Garmin GPS
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what do you mean dumb
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I have no shame! No shame, all gain!0 -
teamtalairan wrote:what do you mean dumb !
however ....
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I have no shame! No shame, all gain!
Only kidding, no such thing as a dumb question
Start with a budget, finish with a mortgage!0 -
I've had my 705 for over a year now and love it. The one time i had a problem with it (the battery on the Cadence sensor kept draining overnight) i spoke with a chap at Garmin who was charm itself, very helpful, he checked some purchase details and although it was just outside the warranty period he put another cadence sensor in the post that day0
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I use a running version Forerunner 305, as I don't really need maps often. I got the cadence sensor with it (about 12 months ago) but only got round to fitting it this week - new bike that I didn't want to clutter up. I have to say the unit is a bit bulky and I'm a little bit worried about knocking it into my wheel - with the sensor arm sticking out. Anyone had any problems after knocking the cadence sensor?
That said I've used it on the turbo and had no problems at all.
If anyone wants to log their training online http://www.runsaturday.com is an excellent website. I use RS and SportTracks, RS being an online back up of the ST log.0 -
Another question i have (other than the virtual partner one i posted earlier!) is this ...
If I go out on a route every morn (same route) which then becomes a saved ride, can i set the garmin to train me within that ride? i.e. make me do intervals or get above various heart rates in that particular ride OR do i have to set it in 'workouts' and simple and then give the time of the ride i'm doing (50 mins) and take it from there?
Hope that makes sense.0 -
redddraggon wrote:I got full mapping + 705 + HR for around £270 in November.
Reddraggon - where did you buy yours from and what was the version number for the 705 with full maps? - I'm not sure from looking at the Garmin site. Is it 010-00555-31?
Thanks
ScottiePMy cycling blog: http://girodilento.com/0 -
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I got the 705 full kit incl cadence, HRM, and TOPO GB maps on dvd and SD card from eBay for £105. Couldn't believe I won it, and while waiting for it thought it was going to arrive damaged or just worth the money I paid, but when it arrived it was mint, included a receipt from the seller and he had just bought it 2 weeks previous. (I did try returning it but they would only return the funds to his PayPal )
I mailed him to get some Garmin log in details and he said was very glad to see it go as it had caused him nothing but problems in that he could not get a signal, and it kept stopping and starting his laps. Well a year on and I still havn't had any problems with it, love it! Although never had a need to look at the mapping side of it 0 -
redddraggon wrote:
Thanks - look like prices have gone up a bit since then.My cycling blog: http://girodilento.com/0 -
ScottieP wrote:redddraggon wrote:
Thanks - look like prices have gone up a bit since then.
They are less than £260, SD card about £6, Maps free0 -
Redddragon , you're being a bit coy about your maps. Do you mind telling us what you have, from where and what the quality is like?
The deal from handtec is without the cadence sensor, but is that all it does or do you need it for speed or anything else I haven't thought of?
I think there are a few of us ready to take the plung but are not quite sure what they are getting into, so advice is appreciated, thanks.0 -
The maps were from a nefarious source.
You only need the Cadence sensor for cadence, it also can do speed, but the GPS can also do that. It's only necessary if you want speed on the turbo/rollers - however speed is meaningless on the turbo/rollers and simply HR is enough for me.0 -
thunderflash55 wrote:I got the 705 full kit incl cadence, HRM, and TOPO GB maps on dvd and SD card from eBay for £105. Couldn't believe I won it, and while waiting for it thought it was going to arrive damaged or just worth the money I paid, but when it arrived it was mint, included a receipt from the seller and he had just bought it 2 weeks previous. (I did try returning it but they would only return the funds to his PayPal )
I mailed him to get some Garmin log in details and he said was very glad to see it go as it had caused him nothing but problems in that he could not get a signal, and it kept stopping and starting his laps. Well a year on and I still havn't had any problems with it, love it! Although never had a need to look at the mapping side of it
Ha ha! Sounds like he just didn't read the manual and had the GPS receiver switched off and autolap on!More problems but still living....0 -
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teamtalairan wrote:Another question i have (other than the virtual partner one i posted earlier!) is this ...
If I go out on a route every morn (same route) which then becomes a saved ride, can i set the garmin to train me within that ride? i.e. make me do intervals or get above various heart rates in that particular ride OR do i have to set it in 'workouts' and simple and then give the time of the ride i'm doing (50 mins) and take it from there?
Hope that makes sense.
Interesting question. I don't think you can accomplish this, but I will try it tonight on the way to a club run and let you know.
My reasoning is, to get a virtual partner up, you have to either be navigating a course you have ridden before or generated online with a set speed, or you use a simple workout to pace yourself.
