Tissues at the ready (bike porn inside)
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FTAO Sonic
i will convert you to wagon wheels!
he new Zaskar Carbon 29er, this one’s the second generation even though the first never saw the light of day. The 2011 model that we saw last year never made it to actual production, but this one’s ready to go. The design philosophy was carried over from the 26″ model, but it foregoes the pressed carbon dropouts in favor of new alloy bolt-on vertical dropouts for gears on complete bikes. The frameset will be available with sliding dropouts for singlespeed setups. Frame is monocoque hi-mod Ultra Blend carbon fiber that keeps their trademark Triple Triangle design. GT says the design offers better tire clearance and lateral rigidity, which is why a lot of brands are starting to bring their seatstays to the outside of the seattube.It weighs in at 23lbs 13oz (Large, I think) spec’d with Formula R1 brakes, full XT 2×10 drivetrain, Crank Brothers bar and post, Syncros stem, Rockshox SID 29er fork, DT Swiss M1800 wheelset and Maxxis Aspen tires. They chose the all-mountain wheelset because it has a wider rim and is pretty tough. $4200. Below that, there’s a sub-$3,000 Expert model, but spec isn’t finalized on that one.0 -
All these 29ers look shite.
There's a rather nice looking Trek 29er in Betws y Coed though.0 -
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There's something really horrible about the front end of that GT, it looks like it's got bent forks. And also ****ing stupid wheels obviously.Uncompromising extremist0
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I don't care, it still looks shite.VWsurfbum wrote:yeehaamcgee I posted it purely for Sonic
I think it's probably the puny brake, and the tiny fork.Northwind wrote:There's something really horrible about the front end of that GT, it looks like it's got bent forks. And also ****ing stupid wheels obviously.0 -
I'd agree about the forks, and i also agree about the disc size, hence why i have 203's on mineNorthwind wrote:There's something really horrible about the front end of that GT, it looks like it's got bent forks. And also ****ing stupid wheels obviously.
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Dude, you've got issues.0
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now where's that couch and i'll tell you all about it!yeehaamcgee wrote:Dude, you've got issues.0 -
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yeehaamcgee wrote:Dude, you've got issues.
.............of What 29er magazine by the look of it0 -
It's amazing how massively against things looking slightly different people can be. It's a bike, with 10% bigger wheels. They ride sort of like you'd expect a bike with 10% bigger wheels to ride.
Enjoying mine, certainly wouldn't ditch 26" forever, but it's definitely better in some places.0 -
Most of them still look hideous and wrong, no matter how much you've convinced yourself otherwise.0
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People said exactly the same when full sussers became mainstream. I haven't convinced myself anything, it looks like a bike with fractionally bigger wheels, I can't see anything hugely appealing or ugly to be honest.0
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No, they didn't. You're just making sh*t up.Toasty wrote:People said exactly the same when full sussers became mainstream. I haven't convinced myself anything, it looks like a bike with fractionally bigger wheels, I can't see anything hugely appealing or ugly to be honest.
There are some pretty 29ers, but on the whole, they're as ugly as a dog's rejected breakfast.0 -
yeehaamcgee wrote:
No, they didn't. You're just making sh*t up.Toasty wrote:People said exactly the same when full sussers became mainstream. I haven't convinced myself anything, it looks like a bike with fractionally bigger wheels, I can't see anything hugely appealing or ugly to be honest.
There are some pretty 29ers, but on the whole, they're as ugly as a dog's rejected breakfast.
Of course they did, and they still do?! Aside from designs like the Groundcontrol/LTS that were very bike looking. I used to love the old Trek Y frame
Go look at the Bikeradar post that GT pic is from, these comments are purely on the FS design:Hi,
FS Zaskar is UGLY as feck
Shouldn't even be named like this...
Cheers!The Zasker FS looks a little like the old RTS from years ago
I quite like it!
Not one comment about the 29er, its just a bike with big wheels. You're just getting wound up about absolutely nothing
Girl, that 11-32 cassette of yours, it's so last season!0 -
yeehaamcgee
Totally agree they look sh1te. Saw the women on them at Dalby they looked like children on grownups bikes WRONG0 -
Toasty, that's just the full suss Zaskar. People are hating it because the Zaskar was a design classic.
Different things appeal to different people, but by the advent of full suss, we had far weirder and ugly bikes - elevated chainstays Alpinestars nonsense, for example.
People by and large accepted full suss as the way forward - with the exception of a few ugly designs.
And, that's what's happening here - like I said, there are some lovely looking 29ers, but there are some truly hideous ones too.
(Not that it strikes me that you will ever bother to read a reasoned point)0 -
Toasty, that's just the full suss Zaskar. People are hating it because the Zaskar was a design classic.
Different things appeal to different people, but by the advent of full suss, we had far weirder and ugly bikes - elevated chainstays Alpinestars nonsense, for example.
People by and large accepted full suss as the way forward - with the exception of a few ugly designs.
And, that's what's happening here - like I said, there are some lovely looking 29ers, but there are some truly hideous ones too.
(Not that it strikes me that you will ever bother to read a reasoned point)
Curiously thats exactly my point, I can understand weird bike designs being loved or loathed. I just see 10% bigger wheels being exactly that though, much like I see wider bars just looking like wider bars, or shorter stems look like stems that are shorter.
At 6'6" I probably look more sensible on the 29er, rather than a 26er with it's seatpost in orbit
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Toasty's correct. The idea that someone would take exception to another person's choice of bicycle or car or computer is an interesting cultural phenomenon. I realise that nobody's being serious here, but the point remains.
I guess it's human nature to be afraid of things and people that are different to ourselves. It probably has an important role to play evolutionarily speaking, in that tribal/familial bonding can occur, or somesuch (May be talking out of my @rse, now).
I do understand it, of course, as I feel the same way about washing powder. How can people not realise that Omo is better than Persil??0 -
I'll have to check back. If he has let the tribe down, he'll have to cast out, or killed in some interesting traditional way.0
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tribal/familial bonding can occur
Woah, we've only just met. I'm just saying I don't mind wheels looking bigger :Pyeehaamcgee wrote:
Isn't that exactly what Toasty is doing though?wheezee wrote:Toasty's correct. The idea that someone would take exception to another person's choice of bicycle or car or computer is an interesting cultural phenomenon.
Is it? How so? I'm just saying I've never seen it as a hugely positive or negative aesthetic thing, they just look like bigger wheels.0 -
I don't see it as being aesthetically pleasing at all, you're taking exeption to that. See.0
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Taking exception? This started with:It's amazing how massively against things looking slightly different people can be. It's a bike, with 10% bigger wheels. They ride sort of like you'd expect a bike with 10% bigger wheels to ride.
I just find it odd that it's an aesthetic plus or minus, it's not a radically different design.
Back to the short stem comparison, imagine if I went into a conversation about stem lengths and told them I hated short stems. They looked like someone had been sick on their handlebars, terrible idea, for clowns! I'd seem a bit odd right?
Anyway, this thread is completely vandalised by this rubbish conversation. :P0 -
But that's what they do, these different people. They vandalise our threads. Take our jobs. Steal our women.0
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Right, so you people are now getting quite animated, because someone would dare not like the 29ers posted here?
There's a word for people like you, but it's not family friendly.0
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