oh no! its the ligget and sherwen show.

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    ^^ I put that down to national pride and hoped I was right but I admit I did mutter "no he's leading him out you"..shall we say..."rotters" as they said that

    Time for Thomas to have his own crack now, he's done enough leading out!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • exlaser
    exlaser Posts: 268
    Monty Zoncolan wrote:
    I've settled into a nice pattern of:

    Eurosport - for the actual racing and more informative commentary; then

    ITV highlights - for the little reportage pieces, and the nostalgia factor

    Thankfully my good lady wife has become converted (although she did it to me with test match cricket).

    that works for me too!
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  • cogidubnus
    cogidubnus Posts: 860
    exlaser wrote:
    Monty Zoncolan wrote:
    I've settled into a nice pattern of:

    Eurosport - for the actual racing and more informative commentary; then

    ITV highlights - for the little reportage pieces, and the nostalgia factor

    Thankfully my good lady wife has become converted (although she did it to me with test match cricket).

    that works for me too!

    And me. I like Maggy and James Richardson but much prefer ITV post race analysis
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Cogidubnus wrote:
    And me. I like Maggy and James Richardson but much prefer ITV post race analysis

    Me too - watch live on Eurosport, then switch over to ITV4 when the stage finishes, and always watch their highlights package.
  • Monty Zoncolan
    Monty Zoncolan Posts: 341
    Eurosport also lacks the UK-centric aspect (for obvious reasons). So to get Wiggo's comments on the day, or to see where Cav is in the green jersey standings, ITV is the place.
  • Deegs
    Deegs Posts: 74
    At least they know who they're looking at. Eurosport were going on and on about someone from HTC I think they said Matt Goss? going for the line for some time yesterday, while incongrously, the camera's beautifully unimpeded view of Cav's face as he overtook everyone and won made it very clear who was actually involved.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    The difference is David Harmon mis-identifies riders occasionally on Eurosport, Phil and Paul occasionally get the right one (I guess if you keep randomly saying names you're bound to be right some of the time).

    I do think recognising riders during the Tour is pretty tough.

    In F1 commentators frequently name the wrong driver during Grand Prix, even though there are only 24 drivers, only two per team, they have distinctly different helmets, clear numbering on their cars and the two cars on each team have a different coloured T-piece on top of the roll over hoop.

    In cycling you have 200-odd riders with no visible numbers from the front or side with each rider wearing an identical kit to 8 others. Frankly it's a minor miracle that they ever correctly identify a rider.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Graeme_S wrote:
    The difference is David Harmon mis-identifies riders occasionally on Eurosport, Phil and Paul occasionally get the right one (I guess if you keep randomly saying names you're bound to be right some of the time).

    I do think recognising riders during the Tour is pretty tough.

    In F1 commentators frequently name the wrong driver during Grand Prix, even though there are only 24 drivers, only two per team, they have distinctly different helmets, clear numbering on their cars and the two cars on each team have a different coloured T-piece on top of the roll over hoop.

    In cycling you have 200-odd riders with no visible numbers from the front or side with each rider wearing an identical kit to 8 others. Frankly it's a minor miracle that they ever correctly identify a rider.

    Sporza rarely have problems...
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Graeme_S wrote:
    The difference is David Harmon mis-identifies riders occasionally on Eurosport, Phil and Paul occasionally get the right one (I guess if you keep randomly saying names you're bound to be right some of the time).

    I do think recognising riders during the Tour is pretty tough.

    In F1 commentators frequently name the wrong driver during Grand Prix, even though there are only 24 drivers, only two per team, they have distinctly different helmets, clear numbering on their cars and the two cars on each team have a different coloured T-piece on top of the roll over hoop.

    In cycling you have 200-odd riders with no visible numbers from the front or side with each rider wearing an identical kit to 8 others. Frankly it's a minor miracle that they ever correctly identify a rider.

    After his stage win, Cav said he had followed Wiggins's wheel in the sprint when it was actually Thomas. If he can't tell the difference between his own friends, what hope have the rest of us got.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    RichN95 wrote:
    After his stage win, Cav said he had followed Wiggins's wheel in the sprint when it was actually Thomas. If he can't tell the difference between his own friends, what hope have the rest of us got.

    I think he might be a bit Wiggins obsessed. The day before that he made a comment about Wiggins having a punt at the win, when it had actually been EBH
  • Slimbods
    Slimbods Posts: 321
    Apparently their monitors are often SD while we're watching in HD lovelyness, might contribute to their difficulties vs what we see.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Slimbods wrote:
    Apparently their monitors are often SD while we're watching in HD lovelyness, might contribute to their difficulties vs what we see.

