Ronde van Vlaanderen ***SPOILER***
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Rick Chasey wrote:Could he have gone with the final trio on the final Kwaremont even if he hadn't done so much work?
Doubt it.
I think he could have, but he probably would have been wasted like Ballan. But there you go, that's racing for you. Like Sagan, I think he'll win this race at some point. Are these two going to become Boonen's main rivals in the next few years?0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Could he have gone with the final trio on the final Kwaremont even if he hadn't done so much work?
Doubt it.
I think he could have, but he probably would have been wasted like Ballan. But there you go, that's racing for you. Like Sagan, I think he'll win this race at some point. Are these two going to become Boonen's main rivals in the next few years?
That Swiss chap and that other Belgian chap might be more pressing rivals
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They are certainly the new generation. Sepp looks like he's going to be the new Hoste.0 -
Did Lastras break the record for number of different bike components used in a single day's racing?0
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Rick Chasey wrote:They are certainly the new generation. Sepp looks like he's going to be the new Hoste.
No, I think he might win something!0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:They are certainly the new generation. Sepp looks like he's going to be the new Hoste.
No, I think he might win something!
And he doesn't look like he's been hit with a shovel."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:They are certainly the new generation. Sepp looks like he's going to be the new Hoste.
No, I think he might win something!
And he doesn't look like he's been hit with a shovel.
He's hardly a looker...
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It's all relative. But I give you
"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:It's all relative. But I give you
Isn't that "Trigger" from "Only Fools and Horses"
"I've had the same bike for 20 years....."'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
Did anyone notice the new prototype Pinarello Flecha was using?
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greasedscotsman wrote:Did anyone notice the new prototype Pinarello Flecha was using?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-o ... tos/215520
That's actually the kit the purist 'it wasn't like that in the olden days' wanted for Chavanel.0 -
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disgruntledgoat wrote:
Who is that guy? I saw him interviewed in the 'Road to Roubaix' documentary.0 -
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Rick Chasey wrote:So Canc will be back on the turbo by Tuesday.
Pro Cyclists are so hard it's silly.
I did the Kent Killer a month ago, took the Monday off work and spent it hobbling around the house after sympathy from my wife 0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Leif Hoste.
Thanks Rick.0 -
Comments like this anger me:
On Pazzato“Today Pippo was the strongest,” Scinto told Cyclingnews, his voice raw. “Chapeau to QuickStep, which is a great team, a great équipe, with some big riders and a big champion like Boonen, but today the strongest rider at Flanders was Pippo. If it was a boxing ring, he would have won on points.”
No. If Pippo was the strongest (mentally, physically, tactically), he would have won.0 -
LeicesterLad wrote:Comments like this anger me:
On Pazzato“Today Pippo was the strongest,” Scinto told Cyclingnews, his voice raw. “Chapeau to QuickStep, which is a great team, a great équipe, with some big riders and a big champion like Boonen, but today the strongest rider at Flanders was Pippo. If it was a boxing ring, he would have won on points.”
No. If Pippo was the strongest (mentally, physically, tactically), he would have won.
ah, what they mean is the best legs.
Which is true.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:LeicesterLad wrote:Comments like this anger me:
On Pazzato“Today Pippo was the strongest,” Scinto told Cyclingnews, his voice raw. “Chapeau to QuickStep, which is a great team, a great équipe, with some big riders and a big champion like Boonen, but today the strongest rider at Flanders was Pippo. If it was a boxing ring, he would have won on points.”
No. If Pippo was the strongest (mentally, physically, tactically), he would have won.
ah, what they mean is the best legs.
Which is true.
Why didn't he at least have a go at breaking Boonen then?0 -
Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:LeicesterLad wrote:Comments like this anger me:
On Pazzato“Today Pippo was the strongest,” Scinto told Cyclingnews, his voice raw. “Chapeau to QuickStep, which is a great team, a great équipe, with some big riders and a big champion like Boonen, but today the strongest rider at Flanders was Pippo. If it was a boxing ring, he would have won on points.”
No. If Pippo was the strongest (mentally, physically, tactically), he would have won.
ah, what they mean is the best legs.
Which is true.
Why didn't he at least have a go at breaking Boonen then?
