Rider other side of road....look over........NO REACTION..!!
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nathancom wrote:
Your life must truly be a see-saw of emotions - anguish when you are ignored time and again and then, just when you plan never to wave again, a kindred spirit responds to your welcome and you are strengthened to continue along the road.Rolf F wrote:I wave to everyone on a bike when I'm on my bike. But then again, when I'm walking I also wave and say hello to every other pedestrian I see (this is quite knackering in central Leeds!) - sometimes they ignore me though which I think is terribly rude.
It is - I never know if I should be firing off party poppers or snivelling into a Kleenex. I'm an emotional wreck!
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Brucie, I bought you this chamomile tea, I think it will calm you downBruceG wrote:Sunderland Supporter wrote:shamrock134 wrote:Because it isnt an issue its just another of your nonsensical useless posted for the sake for posting threads.
Wave at others if you want, but if they dont wave back, guess what IT DOESNT MATTER, and it surely doesnt deserve yet another thread on the damn subject!Unashamed to admit Ive zero time for Tory , Toff, In-bred , ex Public Schoolboys who are flushing our country down the crapper.0 -
Because it isnt an issue its just another of your nonsensical useless posted for the sake for posting threads.BruceG wrote:Sunderland Supporter wrote:shamrock134 wrote:What about moving into the centre of the road for a high-five?
By the way, ignorant doesn't mean what you think it does.
why do so many BR threads get sidetracked by wise guys, why cant we just discuss an issue here ?......any issue about anything whatsoever without the usual quota of smart@rses looking for a soapbox to stand on :roll: :roll:
Wave at others if you want, but if they dont wave back, guess what IT DOESNT MATTER, and it surely doesnt deserve yet another thread on the damn subject
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Some people wave, some people don't. It's not rude, it's not ignorant, it's just the way some people are. Deal with it.
I nod or raise a couple of fingers to acknowledge most cyclists (unless I'm chewing the front wheel on a climb), but really don't give a sh*t if they return the gesture.
Life's too short, just enjoy your ride.Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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Just a minute....could he see you from the otherside of the Duel Carraigeway :?:0
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Wrong moron.0
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Unashamed to admit Ive zero time for Tory , Toff, In-bred , ex Public Schoolboys who are flushing our country down the crapper.0
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springtide9 wrote:He probably had a better bike than you, so you were not someone he wanted to aspire too 8)
that type of rider is what is commonly perceived as "the club dick"
stands out a mile ,usually in a self grandiose, small self imposed holder of elite status. when you wade through all the bumph...........he /they are the guys nobody could be @rsed with. aspire to ?..........nah, nobody could be bothered, we just like to talk to people,not require that they are in awe of us and there is a reason they hang together in small numbers.Unashamed to admit Ive zero time for Tory , Toff, In-bred , ex Public Schoolboys who are flushing our country down the crapper.0 -
Sunderland Supporter wrote:
that type of rider is what is commonly perceived as "the club dick"
stands out a mile ,usually in a self grandiose, small self imposed holder of elite status. when you wade through all the bumph...........he /they are the guys nobody could be @rsed with. aspire to ?..........nah, nobody could be bothered, we just like to talk to people,not require that they are in awe of us and there is a reason they hang together in small numbers.
Someone seems to have a cross to bear :roll:0 -
This forum is a curious place. On the one hand there are people here or are very helpful and knowledgable and generous with their help and the time they take to write replies, and on the other hand there are folk who post who just downright unpleasant. The OP' original post was a fairly innocent question or observation that may or may not be of some interest to other readers of a public forum, but for some reason one or two folk have found the need to make remarks that are just rude and discourteous. I really don't understand why.
If the OP's post is irrelevant, it does not really matter, just ignore it if it irks you so, or if you feel,the need to comment about it do it without being rude, and don't rise to the bait if someone is rude back it's pointless and waste of time.
If no one posted on forums about subjects which interest them or others the forums would just die.
Vive et sine vivere.Trek Madone 3.5
Whyte Coniston
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p9uma wrote:This forum is a curious place. On the one hand there are people here or are very helpful and knowledgable and generous with their help and the time they take to write replies, and on the other hand there are folk who post who just downright unpleasant. The OP' original post was a fairly innocent question or observation that may or may not be of some interest to other readers of a public forum, but for some reason one or two folk have found the need to make remarks that are just rude and discourteous. I really don't understand why.
If the OP's post is irrelevant, it does not really matter, just ignore it if it irks you so, or if you feel,the need to comment about it do it without being rude, and don't rise to the bait if someone is rude back it's pointless and waste of time.
If no one posted on forums about subjects which interest them or others the forums would just die.
Vive et sine vivere.
So are you saying that probably you think he/she didn't have a better bike???Simon0 -
I was driving my car the other day and I decided to wave at the guy in the car coming the other way. He didn't wave back and Now I'm broken hearted about the whole thing I might never drive a car again............
GET A LIFE.The only disability in life is a poor attitude.0 -
I'm a casual nod type of guy and maybe a lift of my hand if I can see they have acknowledged me.
