Cyclists For Right Of Way UK Campaign

CyclingsFROWUK

This is an open community page, feel free to post support and spread the word !!


https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

notsoblue

I will NOT be NOT supporting this campaign.

sketchley

What are you campaigning for exactly as It's not clear from the facebook page?

I hope you are not suggesting that cyclists should always have "right of way" as that doesn't seem right to me.

CyclingsFROWUK

Campaigning to make the UK government aware of how unsafe it is for cyclists to ride on UK roads.

To make UK roads cycle friendly just like mainland Europe has adopted


https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUk

jonny_trousers

Cool. Where can we learn more about your particular campaign?

greg66_tri_v2.0

CyclingsFROWUK wrote:

Campaigning to make the UK government aware of how unsafe it is for cyclists to ride on UK roads.

Is it?

Not finding the bandwagon a little bit squished for space, then?

jzed

Just how unsafe are the roads? Generally I find them pretty safe. A little bit of common sense on the roads and mutual respect is mostly what is needed.

CyclingsFROWUK

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

Cool. Where can we learn more about your particular campaign?

it`s not `my` campaign..it`s for all cyclists to get on board and support !!

https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

bigmat

So is it basically a facebook page supporting The Times' campaign? The title is a bit confusing, and I'm not convinced by what The Times is doing either.

CyclingsFROWUK

BigMat wrote:

So is it basically a facebook page supporting The Times' campaign? The title is a bit confusing, and I'm not convinced by what The Times is doing either.

NO..no..it`s a Facebook page to campaign to make the UK government implement the rule for cyclist to have right of way, like mainland Europe has , making drivers more aware, roads more safer


https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

sketchley

You think cyclist should have right of way? Any exceptions to this? Would you care to expand?

EKE_38BPM

CyclingsFROWUK wrote:

BigMat wrote:

So is it basically a facebook page supporting The Times' campaign? The title is a bit confusing, and I'm not convinced by what The Times is doing either.

NO..NO..it`s a Facebook page to campaign to make the UK government implement the rule for cyclist to have right of way, like mainland Europe has , making drivers more aware, roads more safer


https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

A worthy sentiment, but seeing as the Facebook page was set up less than 24 hours ago, it very much feels like bandwagon jumping. What made you decide to set the page up? The 5 Live phone in show, the Flashride around Parliament Square or the Commons debate? Or is it just a coincidence?

iPete

without reading and with a stonking hangover, I'm guessing he is referring to the liability laws in Europe that came up in yesterdays debate..

sketchley

iPete wrote:

without reading and with a stonking hangover, I'm guessing he is referring to the liability laws in Europe that came up in yesterdays debate..

But "strict liability" and "right of way" are very very different things....

asprilla

Surely liability laws are different from right of way. We have right of way as cyclists in more places than motor vehicles do.

dodgy

Is he talking about Strict Liability?

/shrugs

I actively shrug at anything connected with Facebook, as it's mostly 'tards mouthing off. A bit like me in this post I suppose.

bails87

Possibly mixing up right of way, priority and strict/assumed liability?

EKE_38BPM

The Facebook page is nothing more than links to Youtube videos, The Times' campaign and BBC footage about yesterday's debate.

I think the OP needs to think about what they actually want and then realise that other people are on the case already and just chill out as they are doing a better job of it.

CyclingsFROWUK

Campaigning to make the UK government aware of how unsafe it is for cyclists to ride on UK roads.

To make UK roads cycle friendly just like mainland Europe has adopted



This page is set up to campaign for the UK government to implement Right of way for cyclists in the UK.

An increase in cycling and safe conditions to cycle in could solve a multitude of problems from,
improving public health,
reducing obesity,
reducing congestion on streets,
lightening the burden on public transport,
less wear on roads,
making our streets and cities more pleasant places,
providing independence for children.


https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

fenboy369

dodgy wrote:

I actively shrug at anything connected with Facebook, as it's mostly 'tards mouthing off. A bit like me in this post I suppose.

You owe me a new keyboard! PMSL

sketchley

OK I get what you are saying but "right of way" already has an established meaning in law relating to use of roads. If you are not using it in that context I suggest using something different that more accurately reflect what it is you are trying to say.

asprilla

CyclingsFROWUK wrote:

To make UK roads cycle friendly just like mainland Europe has adopted

I can read this, but I don't understand it.

In some parts of Europe there have been massive investments in infrastructure for cycling. In other parts of Europe there is no such infrastructure but there are different driver attitudes to cycling. In yet more areas of Europe there are laws designed to offer greater protection for cyclists.

As far as I'm aware there isn't an all encompassing infrastructure investment, driver / cyclist education programme and massive alignment of legislation across Europe to bring all EU member states (even though you just refer to mainland Europe) into line.