    I'm watching on the ITV website - it's pretty hard with that. It's a different story at the weekends though
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  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    Blimey Paul is getting all sweaty over HTC on the highlights tonight....
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Today Paul said that the two most common bones for cyclists to break are the clavicle, and a small bone in the hand called the scapula. The scapula is your shoulder blade, so neither small, nor in your hand. Presumably he was thinking of the scaphoid. Duh!
  • ms_tree
    ms_tree Posts: 1,405
    David Harmonious has made me laugh out loud a few times already with his comments. I particularly liked the one - I think from yesterday - about the Europcar rider with the 'elfin ears'. :lol:
    'Google can bring back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one.'
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Think Paul needs a new radio, always seems to be crackling...
  • DF33
    DF33 Posts: 732
    I cant believe they went to the ads with 1km to go on the main climb of the day and things happening.

    Surely they could have waited 2 mins. I could say more but dont want it to be a spoiler for others watching later.
    Peter
  • top_bhoy
    top_bhoy Posts: 1,424
    DF33 wrote:
    I cant believe they went to the ads with 1km to go on the main climb of the day and things happening.

    Surely they could have waited 2 mins. I could say more but dont want it to be a spoiler for others watching later.

    Your not trying to pin this one on the commentators? Damn them :twisted:
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  • DF33
    DF33 Posts: 732
    Top_Bhoy wrote:
    DF33 wrote:
    I cant believe they went to the ads with 1km to go on the main climb of the day and things happening.

    Surely they could have waited 2 mins. I could say more but dont want it to be a spoiler for others watching later.

    Your not trying to pin this one on the commentators? Damn them :twisted:

    No, I know all the commentators are fed a live stream and have to work round it. But its all part of the rich experience of being a customer.
    Bit like slowing the rollercoaster to a crawl on the downhill bit just when you anticipated the good bit.
    Peter
  • plowmar
    plowmar Posts: 1,032
    DF33 wrote:
    I cant believe they went to the ads with 1km to go on the main climb of the day and things happening.

    Surely they could have waited 2 mins. I could say more but dont want it to be a spoiler for others watching later.

    Come on guys, it was obviously the riders fault - sure I heard that they were 11 minutes ahead of schedule, they should have stopped and waited. Adverts come first unless you've taped it and can cut them out.

    This is very difficult to work out as you have to start recording up to 30 mins. before starting to watch and the as you fast fwd. through the verts. then you get to the end in real time. :wink:
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    "The riders completing this stage in an average speed of 38 minutes" - Paul Sherwen.

    What!?
  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    he was constantly referring to "pushbikes" today

    the weapon :evil:
    'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,197
    More of 'Sammy' Sanchez.....anybody else call him that?
    I was waiting for them to call Luis Leon 'Lenny' Sanchez......
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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    I heard Paul say something about "The break away are going ballistic around these corners".

    Bless them.

    I do laugh at their interpretations of why riders are doing certain things as well - they are both going senile.
  • shouldbeinbed
    shouldbeinbed Posts: 2,660
    Paul also seems to have a cheese map of France. Another fromage snippet today in the Massif Central.
  • MaxwellBygraves
    MaxwellBygraves Posts: 1,353
    I love Phil and Paul!
    "That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college! " - Homer
  • Pseudonym
    Pseudonym Posts: 1,032
    is 'Voeckler' really pronounced 'Voyckler' ? I didn't think it was.....but Liggett seems to think so. Sherwen clearly thought otherwise......
  • cogidubnus
    cogidubnus Posts: 860
    Was reading this article when the following caught my eye:

    "Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen’s Tour commentary is in most aspects impeccable: informed, knowledgeable, lyrically rich"

    He's watching a different P & P to me then...
  • Slater
    Slater Posts: 80
    Moomaloid wrote:
    Slater wrote:
    fast as fupp wrote:
    calling leopard ( as in big cat)trek

    LEY-O-PARD trek

    i want to kill tem :evil:

    It's really getting on my nerves too. :evil:

    But thats official pronunciation...

    It's how non English speakers pronounce it. Why should we be forced to pronounce it like them.

    When they say the Tour de France they don't pronounce France like the French do.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Slater wrote:

    It's how non English speakers pronounce it. Why should we be forced to pronounce it like them.

    Because of the infamous press release saying that's how it's pronounced. They're not trying to be euro, they were given guidance on how to say it, and they've chosen to follow that.

    Do you get all moody when people say "Paree - Roubaix"?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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