Contador tests positive for Clenbuterol

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  • hommelbier
    hommelbier Posts: 1,556
    Interesting comment on Versus about "who is the real Alberto Contador"

    http://www.versus.com/blogs/the-experts-opinion/alberto-contador-who-exactly-are-you/
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    Show him the comfy chair !
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    hommelbier wrote:
    Interesting comment on Versus about "who is the real Alberto Contador"

    http://www.versus.com/blogs/the-experts-opinion/alberto-contador-who-exactly-are-you/

    Thanks for link.

    Alberto is an interesting character. A mere slip of a lad, with big Bambi eyes, that can hold his own with some pretty forceful company. Whatever the outcome, I hope he maintain some dignity.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Can't see him going down the Landis route.

    Although I could be wrong.
  • sampras38
    sampras38 Posts: 1,917
    edited December 2010
    I really can't see him getting anything less than a 1 year ban, plus his 2010 Tour taken away. Other riders such as Colo have been done for pretty much the same crime so what makes him any different?

    Even by some miracle he did take it un-knowingly through meat, a rider is 100% responsible for what they eat so tough titty AC.

    My guess is he took it just after the Dauphine to try and shed those last few pounds and got found out.

    Does anyone know anymore about the rumoured platicizers? Am I right in saying they found evidence of platicizers the day before they found the Clenbuterol?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Pat McQuaid has grown some cajones?

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-says-uci-will-appeal-unsatisfactory-contador-ruling

    Or that headline refers to unsatisfactory meaning he is found guilty and banned :wink:
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Fat Pat fail like Fifa.
    McQuaid seems to have sentenced Contador with the help of WADA

    Sport.es - Agustí Bernaus writes: The statements of Pat McQuaid when the Federation should judge Contador constitute an outrage of ethics.

    The Union Cycliste Internationale, under pressure from the World Anti-Doping Agency, seems to have passed judgment already on Alberto Contador, the winner of the last Tour. At least this is the message sent by Pat McQuaid’s statements to the German news agency SID: ''If we aren't happy with the Spaniard's decision then we will consult with the World Anti-Doping Agency and go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.”

    McQuaid's statements, without doubt, have been considered a measure of additional pressure on the Competition Committee of the Spanish Federation, chaired by the lawyer Fernando Uruburu, which must decide whether to issue a sanction due to the positive from clenbuterol in an anti-doping control during the last Tour or to accept the rider’s theory about food poisoning and release him from any liability.

    In this phase of the case, during which last week Contador presented all the documentation on which he bases his defense, the Irish director’s words were interpreted as an intent to intimidate those who are judging the matter, which in certain quarters has provoked a degree of tension.

    Regarding the possibility that the resolution could be delayed in excess, more that three months, McQuaid said: ''The Contador case is fairly straightforward; it won't be long and drawn out. The fight against doping demands each time more is scientific knowledge. And it’s logical that the Spaniards are consulting with experts who know all the documentation, as did the UCI in its day.”

    This body, which at first seemed in favor of closing the matter, now, goaded by an inflexible WADA, is only willing to accept sanction: ''It must quite clearly be a fair result.''

    With these statements, McQuaid has given official nature to the theory that the Contador case will go straight to CAS, since the rider himself is unwilling even to accept an admonition. WADA is also leading the way during the next few months, having presented an appeal before CAS against the German Table Tennis Federation, which decided to exonerate table tennis player Dimitri Ovtcharov after clenbuterol was detected during a tournament in China. In this country, 20 percent of meat is being treated with this product.

    Ovtcharov did analysis of his hair and presented it as evidence. The president of the International Federation, Adham Sharara, met with Chinese authorities with the goal of solving a governmental problem, but WADA is only interested in whether or not the banned product was in the athlete’s body.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Fat Pat fail like Fifa.
    McQuaid seems to have sentenced Contador with the help of WADA

    Sport.es - Agustí Bernaus writes: The statements of Pat McQuaid when the Federation should judge Contador constitute an outrage of ethics.

