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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    ravey1981 wrote:
    Why is it so difficult for them to come up with the one thing that everyone surely wants...ie a 705 with full OS mapping.

    Ordnance survey mapping is not really necessary, google maps level of detail is fine. Which city navigator is.

    City Navigator Maps are a rip off though TBH, @ £270 ish they should come on the Garmin.
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  • do the base maps have b roads/quiet lanes on? I live in the country - will it be of any use and is this what I need?

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  • ravey1981
    ravey1981 Posts: 1,111
    As I said, I want to use it for mtbing too which often means trying to find out whether I am on one poorly defined track or another one...trust me.. been there. So OS is really a must for me, to not have to carry a map and to be able to see my exact position on a digital OS map would be amazing. The memory map 2800 does exactly this but then it doesn't have all the features that I want for my road cycling...
  • rokkala
    rokkala Posts: 649
    hopper1 wrote:

    Will do.
    FWIW, I originally ran my PT without the cadence sensor, it was accurate enough, but a little slow to alter, if you suddenly jumped on the pedals, or slowed quickly, so I plugged in the sensor. Same readings, just a faster reaction.

    Cheers hopper1, appreciated!
  • http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GARMIN-CITY-NAVIG ... 56387e9d67
    about £34 sounds better
    the screen on a 705 is too small or doesnt have the capacity to run the display that would be required you would need a second unit like sat map or garmin oregon both of which run os mapping but dont do training, the 705 is really designed for the road cyclist with the amount of telementry available.
  • If i buy the Navigator Europe or UK SD Card, can i route on the computer or only on the GPS - can you route on the GPS?
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    You want the DVD to do any route planning on the computer.
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  • Buy City Navigator NT Europe on DVD (latest version is V11, cheaper V9 and 10 about, hardly any difference to most people, just a few road / Mway junction updates) and then Mapsource is a FREE download from the Garmin website to use the Navigator software.

    From Mapsource you can plot routes, add waypoints etc etc (it`s a huge programme that will keeep you busy for ages) and also you use Mapsource to UPLOAD the detailed maps to your 705, and also upload routes etc to the 705 after plotting them.

    Once you`ve got the detailed Gamin maps onto your 705, you can use Bikehike and Bikeroutetoaster to plot routes, courses etc easily and upload them to your 705, and you`ll be able to see the detailed stuff that you`re looking for, also available as a free download from the web is Topographical info to overlay onto the Gamin map / 705 so you can see the height detail of hills on the route.

    Loadsa useful info on Franks website to do with the 705 and planning routes, courses etc using BH and BRT

    http://frank.kinlan.co.uk/?page_id=1212
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  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    ravey1981 wrote:
    Does anyone know if the 705 software is compatible with macs? Also how good are the maps? I often use very minor roads and also would like to use for mtbing. Im guessing the maps aren't OS quality?

    The garmin software, training centre is available for MACs, it is available for download here:

    http://www8.garmin.com/support/download ... sp?id=3339

    Mind you, I hardly use the garmin software as it is pretty poor prefering to use SportTracks, a free program, as my log book as well as WKO+ (bought software as I train by power)

    I'm not one for an online training diary like motionbased and its replacment garmin connect, yes I use them, but prefer to have it offline hence SportTracks. Okay to get the maps on sporttracks it uses Google, but if your looking round the same area it caches the map tiles and has much better reporting etc with loads of extra functionality built in from plug ins!
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  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241

    That is an absolute bargin at only 4.95, its dropped gain.

    yes its only UK and Ireland and 2008, but if your on a serious budget thats a steal!

    I do prefer as other people have metioned, the maps on DVD rather than an SD card so you can do routing on the PC, but cant knock the price for this.
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  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    as for starting out tips. couple of settings I would personally change on the unit

    The 705 like its previous models has smart record, I personally don't like this, and would suggest putting it to every second recording. Otherwise it stores data only ever few seconds based on changes to direction, speed etc and is a bit lumpy in the data, espicallt if you are recording power.

