Richmond Park 3-lap Challenge 2010

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  • So nice to see the park back to normal. Hope they just forget about the second re-surface unless its like black silk :D Still a bit bumpy, but at the very least solid. Keep an eye on the Black shiny stuff over next couple of hot days.

    Jim, Steve top times with hold ups... starting to feel un-easy about my KW 3LC crown (yes I just made that up) and as for Felgen, well sub 50 is totally within reach.

    Thanks for the cat upgrade Jim, you know they sent me a new Racing Licence within 2 days. Look forward to joining you on one of your crazy breaks. :P
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    felgen wrote:
    I only managed 17mph up Sawyers Hill/quote]

    :o Only!!!!

    You're making me feel older than I already feel! :)
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Absolutely beautiful conditions today, got there about 8pm and conditions seemed to be getting faster lap by lap, ended with easily my quickest of 17:26. Was tempted to stay on for a couple more but the wife would have killed me! Nice to reach the heady heights of 2nd but I'm expecting a lot of quick times this weekend, although traffic was starting to pick up a bit when I left (and note to London Dynamos, if you're going to ride at that speed could you at least make yourselves a little easier to pass?).

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    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    Petromyzon..............Anti........76kg......55.24........Mar........LD.......AP 301W NP 309W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
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  • Arpy
    Arpy Posts: 8
    First crack at 3 laps this year, didn't really make the most of the tailwind up Sawyers Hill today but hopefully after dropping some weight should break the 60 miin barrier this year.


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  • felgen
    felgen Posts: 829
    MatHammond wrote:
    Absolutely beautiful conditions today..... I'm expecting a lot of quick times this weekend, although traffic was starting to pick up a bit when I left (and note to London Dynamos, if you're going to ride at that speed could you at least make yourselves a little easier to pass?).
    lol... not surprised they were too slow for you at that speed! Thats a great effort - a 4 minute improvement is really something to shout about! - do you think you are just a lot fitter or do you think you had the best of the conditions to account for the time?

    Hmmmm..... I could make it out there tomorrow morrning for a pop..... but then I have work in the afternoon.......
    Steeds:
    1)Planet X SL Pro carbon
    2)Nelson Pista Singlespeed
    3)Giant Cadex MTB
    4)BeOne Karma MTB
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    felgen wrote:
    MatHammond wrote:
    Thats a great effort - a 4 minute improvement is really something to shout about! - do you think you are just a lot fitter or do you think you had the best of the conditions to account for the time?

    Bit of both really, conditions definitely better than last effort which was on a pretty windy grey day and later on so a lot more traffic. Fitness actually isn't 100% as I'm carrying an injury from running although it doesn't affect the cycling too much (bit of pain on the 3rd lap but didn't slow me down). I always get better as season goes on and have lost about 5kg since this time last year which seems to have made a huge difference for acceleration out of the corners. Also cycling daily, and training for the marathon (although that's not been so good lately) so big improvements to be expected between my sporadic RP visits! Aiming for sub-50 this year...
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    Little bit of improvement but wasn't that great, hopefully more to come:)

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  • felgen
    felgen Posts: 829
    Petromyzon, thats 40 seconds improvement which is more than a little and a few more watts to boot, so you are going in the right direction - good effort :D .

    I thought about having a go today, but decided better of it as it was a little chilly. I took out my frustrations on my commute to work instead - I was on fire beating my work commute PB by 2 minutes in less favourable conditions, so maybe I should have gone to the park after all...
    Steeds:
    1)Planet X SL Pro carbon
    2)Nelson Pista Singlespeed
    3)Giant Cadex MTB
    4)BeOne Karma MTB
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    Cheers James, had sore muscles despite (because of?) 2 days off the bike, and had too much beer Friday which I always seem to feel for days afterwards as I am weak :lol::lol::lol:

    I am 20 seconds down yet 20W up on my pb of 54.20 or so last year, so just waiting for the right conditions. Are you going for sub 50 this year?
  • Davo4
    Davo4 Posts: 4
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    Another person signing up to the forum to post a time, I guess the bigger the list the better... Pretty nice conditions this morning.
    Petromyzon wrote:
    The tyre situation is frustrating- they can make really quite a big difference but there are only two sources of data to go on, Al Morrison and Tour magazine, one of whom uses Conti's test facilities, carries Conti advertising and ranks Conti really well, whilst one doesn't.