If you want strangers to acknowledge you get a dog. Where I walk mine all the dog walkers say hello to each other. There's plenty of people I have no idea of their names but know what their dog is called, or if it's aggressive or friendly.0 -
Simple answer: Don't wave. B******s to 'em. Society isn't what it used to be Ghost Race 5000 (2011) Shimano 105 Black
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p9uma wrote:This forum is a curious place. On the one hand there are people here or are very helpful and knowledgable and generous with their help and the time they take to write replies, and on the other hand there are folk who post who just downright unpleasant. The OP' original post was a fairly innocent question or observation that may or may not be of some interest to other readers of a public forum, but for some reason one or two folk have found the need to make remarks that are just rude and discourteous. I really don't understand why.
If the OP's post is irrelevant, it does not really matter, just ignore it if it irks you so, or if you feel,the need to comment about it do it without being rude, and don't rise to the bait if someone is rude back it's pointless and waste of time.
If no one posted on forums about subjects which interest them or others the forums would just die.
Vive et sine vivere.
Well said, p9uma :!: Indeed, there are some very pleasant/helpful folks...and some complete w*****s Ghost Race 5000 (2011) Shimano 105 Black
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That's pretty funny.Sunderland Supporter wrote:
Have a look at the captions, the last one sums it up.
For what it's worth, I always wave or nod and in general it is returned. In rural Australia where I've lived and ridden for years it was the done for everybody, car, truck, bicycle, anything on the road to give a wave in passing. In SE England, where I live now, things are far less folksy but among cyclists at least waving and acknowledging each other's presence on the road is pretty common.0 -
p9uma wrote:This forum is a curious place. On the one hand there are people here or are very helpful and knowledgable and generous with their help and the time they take to write replies, and on the other hand there are folk who post who just downright unpleasant. The OP' original post was a fairly innocent question or observation that may or may not be of some interest to other readers of a public forum, but for some reason one or two folk have found the need to make remarks that are just rude and discourteous. I really don't understand why.
If the OP's post is irrelevant, it does not really matter, just ignore it if it irks you so, or if you feel,the need to comment about it do it without being rude, and don't rise to the bait if someone is rude back it's pointless and waste of time.
If no one posted on forums about subjects which interest them or others the forums would just die.
Vive et sine vivere.
Totally agree0 -
I don't know where this polarized world is that you both perceive. we are an homogeneous group but with a wide range of ideas, views and experiences and it's through sharing and questioning them that we learn and grow.migrantwing wrote:p9uma wrote:This forum is a curious place. On the one hand there are people here or are very helpful and knowledgable and generous with their help and the time they take to write replies, and on the other hand there are folk who post who just downright unpleasant. The OP' original post was a fairly innocent question or observation that may or may not be of some interest to other readers of a public forum, but for some reason one or two folk have found the need to make remarks that are just rude and discourteous. I really don't understand why.
If the OP's post is irrelevant, it does not really matter, just ignore it if it irks you so, or if you feel,the need to comment about it do it without being rude, and don't rise to the bait if someone is rude back it's pointless and waste of time.
If no one posted on forums about subjects which interest them or others the forums would just die.
Vive et sine vivere.
Well said, p9uma :!: Indeed, there are some very pleasant/helpful folks...and some complete w*****s
The OP' original post would have been a fairly innocent question or observation had they said, "I wave at people but they don't always wave back. Why is this and what do you do?". Unfortunately, the OP didn't do this but painted themselves as the victim of an injustice by someone who wasn't party to their game and sought to determine the rights and wrongs of the situation and of society as a whole in which the OP's view are correct.
The OP's post wasn't irrelevant just ill-considered and the homogeneous group responded to that. There's nothing wrong with people's freedom of expression, either within society or the forum, as long as others have the freedom to respond.0 -
Completely with you there. Some people just seem to search for excuses to be unpleasant. You would think they had been personally berated by the OP for not waving at him!p9uma wrote:This forum is a curious place. On the one hand there are people here or are very helpful and knowledgable and generous with their help and the time they take to write replies, and on the other hand there are folk who post who just downright unpleasant. The OP' original post was a fairly innocent question or observation that may or may not be of some interest to other readers of a public forum, but for some reason one or two folk have found the need to make remarks that are just rude and discourteous. I really don't understand why.
If the OP's post is irrelevant, it does not really matter, just ignore it if it irks you so, or if you feel,the need to comment about it do it without being rude, and don't rise to the bait if someone is rude back it's pointless and waste of time.
If no one posted on forums about subjects which interest them or others the forums would just die.
Vive et sine vivere.
There's a very important issue being ignored here though, and that's how common other road cyclists are in the particular area / time you ride. To see the overwhelming significance of this you just need to imagine both extremes. Imagine if you had a retro fetish and rode a penny farthing on a daily basis, and one day on a country road in the middle of nowhere you saw someone else riding towards you also on a penny farthing, and this was the first time in 10 years of riding this had ever happened. If you didn't at least wave to the other bloke in that situation there would really be something wrong with you by any reasonable standards of normal human sociability, and I would maintain that he would be quite within his rights to consider you a miserable tosser. But now imagine that you are just riding your commuter bike to work in Amsterdam, and there are other cyclists passing every 2 or 3 seconds or so. If you started waving to each and every one of them you would quite rightly appear to be a few marbles short of a picnic.