What are you actually campaigning for?

'What do we want?"
"Dunno!"
"When do we want it?"
"Now!"

greg66_tri_v2.0

CyclingsFROWUK wrote:

Campaigning to make the UK government aware of how unsafe it is for cyclists to ride on UK roads.

To make UK roads cycle friendly just like mainland Europe has adopted



This page is set up to campaign for the UK government to implement Right of way for cyclists in the UK.

An increase in cycling and safe conditions to cycle in could solve a multitude of problems from,
improving public health,
reducing obesity,
reducing congestion on streets,
lightening the burden on public transport,
less wear on roads,
making our streets and cities more pleasant places,
providing independence for children.


https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

You don't seem to be able to articulate what it is you're advocating (specifically, what right of way for cyclists like mainland Europe means). Nor, it seems, from your responses do you understand what you're advocating.

How do you expect to garner support?

(You may not realise it, but the members of this forum have discussed the pros and cons of a range of road and traffic measures to improve cycling in this country. The range of views is generally quite refined and well developed. It's unlikely, I'd suggest, that many people here will be impressed by a Facebook page and a user account less than 24 hours old telling us to support some wholly undefined proposal.)

il_principe

Well putting it on Facebook is a fail. Lots of people aren't part of the Zuckerberg (sic) data theft bandwagon, me for instance, so I'm never even going to read your bumpf.

Srsly, wtf is up with so many organisations limiting promotional stuff to facepalm these days? P1sses me off..

W1

Greg66 wrote:

CyclingsFROWUK wrote:

Campaigning to make the UK government aware of how unsafe it is for cyclists to ride on UK roads.

To make UK roads cycle friendly just like mainland Europe has adopted



This page is set up to campaign for the UK government to implement Right of way for cyclists in the UK.

An increase in cycling and safe conditions to cycle in could solve a multitude of problems from,
improving public health,
reducing obesity,
reducing congestion on streets,
lightening the burden on public transport,
less wear on roads,
making our streets and cities more pleasant places,
providing independence for children.


https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

You don't seem to be able to articulate what it is you're advocating (specifically, what right of way for cyclists like mainland Europe means). Nor, it seems, from your responses do you understand what you're advocating.

How do you expect to garner support?

(You may not realise it, but the members of this forum have discussed the pros and cons of a range of road and traffic measures to improve cycling in this country. The range of views is generally quite refined and well developed. It's unlikely, I'd suggest, that many people here will be impressed by a Facebook page and a user account less than 24 hours old telling us to support some wholly undefined proposal.)

I can't put my finger on what it is, but something of CyclingsFROWUK's style reminds me of another single-agenda poster on this forum.....

jonny_trousers

Facebook campaigns can change the world. Just look at... er.

A noble cause, but the Facebook page is essentially pointless.

CyclingsFROWUK

Compared to cycling on French, Dutch, German roads..cycling on Uk roads is dire, that`s what this campaign is about to get all fellow cyclists to support and change the governments stance on UK cyclists safety

Needs support to make it work , https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUk

bigmat

CyclingsFROWUK wrote:

Compared to cycling on French, Dutch, German roads..cycling on Uk roads is dire, that`s what this campaign is about to get all fellow cyclists to support and change the governments stance on UK cyclists safety

Needs support to make it work , https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUk

You need to be clear about:

a) what you perceive the problem to be;
b) what you propose should be done about it;
c) why signing up to this facebook page will help.

It appears that nobody in this forum has a clue what your position is, save for some vague "lets make it better like in Europe" aspiration (Europe is a big place, by the way - I understand that cycling in, by way of example, Moscow is appalling even by UK comparisons, also cycling between cities in parts of Scandinavia is practically impossible although they have lovely bike paths in town).

I don't personally mean to criticize, but you have a lot of work to do before you have anything even approaching worthwhile. If you properly engage people here you might be able to make some progress (and try and ignore the snipers!)

asprilla

CyclingsFROWUK wrote:

Compared to cycling on French, Dutch, German roads..cycling on Uk roads is dire, that`s what this campaign is about to get all fellow cyclists to support and change the governments stance on UK cyclists safety

Needs support to make it work , https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUk

But what do you want? You have a campaign to make bad things good and wrong things right, perhaps with some extra niceness thrown in.

Oh, and cycling on roads in Germany can be utterly fucking horrible.

CyclingsFROWUK

it`s a Facebook page for ALL cyclists, NOT a company..NOT an individual...

jump on board , make it work !!

https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

asprilla

CyclingsFROWUK wrote:

it`s a Facebook page for ALL cyclists, NOT a company..NOT an individual...

jump on board , make it work !!

https://www.facebook.com/CyclistsForRightOfWayUK

Make what work?

Am I on the end of a line here?