Only way to get intervals for various heart rates, cadence, power etc, is advanced workouts.
You can't use a simple workout and an advanced workout at a time, as only one workout can be activate at a time.
Now I don't think you can use a course, and a workout at the same time, but I might be wrong so will check and let you know.
Would of thought though, if its always the set route and you want to push yourself in certain section, i.e. up certain hills, you could use distance to set the intervals. i.e. 3 .2miles warmp before you get to the bottom of the hill, 0.37 miles to the brow so have a goal of maintaning aset speed up it etc etc
As for your other question about how far you are behind or ahead of the Virtual partner, think you click the enter button when the screen is up, but only ever changed it once, will check tonight as well and let you know as my memory is failing me.0 -
Thanks Will on both accounts. Much appreciated.
Yes the virtual partner Q baffles me, as I'm sure it's shown me time ahead/behind the partner before and now it's simply distance. Also when you say 'enter' key, do you mean the joystick being clicked ?
Is there a function on the edge to 'train' using your 'cadence' - i can't remember seeing it.
Could you or someone explain to me how to use the advanced workout menu?
ALL VERY MUCH APPREICATED. I am sure in time it will all become so obvious and familiar and I'm guessing that the amount of things you can do on the edge is the reason why its all baffling me!0 -
ANOTHER Question:
When i download a course from biketoaster - when i apply it in my GPS is gives me on my dashboard a 'time to complete' the course.
Where does it get this information from - is it from bike toaster i.e. when on RHS of bike toaster it says '30mph on flats' and another option for hills which you can change - does it calculate it from that. Or is it something that's pre programmed within the garmin.
If it is biketoaster, do you then simply put your average speed into those boxes?
If it is Garmin, where can you change it to your match your fitness i,e, it would take lance armstong less time than me to do a 20 mile route ...0 -
teamtalairan wrote:ANOTHER Question:
When i download a course from biketoaster - when i apply it in my GPS is gives me on my dashboard a 'time to complete' the course.
Where does it get this information from - is it from bike toaster i.e. when on RHS of bike toaster it says '30mph on flats' and another option for hills which you can change - does it calculate it from that. Or is it something that's pre programmed within the garmin.
If it is biketoaster, do you then simply put your average speed into those boxes?
If it is Garmin, where can you change it to your match your fitness i,e, it would take lance armstong less time than me to do a 20 mile route ...
yes it calculates it based on the speed on flats and climbing rate, as this determines the time/speed of the route if you save it down as a course for your garmin, rather than just importing it as a gpx (which you can covert to a course anyway)
if you look in the summary screen after you change the values for flat etc, the total time adjusts accordingly. Can't remember what values I ended up using but typically was within 5 mins of my actual time for a 2-3 hr ride0 -
teamtalairan wrote:Yes the virtual partner Q baffles me, as I'm sure it's shown me time ahead/behind the partner before and now it's simply distance. Also when you say 'enter' key, do you mean the joystick being clicked ?
Ah I had misread your first post, thought you meant you used to have it on seconds and its now on distance. I've done TTs using the VP to pace me and that was always distance so I'm wondering if my memory is failing me and you can't put it into time, can see how it would be calculated easily, but looked at the menus and can't see anything
have to teach me if you work it out 
teamtalairan wrote:Is there a function on the edge to 'train' using your 'cadence' - i can't remember seeing it.!
You can do this two ways, either setup an alert or use an advanced working.
To set an alert (which you can set by Time,speed, HR, Cadence or Power) you do the following
1. Turn the 705 on and wait for it to load:)
2. Click Menu
3. Select Training
4. Select Alerts
5. Chose the alert type you wish to use, i.e. Cadence in your case
6. You can then choose a high and low setting, or in Cadence terms 'Slow Cadence Alert' and 'Fast Cadence Alert'.
If you are choosing HR, Power or Speed, you can either selcet the max min based on a zone in your profile, or a custom setting.
Randomly I actually have a time alert set for 15 mins to make sure I eat and drink regularly on a long rideteamtalairan wrote:Could you or someone explain to me how to use the advanced workout menu?
Best to actually create the advanced workouts in the Garmin software, Training Center. Only downside there is that you can't select Power through the software, even with the latest version distibuted in December 09, unless I'm being blind.
