Richmond Park 3-lap Challenge 2010

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  • HamishD
    HamishD Posts: 538
    Crikey it was windy yesterday . . .

    The plan was to bike to RP (15 miles), 3 laps, then the same home.

    Got there about 2pm and I thought I'd do a recce lap first seeing as I've never been there before. Did that in 22 mins; far too many cars and too much wind for my liking. Decided to save the 3 laps for another day a) less windy, b) earlier in the day c) less of a ride in.

    Reckon I can crack 60 but not first time. . . . some of the times posted on here I could only dream of getting!
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
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    Finally under the hour this year, and it's a PB for a morning run. Got some time off this week, so thought I get out early and hopefully beat the rain. Which I did, and conditions were excellent.

    However, that was painful, and for all the wrong reasons: my lower back and hamstrings were aching like hell on and off and I just couldn't get as much power down - had to resort to climbing out of the saddle and standing up to stretch at times to ease the discomfort. I've been plagued by position issues the last couple of months. Am going to try a few different positions on the turbo, but if this persists, I'm going for a proper fitting, otherwise I can see this royally buggering up my Marmotte training.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    edited April 2010
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    Chipping away. Was surprised i did that well as my legs hurt from walking up an escalator earlier the day. Easterly breeze going to spring up this weekend so im guessing we will see quite a lot of activity in this thread :wink:
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Easterly breeze going to spring up this weekend so im guessing we will see quite a lot of activity in this thread :wink:
    That might have been noticed ;)
    FCN 2-4 "Shut up legs", Jens Voigt
    Planet-x Scott
    Rides
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,602
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    First attempt at this. Was aiming for 60 but a bit ambitious I think. I managed 19:55 on the first lap, about 20:45 on the second and then was shattered on the last lap, which was 24:20. Obviously need to work on pacing a bit, as well as generally getting fitter!
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
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    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
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    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
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    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training

    Thought I'd better try and get a PB in before everything goes down hill as I hear marriage does terrible things to your fitness, unlike CJCP I didn't find the conditions that friendly, a mostly North wind. Had the race tyres on though unlike last time, which probably made most of the saving. Not too many hold ups, annoying traffic on the last lap which stopped me breaking the 54 minute barrier, but otherwise okay - 17:55 / 18:06 / 17:59.

    An all time PB by 3 seconds from a late summer run in good conditions with 5% less watts, so should be good for some better times, and I can certainly get a few more watts than that.

    I also updated SPEEDOboy77's Cat now he's actually started a race...
    Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Right, first thing Saturday it is then - not in good shape at all (knackered my knee trying to train for the marathon) but have been feeling OK on the commute, and the road bike hasn't been ridden in anger since the last 3-lapper so it is overdue a run out. That wind better be good!
  • london-red
    london-red Posts: 1,266
    I think I'll do the same - I'm intrigued as to where I might be with decent conditions considering I've commuted all winter and have little idea of fitness due to riding without a computer. Sub 60 mins and I'll be happy for this time of year.

    Anything else, and it's beer o'clock...
  • Rushie
    Rushie Posts: 115
    CJCP - thanks for beating me by one second! I had a go this morning but about a minute down - not sleeping enough - v.tired. Will have another go next week (puts on "Grrrr" face).
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    Top time Jim, I suspected you were on a three lapper when we passed as you had a stonking race-face going on:)

    What are said race tires? Latex tubes as well?
  • First unbroken night's sleep from the 11 month-old works wonders... Without the traffic I reckon I can get under 54

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    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    Petromyzon..............Anti........76kg......55.24........Mar........LD.......AP 301W NP 309W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........72kg......56:07.........Mar.......KW.......AP 277W NP 287W
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    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
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    mroli.........................Anti..........68kg......65.47.........Apr.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    Petromyzon wrote:
    Top time Jim, I suspected you were on a three lapper when we passed as you had a stonking race-face going on:)

    I'm not even sure I remember seeing you when I was actually doing it! it all gets pretty blurry by the end...
    Petromyzon wrote:
    What are said race tires? Latex tubes as well?

    Vittoria Evo CX, and yes with latex tubes.
    Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    I kept changing direction to avoid deer holdups and keep the work on.

    Vittorias: nice. Specialized have got a new S-works Mondo open tubular model (prob made by Vittoria) which is the new fastest rolling clincher in the Al Morrison roller tests if you have perused those. Now to find some to aid the quest for sub-53 min this year!!
  • Petromyzon wrote:
    Specialized have got a new S-works Mondo open tubular model (prob made by Vittoria) which is the new fastest rolling clincher in the Al Morrison roller tests if you have perused those. Now to find some to aid the quest for sub-53 min this year!!
    I've already contacted Specialized UK about them, as they don't list them on their website. This was their response:

    "Thank you for your interest in our tyres. At the moment we only carry the Mondo S-works clincher tyre and not the open tubular version.
    It looks like this is unlikely to change until possibly the summer when we launch the new road range, although I have no idea what the products will be at this time.
    I am sorry I cannot be much help."