The debate here entirely hinges around the fact that encountering other cyclists is much more common in some areas than in others, and also that different people have different thresholds when it comes to considering how rare an encounter has to be before it warrants a comradely wave.
Personally I try to proactively wave whenever the density of wavees means that I don't need to do so any more often than about once every 15 minutes on average. What gets me is not the people who don't wave back (they must just have a different threshold, or maybe they waved and I didn't notice) but the ones who stare pointedly at you and/or your bike without acknowledging you. That's just a bit weird I think.0 -
BillyMansell wrote:
I don't know where this polarized world is that you both perceive. we are an homogeneous group but with a wide range of ideas, views and experiences and it's through sharing and questioning them that we learn and grow.migrantwing wrote:p9uma wrote:This forum is a curious place. On the one hand there are people here or are very helpful and knowledgable and generous with their help and the time they take to write replies, and on the other hand there are folk who post who just downright unpleasant. The OP' original post was a fairly innocent question or observation that may or may not be of some interest to other readers of a public forum, but for some reason one or two folk have found the need to make remarks that are just rude and discourteous. I really don't understand why.
If the OP's post is irrelevant, it does not really matter, just ignore it if it irks you so, or if you feel,the need to comment about it do it without being rude, and don't rise to the bait if someone is rude back it's pointless and waste of time.
If no one posted on forums about subjects which interest them or others the forums would just die.
Vive et sine vivere.
Well said, p9uma :!: Indeed, there are some very pleasant/helpful folks...and some complete w*****s
The OP' original post would have been a fairly innocent question or observation had they said, "I wave at people but they don't always wave back. Why is this and what do you do?". Unfortunately, the OP didn't do this but painted themselves as the victim of an injustice by someone who wasn't party to their game and sought to determine the rights and wrongs of the situation and of society as a whole in which the OP's view are correct.
The OP's post wasn't irrelevant just ill-considered and the homogeneous group responded to that. There's nothing wrong with people's freedom of expression, either within society or the forum, as long as others have the freedom to respond.
I agree with you, and that I think was part of my point although I might not have expressed it properly. What my main point is though, that if one feels the need to express a view, which is what one is entitled to do, and is the whole point of forums, can it not be done in a civil manner, without resorting to insults, foul language and plain childish rudeness. When I joined this forum I thought at first it was friendly community sort of forum, all cyclist together one for all and all that, and actually mostly it is, but all to often someone sometimes feels the need to be unpleasant. Perhaps they think they are being amusing, I don't know.
At the risk sounding naive, which I am not, a little less unpleasantness would probably go a long way, after all cycling, discussing cycling, reading about cycling for most here is a fun and exciting hobby to be enjoyed, folk come here to informed, entertained and perhaps diverted from other woes, there is no need to make visits to websites disagreeable.
I occasionally look at how many people read some of these threads, and in some cases it's many hundreds, and in almost all of them it's only a few folk that post comments. I wonder if it's because the readers or lurkers feel uncomfortable about posting in case someone takes exception to their comment and may get flamed.
Is it that difficult to be nice? A question which is relevant to the OP. A little wave, not or gesture in greeting to a fellow cyclists is a nice thing to do, it's not an issue if they don't respond in kind, but it would be nice to be acknowledged with a frendly smile or nod. I mean how difficult can it be just to say hello.Trek Madone 3.5
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The waving thing is as much a cultural/location specific thing as it is anything else.
Over in Cambridgeshire, people tend to wave since there aren't many proper roadies.
If I started waving in London every time I saw a roadie I'd never have my hand on the bars.
Now when I got back to Cambridge I don't wave some I'm used to London now - another roadie is no longer a novelty.
If a stranger doesn't wave back it's not because the stranger has an opinion of you either way. The stranger has just failed to engage in a wave. That's it! So don't take offence!0 -
For those who are unaware. SunderlandSupporter has posted several topics of this ilk, asked for advice or comments, then berated people who spent the time to answer him (myself included). Seemingly just because we didn't agree with his views. He comes out with ridiculous figures for his riding stats as if trying to impress.
This is where some of the 'negative' comments are coming from, he asks for advice/comments, then either ignores it completely and asks the same question on another part of the site, or gets upset and tells people they are less than helpful or are wrong.
He brings a lot of the negativity on himself.
Saying that, i started reading this post and was going to comment on my own observations, i.e. some do and some don't. it slightly annoys me when they don't.--
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springtide9 wrote:p9uma wrote:So are you saying that probably you think he/she didn't have a better bike???
one -upmanship obviously pays a very critical role in your life, if I buy a tonka toy car,you are quickly out buying ferrari 250 gto from nick mason of pink floyd just so as you can stand beside it and look smug with an aura of superiority. read what I said about club dicks.Unashamed to admit Ive zero time for Tory , Toff, In-bred , ex Public Schoolboys who are flushing our country down the crapper.0