    (under Menu > settings > Data Recording)

    Also I would turn on including Zeros in your aveages, otherwise it doesnt bother including zeros in your cadence averages or your power (personal preference)

    (under Menu > settings > Data Recording)

    Get a screen protector, found they incease the screen visiblity in direct sunlight.

    Would set your backlight to staay on , as has little affect on the battery in my example and also change the display mode to auto (it changes colour scheme automatically at sunset and sunrise to make the dispay easier to read)


    (Menu > Settings > Display)

    hope that helps a little to anyone


    As you can probably tell, i love my garmin more than my bike or my gf :) Also i'm to much of a techie! :)
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  • Thank you for answering that - i thought it was a steal too, hence me asking! Well, I've added to basket now - yipeee!
  • PS. This one is full europe and the same price?!?!

    http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electro ... Price&fb=0
  • Those handy hints are great Will - thank you. No doubt when it arrives it will have a million more Q's. I'm also, as someone kindly suggested checking out Frank Kinlan's blog too.
    Thank you.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    willbevan wrote:
    Would set your backlight to staay on , as has little affect on the battery in my example and also change the display mode to auto (it changes colour scheme automatically at sunset and sunrise to make the dispay easier to read)

    I timed my 705, full battery lasted nearly 9 hours on full screen brightness
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  • As I will have Navigator on Micro Card, I understand I can't plan a route on the computer to download on to the GPS, whereas if I had the navigator nt maps on dvd I could. HOWEVER, is there any way of planning a route on the computer i.e. through basemaps/garmin site/someother site/google earth?

    Also, can i plan a route on the GPS direct i.e. not simply say 'Home to Maidstone' but rather 'this point to this point to this point to this point'. I'm guessing not, but i am surprised if so.

    Is it the case with the SD card that is has detailed mapping on the GPS and I can trasnfer the ride onto my computer AFTER I have done it, but simply not before hand. It then saves this route, and so in future i can say 'home to maidstone route' and it will take me exactly where I went before?

    Hope someone can help
  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    PS. This one is full europe and the same price?!?!

    http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electro ... Price&fb=0

    £29.95, now :shock: .... Don't you just hate dallying about!? :evil:
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  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    As I will have Navigator on Micro Card, I understand I can't plan a route on the computer to download on to the GPS, whereas if I had the navigator nt maps on dvd I could. HOWEVER, is there any way of planning a route on the computer i.e. through basemaps/garmin site/someother site/google earth?

    Also, can i plan a route on the GPS direct i.e. not simply say 'Home to Maidstone' but rather 'this point to this point to this point to this point'. I'm guessing not, but i am surprised if so.

    Is it the case with the SD card that is has detailed mapping on the GPS and I can trasnfer the ride onto my computer AFTER I have done it, but simply not before hand. It then saves this route, and so in future i can say 'home to maidstone route' and it will take me exactly where I went before?

    Hope someone can help

    There are numerous websites where you can plan routes (e.g. bikehike, bikely, bikeroutetoaster). You don't need the Garmin maps on your PC, but without them Mapsource won't be much use for planning rides. I prefer to use tracks over routes (so I get a line to follow, but no turn-by-turn directions which is how I like it - I still have to think about my route) and I have never even used Mapsource.

    Once you've planned a route (on one of the above websites or Mapsource) you can transfer it to your GPS and use it. Most Garmins also have a trackback feature where you can navigate back along a tracklog that you've logged on the GPS.

    Basically not having the Garmin maps on your PC isn't a big deal.
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  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    As I will have Navigator on Micro Card, I understand I can't plan a route on the computer to download on to the GPS, whereas if I had the navigator nt maps on dvd I could. HOWEVER, is there any way of planning a route on the computer i.e. through basemaps/garmin site/someother site/google earth?