    So it looks like for now we'll have to import from the US if we want them badly enough.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Rushie wrote:
    CJCP - thanks for beating me by one second! I had a go this morning but about a minute down - not sleeping enough - v.tired. Will have another go next week (puts on "Grrrr" face).

    :) When I entered the Park, there was a chap in a Cervelo TT kit to chase and the tit-for-tat (no drafting, I should add) we had to Roehampton Gate spurred me on.

    Am hoping to give it another go tomorrow morning. Ain't quite sure where the extra time is going to come from tbh as my back still aches, but what the hell...

    EDIT: @ Jim - top time! Marriage doesn't affect your fitness (not with your OH, at least). It's kids what does that. They will break you. :)
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    You got on that pretty quickly Tarmac:) I may email them to in order to add another voice.
    The tyre situation is frustrating- they can make really quite a big difference but there are only two sources of data to go on, Al Morrison and Tour magazine, one of whom uses Conti's test facilities, carries Conti advertising and ranks Conti really well, whilst one doesn't.
    When one manufacturer probably has a very fast tire there is no economic imperative to distribute it because no-one realises/trusts that it is that good and so asks for it.

    Similar situation with Road Tubeless, which I love- there is an IRC version which would give Vittoria/latex tubes a run for their money whilst running sealant but you can't get it outside Japan.

    Nice to see this thread hotting up. I'm particularly terrified of Felgen setting that time whilst going back for dropped kit. Have my first evening 10TT tonight to get some race-face training in :lol::lol:
  • eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    Petromyzon..............Anti........76kg......55.24........Mar........LD.......AP 301W NP 309W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    mathammond............Anti.........82kg......57:20........Mar.......N/A.......Leisure
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60.20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........91kg......63:35........Mar.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    Greasygrinder.........Anti.........75kg........63.43.......Apr.......KW....Fitness/sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    mroli.........................Anti..........68kg......65.47.........Apr.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training

    Well, that could have been a lot faster, but I'm consoling myself with the thought that there should be plenty more good days to come this year. On the first two laps there was a stationary line of cars queuing for the car park between Richmond and Ham. Comparing with the data for the 3rd lap where I got a clear run down that section, I lost 17 secs and 19 secs, though in practice I would have lost less time due to recovering a bit while not outputting power. On the 3rd lap my chain came off, lost 40 seconds. I really need to work out how to stop it doing that. I was so angry that I probably got a lot of the time back when I got moving again!!!

    Laps:
    18:34 278W
    18:20 284W
    18:11 296W
    which might look like they add up to 55:05 not 55:06, but it says 55:06 from the start of the first lap to the end of the last lap, so I guess there are fractions of a second on top of each of those times.
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    Glad to hear there was a lot of traffic as I almost decided to give this another go today, but eventually decided a gentle ride out windsor way would be more enjoyable in the weather. Would've been more annoyed if the conditions had been perfect.

    Good time still - wasn't it a west wind though rather than the east wind forecast?
    Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    jibberjim wrote:
    Glad to hear there was a lot of traffic as I almost decided to give this another go today, but eventually decided a gentle ride out windsor way would be more enjoyable in the weather. Would've been more annoyed if the conditions had been perfect.

    Good time still - wasn't it a west wind though rather than the east wind forecast?

    Its a light westerly wind out there today. Not sure why you think there should be an easterly? Thats this weekend
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    Good time still - wasn't it a west wind though rather than the east wind forecast?

    Its a light westerly wind out there today. Not sure why you think there should be an easterly? Thats this weekend[/quote]

    The forecasts I'd seen, e.g.
    http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/tod ... ipcode=kt1

    all had the east wind starting today, and just getting stronger through the weekend, saturday evening does really look good, maybe I should DNS the Bletchingley race.
    Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/
  • tomb8555
    tomb8555 Posts: 229
    jibberjim wrote:

    all had the east wind starting today, and just getting stronger through the weekend, saturday evening does really look good, maybe I should DNS the Bletchingley race.

    If I feel less fluey tomorrow then I'll be having a crack at another 3-laps, so you'll probably be safer doing Bletchingley :-P
  • There wasn't actually a lot of traffic in general, it was just the one point at that car park where there was a problem with queuing cars blocking the road.