    When one manufacturer probably has a very fast tire there is no economic imperative to distribute it because no-one realises/trusts that it is that good and so asks for it.
    As a newcomer to cycling/time trials it's been hard to work out which tires are a good choice for a time trial situation, as mentioned by Petromyzon above there doesn't seem to be much objective information around - it's all either marketing chat or ridiculous reviews based on 1 person liking/hating whichever one tyre they've used.

    What are the thoughts of people here on a fast rolling clincher for TTs? Names that keep cropping up seem to be Vittoria Open Corsa's, Pro Race 3's, and Continental GP4000s.
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    http://www.biketechreview.com/tires/rol ... oller-data

    Ask 10 people and you'll get 10 answers (a couple of clustered bad experiences on a tire brand can put you off for life) but 23 mm Vittoria Corsas (320tpi ones) with latex tubes is common. Ribble probably cheapest for Vittoria if you buy a pair? PR3 bit slower but tougher?, GP4000s tougher still but bit slower again?, people have told me that their rubber is good in the wet. This is my feeling, not scientifically determined.

    Might be an (aero) benefit in running 21mm on front depending on wheels, course etc. I like the cushy ride of a 25mm on the back because I think being comfy on rough roads helps me find a rhythm.
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    Petromyzon wrote:
    PR3 bit slower but tougher?

    Racing on Maryka's PR3 last week I actually liked it quite a bit, not too sure it's much tougher but it did feel a bit grippier in the wet conditions we had. I think on the performance side they're much of a muchness, I suspect the individual variation in tyres and their wear to be of similar difference as the PR3 / Corsa etc.
    Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/
  • furrag
    furrag Posts: 481
    As a Kingston wheelers (and road cycling!) newbie I decided on a 45 mile ride cycle before setting out, incorporating Richmond Park for 4 laps, and recording the first 3 for this thread. Just as well, as I was blowing out of my arse for the fourth lap which took 28 minutes to go around in!

    Today was also the first ride I did with my saddle at the 'right' height. It was almost alien to me with a new higher centre of gravity. Those crosswinds I could not cope when I got up to high speeds, but on hills especially. I usually go in the mornings, so have to plod along Sawyers hill facing the winds. Along the Kingston Hill side is the steepest hill which curves at the bottom. Does it have a name? I can think of a few choice ones for it this evening! The first wobble I almost stained my chamois! :lol:

    Currently proud owner of the anti-clockwise wooden spoon. 8)

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    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    Furrag....................Anti.........68kg......74:00.........Apr......KW.........Fitness/Fun
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    Welcome Furrag! I call that one Broomfield, getting a nice clear run down there on all three laps is important to a good time, but be careful of the park police and their speed guns in the summer months.

    Jim: yes, I love PR3s and have had good luck with punctures I guess. @robus says that they get sketchy grip-wise when old but I haven't got to that point yet. Perhaps I like the Vittorias slightly more because they are a new toy! I can't tempt you with the Hounslow+District Wheelers Thursday evening 10's can I?
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    Petromyzon wrote:
    I can't tempt you with the Hounslow+District Wheelers Thursday evening 10's can I?

    I do have a plan to spend a lot of time on my TT bike this week - 50km in total ever is not enough before entering an open 10 on saturday. so maybe!