Anyway to create a new Advanced work out do the following, won't go into to much detail as its self explanatory once you get in there
1. If you don't already have Garmin Training center(its American so its er at the end) installed, go download it from Garmin and get it installed
2. Open Garmin Training Center
3. Click Workouts across the top
4. Expand Biking
5. Right Click on Biking and click on New Workout
6. Name it in the top right
7. You will already have a step 1 in there and selected. Now have a play
Have a play with the options. As you can set how the step ends, e.g. certain amount of time, distance or when your Heart Rate goes above or below a certain level.
you can also select the Target for the step, or not as the case may be. Set a specific speed zone, cadence or heart rate. can't select power in here, but you can if you create them on the decice
When you want to create a new step, under the name is a single green plus (+), if you want to add a loop in, there is a snaller button with two green pluses (++)
I would advise naming the steps, reason being then it actually pops up on screen with what you want to do
8. Click OK to save your workout
9. Plug your Garmin in
10. Click the Send to Device button or Click File > Send To Device
11. Unplug the device.
12. When you want to do the workout, click Menu > Training > Workouts > Advanced Workouts and select your workout. You will need to click Start to get it going
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Will., you are a veritable mine of information. HEAVEN SENT. Thank you so much for all of the answers which i will digest and try. I've been having yet another play with it tonight which has been thrilling, and i am v. excited by the advanced workout option as that's exactly what i am interested in doing. In the advanced workout option I can work out most of the options, but being a dumbo i cant work out what 'WU/CD' means. Also is 'B' before the workouts for Bike or Base and is the 'R' before the workout descripttion Race or Run?0
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Will., you are a veritable mine of information. HEAVEN SENT. Thank you so much for all of the answers which i will digest and try. I've been having yet another play with it tonight which has been thrilling, and i am v. excited by the advanced workout option as that's exactly what i am interested in doing. In the advanced workout option I can work out most of the options, but being a dumbo i cant work out what 'WU/CD' means. Also is 'B' before the workouts for Bike or Base and is the 'R' before the workout descripttion Race or Run?0
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Will., you are a veritable mine of information. HEAVEN SENT. Thank you so much for all of the answers which i will digest and try. I've been having yet another play with it tonight which has been thrilling, and i am v. excited by the advanced workout option as that's exactly what i am interested in doing. In the advanced workout option I can work out most of the options, but being a dumbo i cant work out what 'WU/CD' means. Also is 'B' before the workouts for Bike or Base and is the 'R' before the workout descripttion Race or Run?0
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heheh very welcome, think you triple posted there
I have no idea what the naming is on the preset workouts other that the prefix R, B and O refers to the type, Run Bike and Other respectively. If you have a forerunner say, you can use it in these three modes, hence the prefix.
Had a quick look and the WU/CD, stands for Warm Up and Cool down, double click on the workout and it gives you a description
I have been using some of the fitness garmins now since 07, and love them to bits, with the exception of an incident which ended up with me smashing my forerunner 305 up that left me with no garmin for 5 days while I bought a 705, all my runs, rides and any long walks have been logged with them, how sad! Picked up most of the functionality straight away, but still find little options or new ways to use it a few years on 0 -
Good thread, thanks all. Very tempted by a 605. Just need to find a way of justifying it to my Mrs.0
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WU/CD - of course - DOH - wow that is so cool.
Yes of course. I forgot youn can use the edge for running too. Double DOH!
I don't think it's sad at all! I've only had mine a couple of days AND i havent even taken it out for a test run and I'm already in love. So can see why you are too.
I'm hoping this weekend to give it a run - but judging by the floods where I am ... I'm not exactly confident.0 -
only used the forerunner myself for running as it is wrist mounted, but have taken the edge for hill walking etc, works quite well even in a thick pocket.
As for buying a 605, if you want a HR or cadence or power in the future get a 705, think it will have a better resale value. mind you I will never part with mine, probably end up smashing it up like my 305 in the past 0 -
I agree with Will - when i was debating between the two - i thought if i am going to spend that sort of dosh i may as get one with bells and whistles so i dont instantly wish i could upgrade it. I vote 705!0
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How you go get your training centre or garmin connect, to create/schedule advanced workouts. I'm not at my home PC where my training centre is, but when i look at the online one i.e. Garmin Connect, I can't see how you schedule the advanced workouts to transfer to the edge - which when reading the insturctions pdf it tells you can do 9but not how!)
I'm v excited by the prospect of it being pre-planned and that when i get up on tues it'll tell me to to 'this sort of training' and then on weds 'that sort'!0 -
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ah but but but sir ... in the pdf it states clearly you can create/plan workouts in advance and then store them on your edge ...!
SO I assume from that you can use the preplanned workouts that are already programmed in your 705 and ask it to set you to do your 'interval training' on monday 'hill sim' on tues' 'distance etc' weds and so on so forth. So when you get up on your bike that day it has a set task for you to to ... !0