    You can use many of the online tools to create routers and download them to your device such as www.bikeroutetoaster.com amoung others

    Also, can i plan a route on the GPS direct i.e. not simply say 'Home to Maidstone' but rather 'this point to this point to this point to this point'. I'm guessing not, but i am surprised if so.

    Yes you can but you have little control over it, I have not spent to much time plotting a route on the unit itself, always done it before hand with the DVD garmin maps (mapsoure) or with an online application such as bike route toaster.

    I think all you can do is:

    1. ask it to go to a saved location (You can save locations , i.e. waypoints). Very easy to save a location during a ride, as you click Menu > Save Location

    2. Give it an address/town or postcode and navigate to it

    3. Browse the map, and click a point on the map.

    Very simple, can't for example plot a route on the device to your local town, via a point. It will decide how you will get there. Unless you do it in chunks. Navigate to the viallage, and then oncve you get there get it to navigate to the town (hope that makes sense)

    Is it the case with the SD card that is has detailed mapping on the GPS and I can trasnfer the ride onto my computer AFTER I have done it, but simply not before hand. It then saves this route, and so in future i can say 'home to maidstone route' and it will take me exactly where I went before?

    You can navigate a previous saved ride that is in your history, can't remember the exact menu option and don't have my garmin with me at this moment.

    It is simple though, ride it once. Then into navigation, find the previous ride and select it.

    Got to remember though that if you delete it from the device (i.e. the history) its gone :)

    May be able to save it as a course mind you but that doesnt re-reroute if you go of course

    Hope that helps
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  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241

    I timed my 705, full battery lasted nearly 9 hours on full screen brightness

    Had mine on 50% brightness and had over 12 hours from it.

    Would say unless you are doing substantial amount of riding a week without charging your not going to notice this if you charge weekly.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    I find that if you create a .gpx in a googlemaps based web application, the turn by turn prompts might fail.

    If you want to create a reliable .gpx you need to do it in mapsource.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    willbevan wrote:

    I timed my 705, full battery lasted nearly 9 hours on full screen brightness

    Had mine on 50% brightness and had over 12 hours from it.

    Would say unless you are doing substantial amount of riding a week without charging your not going to notice this if you charge weekly.

    Yeh the battery life is pretty good.

    5% brightness is good enough in the dark too.
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  • Thanks Guys - I beleive the Garmin has arrived at home, so once I'm set up I'll give the above suggestions a go. No doubt I'll have more annoying questions. Thank you for your patience and advice.
  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    congrats on joining the club lol :) no doubt you will not regret it

    hopefully we can help with any questions you have :)
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  • dd1
    dd1 Posts: 73
    You can transfer the maps from the SD card to use on your computer.

    I followed the instructions on the website below and it seems to work.

    http://www.velorider.co.uk/wp02/?p=68

    Good idea to back the SD card up to the computer as well.
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  • That's fantastic - thank you all!
  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    dd1 wrote:
    You can transfer the maps from the SD card to use on your computer.

    I followed the instructions on the website below and it seems to work.

    http://www.velorider.co.uk/wp02/?p=68

    Good idea to back the SD card up to the computer as well.

    bookmarked and saved :) nifty little tip there dont need it for the city navigators but got something else to try it on :)
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  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    5% brightness is good enough in the dark too.

    Will have to try that tomorrow AM, as never bothered trying lower
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  • Well the baby is here, and I can tell already I'll have lots of questions.
    However, my first is: The Virtual Partner. I see since playing with it last night I have knocked a function which was originally telling me how many SECONDS i am behind the partner and now it tells me the DISTANCE. How do set it to go back to time?

    Also can i only use the virtual partner on set workouts or set courses or can i have it there when i simply jump on the bike and GO ...
  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    teamtalairan, mine should arrive today :D
    So, here's the deal....
    You ask all the dumb questions, and I'll lurk in the corner, making notes. :wink:


    Deal? :wink:
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