    The Union Cycliste Internationale, under pressure from the World Anti-Doping Agency, seems to have passed judgment already on Alberto Contador, the winner of the last Tour. At least this is the message sent by Pat McQuaid’s statements to the German news agency SID: ''If we aren't happy with the Spaniard's decision then we will consult with the World Anti-Doping Agency and go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.”

    McQuaid's statements, without doubt, have been considered a measure of additional pressure on the Competition Committee of the Spanish Federation, chaired by the lawyer Fernando Uruburu, which must decide whether to issue a sanction due to the positive from clenbuterol in an anti-doping control during the last Tour or to accept the rider’s theory about food poisoning and release him from any liability.

    In this phase of the case, during which last week Contador presented all the documentation on which he bases his defense, the Irish director’s words were interpreted as an intent to intimidate those who are judging the matter, which in certain quarters has provoked a degree of tension.

    Regarding the possibility that the resolution could be delayed in excess, more that three months, McQuaid said: ''The Contador case is fairly straightforward; it won't be long and drawn out. The fight against doping demands each time more is scientific knowledge. And it’s logical that the Spaniards are consulting with experts who know all the documentation, as did the UCI in its day.”

    This body, which at first seemed in favor of closing the matter, now, goaded by an inflexible WADA, is only willing to accept sanction: ''It must quite clearly be a fair result.''

    With these statements, McQuaid has given official nature to the theory that the Contador case will go straight to CAS, since the rider himself is unwilling even to accept an admonition. WADA is also leading the way during the next few months, having presented an appeal before CAS against the German Table Tennis Federation, which decided to exonerate table tennis player Dimitri Ovtcharov after clenbuterol was detected during a tournament in China. In this country, 20 percent of meat is being treated with this product.

    Ovtcharov did analysis of his hair and presented it as evidence. The president of the International Federation, Adham Sharara, met with Chinese authorities with the goal of solving a governmental problem, but WADA is only interested in whether or not the banned product was in the athlete’s body.

    Sooner he's banned the better it'll be for the sport and life will go on with another cheat consigned to the sidelines.
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    UCI ? FIFA ?

    Spot the difference....................

    Lets hope Lemond comes back ans shows 'em how to ride clean............
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    "I get tested every six days" (so surely I should be allowed to fail the odd drug test). He's not been paid since September... anyone on BR willing to let him sleep on their couch?

    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6599/Contador-I-am-tested-every-six-days-I-didnt-win-the-Tour-with-fifty-picograms-of-Clenbuterol.aspx

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,654
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    "I get tested every six days" (so surely I should be allowed to fail the odd drug test). He's not been paid since September... anyone on BR willing to let him sleep on their couch?

    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6599/Contador-I-am-tested-every-six-days-I-didnt-win-the-Tour-with-fifty-picograms-of-Clenbuterol.aspx

    There's something quite accurate in his "I didn't win the tour with 50 picograms of clenbuterol" statement. That's right, Alberto, you didn't win the tour.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    50-60 tests per year yielding no failures + no suspension from bio passport + wins/strong performances in almost all races entered over years = strong likelihood of clean riding.

    And when he next races he will perform to a very high standard and win. This Champion is pure.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    FF earlier.

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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    In case you haven't already realised I laugh at the feeble attempts of the majority to destabilise me.

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    Contador is the Greatest
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    That's good, because I laugh at your feeble efforts to defend Contador.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    frenchfighter wrote:
    In case you haven't already realised I laugh at the feeble attempts of the majority to destabilise me.

    Nobidy is trying to destablise you. This is due to the fact that like me, and 99.99% of all other people registered here nobody gives a tinkers cuss if you are stable or not. They simply don't believe COntador is clean. That is an attack on him, not you.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    edited December 2010
    frenchfighter wrote:
    50-60 tests per year yielding no failures + no suspension from bio passport + wins/strong performances in almost all races entered over years = strong likelihood of clean riding.


    What about all the other riders that get tested regularly, have no bio passport issues and ride well year in and year out with no suspensions? Right up until the point they get caught....


    Only reason he got rumbled this time was because the lab that tested him had better equipment than the labs that tested him every time before.

