TDF Stage 17 *spoiler*
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"The pair of them could have been lost in the emotion that they've come through the final mountain stage on top ..."
This.
Sounds and looks to me like Froome was getting quite excitable and Wiggo was getting quite emotional. But that doesn't fit the cold Sky/British stereotype.0 -
Can someone just confirm Rick just described his dad as sexy?Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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GeorgeShaw wrote:
Sounds and looks to me like Froome was getting quite excitable and Wiggo was getting quite emotional. But that doesn't fit the cold Sky/British stereotype.
Does Froome actually live in the UK?Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Well that was a complete insult to competition. Abolsutely disgusting affair really and completely tarnished the victory for Wiggins.
For all of you who can't recognize how much better Froome has been than Wiggins Froome has expended 15% more energy the entire race while Wiggins has wheel sucked. Think about that for a second. 15%
I'm all for team tactics but today's display completely undermines the purpose of competition as a whole. Nobody is arguing that you don't need teammates and sometimes teammates need to sacrifice but frankly Sky deserves a repeat of what happened in the Vuelta for their shameful display even though it's not going to happen.
It's almost got me rooting for Wiggins to have a mechanical and/or flat on the ITT, and that is a dispicable sentiment.0 -
iainf72 wrote:
Does Froome actually live in the UK?
Monte Carlo I think.0 -
On the contrary, that's what they did: cool professionalism with no fuss or crisis – and people are moaning as a result.Rick Chasey wrote:This was their chance to come over all cool and continental. Brits showing the guys back at home how it should be done.0 -
PuttyKnees wrote:iainf72 wrote:
Does Froome actually live in the UK?
Monte Carlo I think.
And SA in off season?Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
iainf72 wrote:Can someone just confirm Rick just described his dad as sexy?
I thought I was the only one who noticed!0 -
iainf72 wrote:Can someone just confirm Rick just described his dad as sexy?
I'm afraid he did. :oops:Turfle wrote:Liquigas hit the front today: oh my god this is exciting. why didn't they do it earlier?
Sky hit the front: god this is tedious.
They did?
I thought my tv had got stuck in slow motion and the colour contrast had broken. :P"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
LesDiablesRouges wrote:For all of you who can't recognize how much better Froome has been than Wiggins Froome has expended 15% more energy the entire race while Wiggins has wheel sucked. Think about that for a second. 15%
The entire race? No. None of the flat stages. Not the prologue or the time trial. Not 95% of any of the mountain stages either. He's done more time on the front than Wiggins, yes, but this has amounted to a few minutes on the final climb once Porte / Rogers / EBH had been used up. And even then he has looked like he was suffering on the back a few times and left Wiggins to go to the front.0 -
LesDiablesRouges wrote:Well that was a complete insult to competition. Abolsutely disgusting affair really and completely tarnished the victory for Wiggins.
For all of you who can't recognize how much better Froome has been than Wiggins Froome has expended 15% more energy the entire race while Wiggins has wheel sucked. Think about that for a second. 15%
I'm all for team tactics but today's display completely undermines the purpose of competition as a whole. Nobody is arguing that you don't need teammates and sometimes teammates need to sacrifice but frankly Sky deserves a repeat of what happened in the Vuelta for their shameful display even though it's not going to happen.
It's almost got me rooting for Wiggins to have a mechanical and/or flat on the ITT, and that is a dispicable sentiment.
ODFO of course hell expend more energy than Wiggins- hes a domestique expending energy to save the leader from doing so. THATS HIS JOB!
some clueless fuppwits on this thread :roll:'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
Does Froome wipe Wiggins' bum as well?
For a bit, it was like Hanz and Franz -- looking back at one another: "Do you still love me Frank?" "Yes, I do Andy."
This tour can't end quick enough.0 -
iainf72 wrote:Can someone just confirm Rick just described his dad as sexy?
In combination with yesterdays revelation the he's 'loving the sperm', one's mind can only boggle at the depravity of Sunday lunches round at chez Chasey's
Think he's right about Sky/Froome/Wiggo though.0 -
Sky are here to do one thing and that is to win the race. They have a team built around a specifc challenger and he's been there lead rider at every single point in the race. All these folks that are saying Froome should be racing Wiggins are living in cloud cuckoo land, as doing it would significantly risk the overall win and they'd be mad to do that. Especially mad when their team leader is already 2 minutes up.
Yes Froome has looked fresher and faster a couple of times and (presumably because he's a bit of a pr1ck) has chosen those times to make a silly point about it. There have also been times when Wiggins has clearly been fresher but he's made no attempt to demonstrate the fact. He was also very signficantly faster in both time trials and there is absolutely no doubt by a bigger margin than the odd few seconds Froome maybe could have gained in a stage or two.
I think Froome is a great rider but I've had a lot more respect for him if he'd stick to doing his job (as Cavendish is doing) and stop trying to tell the world how wonderful he occasionally is. There is no mistaking the fact he's over two minutes down and, given how badly he was beaten by Wiggins in the last time trial, I can't see any chance that he'd have made that time back plus say another minute or so.