But if he had the best legs, he would have beat Boonen in the sprint no?0 -
LeicesterLad wrote:Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:LeicesterLad wrote:Comments like this anger me:
On Pazzato“Today Pippo was the strongest,” Scinto told Cyclingnews, his voice raw. “Chapeau to QuickStep, which is a great team, a great équipe, with some big riders and a big champion like Boonen, but today the strongest rider at Flanders was Pippo. If it was a boxing ring, he would have won on points.”
No. If Pippo was the strongest (mentally, physically, tactically), he would have won.
ah, what they mean is the best legs.
Which is true.
Why didn't he at least have a go at breaking Boonen then?
But if he had the best legs, he would have beat Boonen in the sprint no?
Nah, Boonen naturally has a faster sprint, better legs or not, and I would suggest Pozzato made a tactical error in a) being third (too much ground to make up in a headwind sprint) and b) going left (into the wind) rather than right.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:LeicesterLad wrote:Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:LeicesterLad wrote:Comments like this anger me:
On Pazzato“Today Pippo was the strongest,” Scinto told Cyclingnews, his voice raw. “Chapeau to QuickStep, which is a great team, a great équipe, with some big riders and a big champion like Boonen, but today the strongest rider at Flanders was Pippo. If it was a boxing ring, he would have won on points.”
No. If Pippo was the strongest (mentally, physically, tactically), he would have won.
ah, what they mean is the best legs.
Which is true.
Why didn't he at least have a go at breaking Boonen then?
But if he had the best legs, he would have beat Boonen in the sprint no?
Nah, Boonen naturally has a faster sprint, better legs or not, and I would suggest Pozzato made a tactical error in a) being third (too much ground to make up in a headwind sprint) and b) going left (into the wind) rather than right.
So basically tactically he was very poor so whether he has the legs or not he still lost and his arguement about being the best on the day is invalid. A race is more than Legs, that boy came second because Boonen is a better rider. That's my irritation.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Nah, Boonen naturally has a faster sprint, better legs or not, and I would suggest Pozzato made a tactical error in a) being third (too much ground to make up in a headwind sprint) and b) going left (into the wind) rather than right.
Pozatto's mistake was thinking he could beat Boonen in a sprint. Once they had a minutes lead, he should have started missing turns and then countered Ballan's attack. Not sure he would have won, but reckon he would have had a better chance than taking Boonen on in a sprint.0 -
Take a look at M-SR this year.
Canc was definitely the strongest - the best legs.
He still couldn't win, because of the way the tactics played out.
It's like poker, you may have two aces which is a 'stronger' hand - doesn't mean you'll always win with it.0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Nah, Boonen naturally has a faster sprint, better legs or not, and I would suggest Pozzato made a tactical error in a) being third (too much ground to make up in a headwind sprint) and b) going left (into the wind) rather than right.
Pozatto's mistake was thinking he could beat Boonen in a sprint. Once they had a minutes lead, he should have started missing turns and then countered Ballan's attack. Not sure he would have won, but reckon he would have had a better chance than taking Boonen on in a sprint.
Yup.
You have to wonder how tired he was given he didn't go over the top after Boonen chased Balan down.0 -
But we agree that cycling is a sport where the strongest rider doesn't always win, right? That's why we like it. So it's possible that Pozzato was stronger than Boonen and just played his hand wrong. Personally I was shouting at my telly for Pippo to attack when Ballan made his first effort with 3km to go. He didn't hear me...0
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Mind you, it's easy for all of us to comment, how many times have any of us won the Tour of Flanders.
(The same number as Pozatto...)0 -
afx237vi wrote:Personally I was shouting at my telly for Pippo to attack when Ballan made his first effort with 3km to go. He didn't hear me...
You're too generous.
I think they just don't listen.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Mind you, it's easy for all of us to comment, how many times have any of us won the Tour of Flanders.
(The same number as Pozatto...)
Aye, but how many of us have won MSR?
The same number as Tommeke...
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TailWindHome wrote:afx237vi wrote:Personally I was shouting at my telly for Pippo to attack when Ballan made his first effort with 3km to go. He didn't hear me...
You're too generous.
I think they just don't listen.
True, I was even doing a comedy Italian accent, just so he'd understand me.0
