Tour De France 2011 - The Commuters Spolier Thread
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JonGinge wrote:Half the peloton outside the time limit... (including Cav et al)
is the time limit full stop or certain limit after 1st place?Le Cannon [98 Cannondale M400] [FCN: 8]
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MonkeyMonster wrote:JonGinge wrote:Half the peloton outside the time limit... (including Cav et al)
is the time limit full stop or certain limit after 1st place?
% of winners time, % varies based on average speed.0 -
Time limit depends on type of stage and the average speed of the stage... = complicated roolzMonkeyMonster wrote:JonGinge wrote:Half the peloton outside the time limit... (including Cav et al)
is the time limit full stop or certain limit after 1st place?0 -
JonGinge wrote:Cav still in but lost 20pts, still 15 ahead of Rojas
Does that liven it back up again? Presumably Rojas wasn't docked...
edit: but IT i mean green jersey compLe Cannon [98 Cannondale M400] [FCN: 8]
The Mad Monkey [2013 Hoy 003] [FCN: 4]0 -
Rojas made the time cut by a couple of minutes. Yeah, if Cav finishes outside cut again (and is reprieved again) then Rojas will have green by 5pts with only the Champs sprint stage left...MonkeyMonster wrote:JonGinge wrote:Cav still in but lost 20pts, still 15 ahead of Rojas
Does that liven it back up again? Presumably Rojas wasn't docked...
edit: but IT i mean green jersey comp0 -
Missed all the live action this afternoon due to a dentist's appointment and having to take the kids swimming. Typical.
Got asked if we wanted to see Ku Fung Panda 2 tomorrow afternoon.
Reply was along the lines of, "It's ADH. NFW."
Don't care how good it is. Just not tomorrow afternoon.FCN 2-4.
"What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
"It stays down, Daddy."
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TailWindHome wrote:The onus is on Bertie to attack, which he will. I think Evans will possibly stick with the Sclecks and let him go rather than risk a complete blow up on the climb and ride steady to minimise time losses believing he has enough in hand to beat Bertie in the Time Trial.
Well I got Evans' tactic right. Looking at the GC I think he is still the favourite and is more than capable of taking a minute out of the Schlecks in the time trial. His nearest TT rival was Contador and I think his race is run.
Andy (or Frank) need to do the same again tomorrow, only better, if they are to win.
1. VOECKLER
2. SCHLECK Andy + 00' 15"
3. SCHLECK Frank + 01' 08"
4. EVANS Cadel + 01' 12"
5. CUNEGO Damiano + 03' 46"
6. BASSO Ivan + 03' 46"
7. CONTADOR Alberto + 04' 44"
8. SANCHEZ Samuel + 05' 20"“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
He may look like a boy with Action Man's head but Cadel Evans is the man!
How he clawed that back from Schleck was amazing. Coupled with the fact that it was probably his herculean effort that clawed back Contador yesterday makes me think that Evans may be the fastest rider (over all) in the peloton, if not in time then actual speed.
Had he have gone with Schleck and then pumped that gear there's a good chance he would have ridden him off the wheel and onto win the stage.Food Chain number = 4
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TailWindHome wrote:TailWindHome wrote:The onus is on Bertie to attack, which he will. I think Evans will possibly stick with the Sclecks and let him go rather than risk a complete blow up on the climb and ride steady to minimise time losses believing he has enough in hand to beat Bertie in the Time Trial.
Well I got Evans' tactic right. Looking at the GC I think he is still the favourite and is more than capable of taking a minute out of the Schlecks in the time trial. His nearest TT rival was Contador and I think his race is run.
Andy (or Frank) need to do the same again tomorrow, only better, if they are to win.
1. VOECKLER
2. SCHLECK Andy + 00' 15"
3. SCHLECK Frank + 01' 08"
4. EVANS Cadel + 01' 12"
5. CUNEGO Damiano + 03' 46"
6. BASSO Ivan + 03' 46"
7. CONTADOR Alberto + 04' 44"
8. SANCHEZ Samuel + 05' 20"
Wasn't it ADH where the Schleckers tag teamed Evans into the ground while Sastre rode off to take the win (of the stage and the tour)? Bad memories for the split chinned chimp...0 -
Greg66 wrote:TailWindHome wrote:TailWindHome wrote:The onus is on Bertie to attack, which he will. I think Evans will possibly stick with the Sclecks and let him go rather than risk a complete blow up on the climb and ride steady to minimise time losses believing he has enough in hand to beat Bertie in the Time Trial.
Well I got Evans' tactic right. Looking at the GC I think he is still the favourite and is more than capable of taking a minute out of the Schlecks in the time trial. His nearest TT rival was Contador and I think his race is run.