    The wind was pretty light, whatever the direction. I didn't notice any particular difference in strength depending on which direction I was riding in, and it looks pretty neutral overall when I look at the ride data in aerolab.

    The pressure is very high at the moment, though, which is one aspect that makes it less than ideal for fast times.
  • eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    Petromyzon..............Anti........76kg......55.24........Mar........LD.......AP 301W NP 309W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    mathammond............Anti.........82kg......57:20........Mar.......N/A.......Leisure
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60.20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Greasygrinder..........Clock......75kg.......62:38......Apr........KW.......AP 259
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........91kg......63:35........Mar.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    mroli.........................Anti..........68kg......65.47.........Apr.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training



    Lovely conditions out there (friday 9th afternoon) and a PB for me in spite of some interesting manoeuvrings at the roundabouts... I seem to be going against the grain going clockwise... Having a power meter has made an enourmous difference. It stops me skiving. Does anybody set their 'oi you're slacking' alarm on the Garmin?

    There was a guy on an old singlespeed that looks like it's made of scaffold poles absolutely cranking around RP this afternoon. Respect.
    Knees tracking forward, elbows soft, cadenc- ooo, bunnies!
  • felgen
    felgen Posts: 829
    Petromyzon wrote:
    Nice to see this thread hotting up.
    Yes indeed - a real purple patch of people posting times. Given my 3 and a bit minute improvements year on year - maybe I could crack 50 minutes with all the gear and perfect conditions.
    Petromyzon wrote:
    I'm particularly terrified of Felgen setting that time whilst going back for dropped kit. Have my first evening 10TT tonight to get some race-face training in :lol::lol:
    Whilst that was annoying, I reckon the wind was the worst. I only managed 17mph up Sawyers Hill, whilst failing to reap any benefit on the other half fo the lap due to traffic obstructions.

    Can't wait to have another pop - the leaderboard is such a great thing to have, and I have already dropped 2 spots in less than a week... :shock:
    Steeds:
    1)Planet X SL Pro carbon
    2)Nelson Pista Singlespeed
    3)Giant Cadex MTB
    4)BeOne Karma MTB
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    jibberjim wrote:
    Good time still - wasn't it a west wind though rather than the east wind forecast?

    Its a light westerly wind out there today. Not sure why you think there should be an easterly? Thats this weekend

    The forecasts I'd seen, e.g.
    http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/tod ... ipcode=kt1

    all had the east wind starting today, and just getting stronger through the weekend, saturday evening does really look good, maybe I should DNS the Bletchingley race.[/quote]

    Ah forecasts id seen hadnt really gone for an easterly today. Good luck for the weekend everyone :)
  • felgen
    felgen Posts: 829
    Regarding the wind I am sure it was discussed in last years' thread, but if you are lucky enough to live near the park, you only need to look up and see which way the planes are going - they always land into the wind :). If they are flying over Fulham/Kew - it means a Sawyers Hill headwind.

    I am sure someone with more time than me can look up the old thread and find the link...
    Steeds:
    1)Planet X SL Pro carbon
    2)Nelson Pista Singlespeed
    3)Giant Cadex MTB
    4)BeOne Karma MTB
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    Petromyzon..............Anti........76kg......55.24........Mar........LD.......AP 301W NP 309W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........72kg......56:07.........Mar.......KW.......AP 277W NP 287W
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    mathammond............Anti.........82kg......57:20........Mar.......N/A.......Leisure
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    mroli.......................Anti.........68kg........59.35.......Apr.....N/A..........Sportive/Fitness
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60.20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........91kg......63:35........Mar.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    Greasygrinder.........Anti.........75kg........63.43.......Apr.......KW....Fitness/sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commute
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training

    Ah, really chuffed - took 6 minutes off my time! Perfect conditions tonight - light breeze, no traffic and an Addison Lee cab pulling out on me at Roehampton Car Park to make the blood pump faster.... Was gutted with my previous time and overjoyed to get under the hour.
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    mroli wrote:
    mroli.......................Anti.........68kg........59.35.......Apr.....N/A..........Sportive/Fitness

    Nice! well done for going under the hour! Always good the first time under the hour!
    Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/
  • Fixing the list as mroli wiped out today's efforts by Greasygrinder and myself.

    eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    Petromyzon..............Anti........76kg......55.24........Mar........LD.......AP 301W NP 309W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    mathammond............Anti.........82kg......57:20........Mar.......N/A.......Leisure
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    mroli.......................Anti.........68kg........59.35.......Apr.....N/A..........Sportive/Fitness
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60.20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Greasygrinder..........Clock......75kg.......62:38......Apr........KW.......AP 259
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........91kg......63:35........Mar.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training