    If he had been tested in the same lab, with the same über high-tech equipment that registered the positive test this time - and had passed all those tests - then I'd be inclined to believe him.
  • dougzz
    dougzz Posts: 1,833
    frenchfighter wrote:
    In case you haven't already realised I laugh at the feeble attempts of the majority to destabilise me.

    Dude, the one person on these forums that makes you appear destabilised is obvious.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    frenchfighter wrote:
    In case you haven't already realised I laugh at the feeble attempts of the majority to destabilise me.

    I remember when my parents destabilised me. I was about six and I had a crimson bike and I made a right scene, as I was prone to do at the time, when they took the stabilisers off. I crashed a few times after, but eventually it was all OK. Embrace destabilisation FF.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bipedal
    bipedal Posts: 466
    Contador isn't doing his image or public perception any good by being so damned sorry for himself, quite pathetic. I'm happy that it seems the days of slipping the UCI a back-dated TUE are behind us, and good riddance
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,654
    bipedal wrote:
    Contador isn't doing his image or public perception any good by being so damned sorry for himself, quite pathetic. I'm happy that it seems the days of slipping the UCI a back-dated TUE are behind us, and good riddance

    I'd be happy with that too, if it didn't still seem the UCI is being reactive rather than standing on principle. I'm just not convinced by their handling of the affair. Looks to me more like they've made a pragmatic decision to cut him loose because they know the pubic won't swallow any more crap. That's just gut reaction.
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  • sampras38
    sampras38 Posts: 1,917
    I reckon that the general public think they're pretty much all on the gear. At least that's what most of my non-cycling pals think. Not really sure I feel confident arguing with em anymore..;-)
  • Garz
    Garz Posts: 1,155
    andyp wrote:
    FF earlier.

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    :lol:
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    frenchfighter wrote:
    50-60 tests per year yielding no failures + no suspension from bio passport + wins/strong performances in almost all races entered over years = strong likelihood of clean riding.

    And when he next races he will perform to a very high standard and win. This Champion is pure.


    Are you referring to Lance?
  • nickwill
    nickwill Posts: 2,735
    Simple fact. Strict liability rules state that if illegal substances are in your system you are deemed to be guilty. You are officially a doper. Therefore there should be no need for all the legal procedures. As of now, Contador should be suspended and unable to return for two years. Any other decision would suggest that the UCI/ Spanish authorities have the same level of credibility as FIFA.
    http://lakescyclist.wordpress.com/
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    I'm sure if Frenchie puts forward his latest excuse, sorry rational, to Pat and WADA, they will see that the super-testers of Cologne have made an error and drop their beef with Berto.

    At least we now know the real meaning of the acronym UCI.
    It stands for Unstable Contador Idoliser. :wink:

    Some comedy gold in this thread!
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    dennisn wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    50-60 tests per year yielding no failures + no suspension from bio passport + wins/strong performances in almost all races entered over years = strong likelihood of clean riding.

    And when he next races he will perform to a very high standard and win. This Champion is pure.


    Are you referring to Lance?

    You know FF is backing the wrong horse when even Dennis can pwn him in one sentence :wink:
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    I'm sure if Frenchie puts forward his latest excuse, sorry rational, to Pat and WADA, they will see that the super-testers of Cologne have made an error and drop their beef with Berto.

    At least we now know the real meaning of the acronym UCI.
    It stands for Unstable Contador Idoliser. :wink:

    Some comedy gold in this thread!

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    drop their beef
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    afx237vi wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    50-60 tests per year yielding no failures + no suspension from bio passport + wins/strong performances in almost all races entered over years = strong likelihood of clean riding.

    And when he next races he will perform to a very high standard and win. This Champion is pure.


    Are you referring to Lance?

    You know FF is backing the wrong horse when even Dennis can pwn him in one sentence :wink:

    I'm a bad boy. I just couldn't resist. :oops: :oops:
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    frenchfighter wrote:
    50-60 tests per year yielding no failures + no suspension from bio passport + wins/strong performances in almost all races entered over years = strong likelihood of clean riding.

    And when he next races he will perform to a very high standard and win. This Champion is pure.

    Pure cheat.

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