Couldn't agree more.0 -
Also, did noone else notice Wiggins and Froome riding side by side talking a few km before the 'incident'? Seemed to me they were discussing something and BOTH smiling. I thought at that point Wiggo had maybe said froome should go for the stage but since froome didnt, i reckon they were both just happy that they'd pretty much completed the tour in 1st and 2nd place.
People making more drama than necessary, I think.
Also, if you refer to cycling as an individual sport you get shot down (and perhaps rightly so). It seems now when someone acts as a team, it's ALSO wrong. I'd be interested to see some of the people here having a shot at sitting in the team car and see what decisions they'd make.0 -
carrock wrote:
I have just tweeted michelle cound to make that point that the world champion manages to be a water carrier without having a hissy fit
stupid cow needs to get over herself
Did you have a go at Peta Todd a few days ago when she was bitching that Sky didn't help Cavendish get a sprint?
Or was that somehow differentFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
That'll be the rocking chair surrounded by stupendous piles of Sky cash. 8)TheBigBean wrote:There may always be next year for Froome, but who knows he may get shot by his brother-in-law when out hunting, a new young superstar such as Pinot or Van Garderen may get it together, or the old stars like Contador and Schleck may come back. One thing is for sure though, when he sits back in his rocking chair he will wonder what would have happened if he had competed properly in this year's tour, and he'll be just like all those before him: Lemond, Indurain etc.0 -
Evans lost another 2 minutes, but actually moves up to 6th (and Tejay to 5th) as others above him lost more0
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I'm with Rick.
Sky = Meh, And Jim, the problem with the Tour being over is that we are now going to have to suffer the idocy of non-cycling related news and 'new cycling fans' who are sure to go on a month long Wiggins overkill drive without all the facts or any general knowledge and drive me to possible suicide with idiotic comments and an influx of twonks on my commute who now, because a skinny british bloke won a bike race, find the need to buy a bike and ride around like morons pretending they are the next big thing...
I'm not bitter or nuffink though.
And yes, Shoot me for being not very patriotic or a Wiggins fan, because its obviously a crime. He's british so i have to like him, even if he beat pensioners to death with slabs i'd still have to like him like I have to like that Andy Murray tit etc etc, doesn't matter that he has the personality or style of a twig.
I appreciate Wiggins victory, but i'm probably not going to break down in tears about it.0 -
fast as fupp wrote:LesDiablesRouges wrote:Well that was a complete insult to competition. Abolsutely disgusting affair really and completely tarnished the victory for Wiggins.
For all of you who can't recognize how much better Froome has been than Wiggins Froome has expended 15% more energy the entire race while Wiggins has wheel sucked. Think about that for a second. 15%
I'm all for team tactics but today's display completely undermines the purpose of competition as a whole. Nobody is arguing that you don't need teammates and sometimes teammates need to sacrifice but frankly Sky deserves a repeat of what happened in the Vuelta for their shameful display even though it's not going to happen.
It's almost got me rooting for Wiggins to have a mechanical and/or flat on the ITT, and that is a dispicable sentiment.
ODFO of course hell expend more energy than Wiggins- hes a domestique expending energy to save the leader from doing so. THATS HIS JOB!
some clueless fuppwits on this thread :roll:
You've completely lost the plot. The point that in spite of expending the extra enegy pulling Wiggins up the mountains he's still been able to have opportunities to take time of out of Wiggins. So by logical extension ... oh wait nevermind ...logic seems to be lost on you ...
It's amazing how people just don't understand the sport ...0 -
Elitist bollocks I'm afraid. It's a shame the rest of the nation aren't worthy of you :roll:LeicesterLad wrote:I'm with Rick.
Sky = Meh, And Jim, the problem with the Tour being over is that we are now going to have to suffer the idocy of non-cycling related news and 'new cycling fans' who are sure to go on a month long Wiggins overkill drive without all the facts or any general knowledge and drive me to possible suicide with idiotic comments and an influx of twonks on my commute who now, because a skinny british bloke won a bike race, find the need to buy a bike and ride around like morons pretending they are the next big thing...
I'm not bitter or nuffink though.
And yes, Shoot me for being not very patriotic or a Wiggins fan, because its obviously a crime. He's british so i have to like him, even if he beat pensioners to death with slabs i'd still have to like him like I have to like that Andy Murray tit etc etc, doesn't matter that he has the personality or style of a twig.
I appreciate Wiggins victory, but i'm probably not going to break down in tears about it.
If this victory gets more people out on their bikes and interested in the sport how can that possibly be a bad thing?0 -
LesDiablesRouges wrote:fast as fupp wrote:LesDiablesRouges wrote:Well that was a complete insult to competition. Abolsutely disgusting affair really and completely tarnished the victory for Wiggins.
For all of you who can't recognize how much better Froome has been than Wiggins Froome has expended 15% more energy the entire race while Wiggins has wheel sucked. Think about that for a second. 15%
I'm all for team tactics but today's display completely undermines the purpose of competition as a whole. Nobody is arguing that you don't need teammates and sometimes teammates need to sacrifice but frankly Sky deserves a repeat of what happened in the Vuelta for their shameful display even though it's not going to happen.