Andy (or Frank) need to do the same again tomorrow, only better, if they are to win.
1. VOECKLER
2. SCHLECK Andy + 00' 15"
3. SCHLECK Frank + 01' 08"
4. EVANS Cadel + 01' 12"
5. CUNEGO Damiano + 03' 46"
6. BASSO Ivan + 03' 46"
7. CONTADOR Alberto + 04' 44"
8. SANCHEZ Samuel + 05' 20"
Wasn't it ADH where the Schleckers tag teamed Evans into the ground while Sastre rode off to take the win (of the stage and the tour)? Bad memories for the split chinned chimp...
Yep. 2008. Frank was in yellow and Evans didn't follow Sastre's attack (although I don't know whether the "didn't" was a "couldn't"). IIRC, O'Grady and Cancellara did the same ting there - keep the pace high to the foot of ADH.FCN 2-4.
"What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
"It stays down, Daddy."
"Exactly."0 -
I want Evans to win.
1. VOECKLER
2. SCHLECK Andy + 00' 15"
3. SCHLECK Frank + 01' 08"
4. EVANS Cadel + 01' 12"
5. CUNEGO Damiano + 03' 46"
6. BASSO Ivan + 03' 46"
7. CONTADOR Alberto + 04' 44"
8. SANCHEZ Samuel + 05' 20"
Today could be very interesting
If the Schleck's want to win one or the other is going to have to attack. If we go into the TT with those gaps Evans will win.
I reckon Frank will attack forcing Evans to counter with Andy wheelsucking. If Evans can counter then Andy will attack. (No shock there)
What makes this stage interesting is Cunego, Basso and Contador. These 3 are looking at getting nada from this tour. It's in there interest to work today, either for podium or the stage. Evans could forge an allegiance with either of them.
I think Evans would like to see Contador picking up some time. He would be happy to start the TT with Bertie as his 'minute man'“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Contador's not quite the same without his clenbuterol0
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I'm going for Frank and Andy to attack proper on the last 6km of Galibier. Reckon there'll have been be a few testers towards the bottom of the Galibier in the valley where it does the first set of switchbacks, just to test the water and shed the non-contenders. Frank and Andy clear at the summit and then Frank to deliver Andy to the bottom of the Alpe where he does his thing and ends up with a 2 minute lead over Evans in the GC.0
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I wonder if I can fake death to get home early today?Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
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I've got to go to a family do on Sunday afternoon. Gutted0
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I reckon we are going to see more of the same as yesterday.
Evans frustrates me because he won't attack. He is however, a great chase man and in that I'm starting to see his strengths. He is a great chase man.
Look at history (coming from me 'heh') and the past two stages. Evans has proven not to have an explosive turn of speed like the Schlecks and Contadaor. When directly battling he too susceptible to being broken. Why? Cadel isn't great at explosive turns of speed - like Contador and the Schleck's. He can't keep attacking then resting and then attacking it uses up too much energy.
What Cadel looks to be great at (which in this Tour Andy and Contador are proving not to be) is building up to a high pace and turning that big gear for the remainder of the race. This is evident from yesterday and the day before. Cadel is that old guy on your commute who can't and won't sprint or explode in a fury of speed but can manage to get the bike up to 24.6mph in all conditions, up any hill and keep it there until you've been spat out the back.
I could see the Schleck's and/or Contador, attacking like crazy, building a sizable lead and winning the stage. Only for Cadel - who didn't go with the attack immediately - to chase, ride them down the time gap. Just as he did yesterday and the day before.
It seems to work.Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
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The live coverage has started on ITV4. They kicked off with some interviews with the leaders after yesterday's stage.
Cadel's line was (basically): We'll have to look at the figures. Because Andy was outrunning nine of us into a headwind. That's pretty strange.
He could have raised his eyebrows, and done a pretend injection motion into his arm with his thumb and first two fingers, and still been less obvious than he was.0 -
Ahh FFS ITV4, why do you manage to miss all the action. One minute nothing, break, next Leopard on the front pacing up the Telegraphe.
:shock: Contador0 -
Voeckler - brilliant. I thought he was gone.0
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Yep the likes of Voeckler, Thor, Hoogerland have made the Tour for me
Contador read my earlier thread and went early to ensure Andy and Frank can't work together.
Not sure how long Voeckler is going to last0 -
JZed wrote:Yep the likes of Voeckler, Thor, Hoogerland have made the Tour for me
Contador read my earlier thread and went early to ensure Andy and Frank can't work together.
Not sure how long Voeckler is going to last
No, agreed. That gear he was pushing whilst out of the saddle behind Evans looked huge in comparision to the other three.0 -
Evans finished?0