It's almost got me rooting for Wiggins to have a mechanical and/or flat on the ITT, and that is a dispicable sentiment.
ODFO of course hell expend more energy than Wiggins- hes a domestique expending energy to save the leader from doing so. THATS HIS JOB!
some clueless fuppwits on this thread :roll:
You've completely lost the plot. The point that in spite of expending the extra enegy pulling Wiggins up the mountains he's still been able to have opportunities to take time of out of Wiggins. So by logical extension ... oh wait nevermind ...logic seems to be lost on you ...
It's amazing how people just don't understand the sport ...
meet
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we really are all a bunch of miserable gits aren't we...
If there is anything to learn from this it seems to be that most of us wish that there was no such thing as le Tour or any cycle sport whatsoever, because its never good enough.0 -
You either clearly know nothing about stage racing and riders or are a complete troll.kanto wrote:Gazzetta67 wrote:Roll on the Vuelta at least we will see froome being "Allowed" to show he's the strongest
I think it is clear for everyone to see that Wiggins doesn't really deserve this TDF as Froome has been the strongest rider, and Wiggins couldn't take much time out of Froome during the TT. Team Sky are an embarrassment to the sport, not allowing Froome to attack when Wiggins was home and dry. Brailsford and Co are like those nodding Churchill dogs you see in the back of cars.0 -
This thread is full of so much nonsense I might just keep adding ludicrous opinions to it...
Tom Boonen would never have won Paris-Roubaix if it had a PROPER mountain top finish.0 -
nweststeyn wrote:This thread is full of so much nonsense I might just keep adding ludicrous opinions to it...
Tom Boonen would never have won Paris-Roubaix if it had a PROPER mountain top finish.
Strange opinions are just a symptom of people wanting it to be good. It wasn't a great race, it was a bit woeful, but the bad races make us appreciate the good races even more.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Slim Boy Fat wrote:
Elitist bollocks I'm afraid. It's a shame the rest of the nation aren't worthy of you :roll:LeicesterLad wrote:I'm with Rick.
Sky = Meh, And Jim, the problem with the Tour being over is that we are now going to have to suffer the idocy of non-cycling related news and 'new cycling fans' who are sure to go on a month long Wiggins overkill drive without all the facts or any general knowledge and drive me to possible suicide with idiotic comments and an influx of twonks on my commute who now, because a skinny british bloke won a bike race, find the need to buy a bike and ride around like morons pretending they are the next big thing...
I'm not bitter or nuffink though.
And yes, Shoot me for being not very patriotic or a Wiggins fan, because its obviously a crime. He's british so i have to like him, even if he beat pensioners to death with slabs i'd still have to like him like I have to like that Andy Murray tit etc etc, doesn't matter that he has the personality or style of a twig.
I appreciate Wiggins victory, but i'm probably not going to break down in tears about it.
If this victory gets more people out on their bikes and interested in the sport how can that possibly be a bad thing?
I'm not on about the people who take it up with a genuine interest, i'm talking about the Fad people who will buy a bike, ride it for a month because its 'cool' and then shove it to the back of the garage. And the people who will now be 'knowledgable' and no everything about everything to do with cycling for the next month or so..
Like I said, I am bitter. I'm easily made jealous, cycling is my thing, nobody else is allowed to partake in it, ok!0 -
We all started out knowing nothing about the things that interest us nowLeicesterLad wrote:Slim Boy Fat wrote:
Elitist bollocks I'm afraid. It's a shame the rest of the nation aren't worthy of you :roll:LeicesterLad wrote:I'm with Rick.
Sky = Meh, And Jim, the problem with the Tour being over is that we are now going to have to suffer the idocy of non-cycling related news and 'new cycling fans' who are sure to go on a month long Wiggins overkill drive without all the facts or any general knowledge and drive me to possible suicide with idiotic comments and an influx of twonks on my commute who now, because a skinny british bloke won a bike race, find the need to buy a bike and ride around like morons pretending they are the next big thing...
I'm not bitter or nuffink though.
And yes, Shoot me for being not very patriotic or a Wiggins fan, because its obviously a crime. He's british so i have to like him, even if he beat pensioners to death with slabs i'd still have to like him like I have to like that Andy Murray tit etc etc, doesn't matter that he has the personality or style of a twig.
I appreciate Wiggins victory, but i'm probably not going to break down in tears about it.
If this victory gets more people out on their bikes and interested in the sport how can that possibly be a bad thing?
I'm not on about the people who take it up with a genuine interest, i'm talking about the Fad people who will buy a bike, ride it for a month because its 'cool' and then shove it to the back of the garage. And the people who will now be 'knowledgable' and no everything about everything to do with cycling for the next month or so..
Like I said, I am bitter. I'm easily made jealous, cycling is my thing, nobody else is allowed to partake in it, ok!
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