    Edit: But I'll have to make sure I'm slower than 22:30 or I won't be elligible for prizes :)
    Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/
  • felgen
    felgen Posts: 829
    Petromyzon wrote:
    I am 20 seconds down yet 20W up on my pb of 54.20 or so last year, so just waiting for the right conditions.
    Well tarmacexpert keeps running air density calculations etc which I think you can try for yourself by fudging the calculations on the analyticcycling website. You should be able to reverse calculate to work out the effect of the conditions as you have the answer of the equation already (i.e. your average watts). Remember its the traffic as well - I dream of a clear run and I have never done it yet - you have to wait until summer and be in there at 6am for that to happen.
    Petromyzon wrote:
    Are you going for sub 50 this year?
    Yes I am. I hope to make it as I have pretty much given up booze and I am making the best of my commute (very lumpy so lots of short hill intervals). I am waiting for an insurance claim to replace broken wheels, then maybe I can make a concerted effort. In the meantime due to my layoff from racing I will have another go this coming weekend (even though the surrey league has no races this weekend anyway) - conditions can't be any worse than last weekend on my previous attempt - some guy who I caught up to and who took my wheel up sawyers hill couldnt quite fathom why I wouldnt take his in return given the conditions..... :shock:
    Petromyzon wrote:
    23 mm Vittoria Corsas (320tpi ones) with latex tubes is common. Ribble probably cheapest for Vittoria if you buy a pair? PR3 bit slower but tougher?,
    I have vittoria rubino pros on the training/commute wheels - they are lasting very well (2000+miles), though not as quick as the corsas (only 120tpi) and one puncture just after the snow earlier this year. I like PR3's to race on - lovely and smooth ride and they last okayish (about 600miles for a rear with 90kg to contend with), thought I may give the vittorias and latex tubes a go after JibberJim sang their praises to me a couple of weekends ago...

    Where is the Hounslow and Disctrict wheelers thursday 10?
    Steeds:
    1)Planet X SL Pro carbon
    2)Nelson Pista Singlespeed
    3)Giant Cadex MTB
    4)BeOne Karma MTB
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    Cool, you have been mentioned on the Dynamo forum as "riding freakishly fast this season" (or word to that effect;)) so no doubt you'll have a good crack.
    Yes, I have big hopes for the air density reduction:) The need to get a clear run without riding like a plonker is a big limiter- I think I perform slightly better in the evenings although the difference is certainly not large if it exists. I'd like to go sub-53 this year and sub-50 on a road bike before I turn 30.

    http://www.hounslowanddistrictwheelers. ... ces_c.html
    They start pretty much outside St. Peter's Hospital Chertsey. I don't know which direction you live in but if I was coming from Hammersmith as is typical I'd struggle to get there on time- hoping I get sent to Peter's this time next year!
    £2 on the line, spectrum of riders and bike types, friendly and low-key.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    felgen wrote:
    Remember its the traffic as well - I dream of a clear run and I have never done it yet - you have to wait until summer and be in there at 6am for that to happen.

    James - the other option is after 7pm on summer evenings. Suits me because it's after the kids have gone to bed, but my legs seem to prefer it to early mornings (maybe it has something to do with warmer muscles later in the day and all that circadian rhythm stuff).
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • felgen wrote:
    Well tarmacexpert keeps running air density calculations etc which I think you can try for yourself by fudging the calculations on the analyticcycling website.
    I've also recently discovered that rolling resistance is temperature dependent, and is quite a big factor. It changes by 0.6% for every 1F change in temperature, improving with higher temperatures.

    As an example, I did a TT in March this year at 4C and pressure 1031. Last year I did one on what was generally considered a float day in September, at 23C and 1014. I calculate that the difference between the two at my speed/power and with Evo CXs is 31.6W. About 8W of that is the difference in rolling resistance, the rest is the air density.
  • POD1
    POD1 Posts: 15
    eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    mathammond............Anti.........81kg......53:30........Apr.......N/A.......Leisure
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    Petromyzon..............Anti........75kg......54.44........Apr........LD.......AP 306W NP 314W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW......Commuter/Sportive
    Davo4......................Anti.........94kg......58.18........Apr........N/A......1st year tri
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    mroli.......................Anti.........68kg........59.35.......Apr.....N/A..........Sportive/Fitness
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60:20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    POD..............Anti.......86kg....60:47..............Apr......N/A.......Sportive (and the odd race)
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Greasygrinder..........Clock......75kg.......62:38......Apr........KW.......AP 259
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........91kg......63:35........Mar.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    Arpy............................Anti........106kg.......64:20......Apr........N/A.........Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    Furrag....................Anti.........68kg......74:00.........Apr......KW.........Fitness/Fun
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training

    Hmmm, not having been out on the road since last Sept had forgotten how hard an hours time-trialling can seem. I’m absolutely positive that the only reason I didn’t break the hour first time out was because of the wind, cars, deer and nice policemen who made me slow right down on my last lap and not the fact that I’m not fit. Right??
  • Apologies Petromyzon... just swapping our positions - I wanted to maintain my top 5 spot for a bit longer!

    eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    mathammond............Anti.........81kg......53:30........Apr.......N/A.......Leisure
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    Petromyzon..............Anti........75kg......54.44........Apr........LD.......AP 306W NP 314W
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW......Commuter/Sportive
    Davo4......................Anti.........94kg......58.18........Apr........N/A......1st year tri
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    mroli.......................Anti.........68kg........59.35.......Apr.....N/A..........Sportive/Fitness
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60:20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    POD..............Anti.......86kg....60:47..............Apr......N/A.......Sportive (and the odd race)
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Greasygrinder..........Clock......75kg.......62:38......Apr........KW.......AP 259
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........91kg......63:35........Mar.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    Arpy............................Anti........106kg.......64:20......Apr........N/A.........Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    Furrag....................Anti.........68kg......74:00.........Apr......KW.........Fitness/Fun
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training
  • eyepea0
    eyepea0 Posts: 33
    New rules...

    Now I've become a daddy for the second time, my time is more stretched. But for all my RPTLCs there is a clear pattern for my lap times. Lap 2 is about 20 secs slower than first lap, before lift things on last lap to match or slightly beat opening lap. Therefore far less hassle and pain to just do one lap at 3-lap pace and multiply by three and add 20s. Okay with everyone??
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    Damn you Jarvis, you spotted my evil plan (apologies, my bad).

    Congrats on the new baby IP! Can't you just buy a child seat and foster a love for extreme speed on two wheels?
  • Davo4
    Davo4 Posts: 4
    jibberjim wrote:
    Petromyzon wrote:
    PR3 bit slower but tougher?
    Racing on Maryka's PR3 last week I actually liked it quite a bit, not too sure it's much tougher but it did feel a bit grippier in the wet conditions we had. I think on the performance side they're much of a muchness, I suspect the individual variation in tyres and their wear to be of similar difference as the PR3 / Corsa etc.
    Petromyzon wrote:
    http://www.biketechreview.com/tires/rolling-resistance/475-roller-data

    Ask 10 people and you'll get 10 answers (a couple of clustered bad experiences on a tire brand can put you off for life) but 23 mm Vittoria Corsas (320tpi ones) with latex tubes is common. Ribble probably cheapest for Vittoria if you buy a pair? PR3 bit slower but tougher?, GP4000s tougher still but bit slower again?, people have told me that their rubber is good in the wet. This is my feeling, not scientifically determined.
    Thanks, that's pretty much the conclusion I'd come to from trawling the web, so it's good to have it backed up by some more experienced types! Might have to go and have a squiz at the Ribble site then...
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Davo4 wrote:

    What are the thoughts of people here on a fast rolling clincher for TTs? Names that keep cropping up seem to be Vittoria Open Corsa's, Pro Race 3's, and Continental GP4000s.

    I went through the whole "what tyre" scenario recently, I ended up with Vittoria Diamantes, only used them the once so far but they seemed pretty fast but quite a comfortable ride compared to my old GP4000. I was very tempted by Veloflex Black (as in black sidewall - think they are the same as the Paves) which come very highly regarded. In the end I decided they were perhaps not hard wearing enough for what I use them for (combo of sportives, fast training rides, very occasional race or tt) but if I was looking for a "fast rolling clincher for TTs" I would definitely get them. Ken Ellerker bikes in Hull (opposite where my grandma used to live!) had them at a very tempting price.
  • furrag
    furrag Posts: 481
    Petromyzon wrote:
    Welcome Furrag! I call that one Broomfield, getting a nice clear run down there on all three laps is important to a good time, but be careful of the park police and their speed guns in the summer months.
    Cheers fella!

    I'm new to all this bikes with odd shaped handlebars malarkey, and have been visiting Richmond Park every Sunday for the past weeks as I look to build mileage. I shamelessly didn't want to record a time which would have put me right at the bottom. I can handle the penultimate placing! I'm progressing nicely, knocking about 4 minutes off every week.

    86:24
    81:30
    78:13
    74:00

    Regarding the park police, I saw them pull numerous cars up on Sunday evening. I take it they give the cyclists a stern talking to as well?
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    eyepea0 wrote:
    New rules...

    Now I've become a daddy for the second time, my time is more stretched. But for all my RPTLCs there is a clear pattern for my lap times. Lap 2 is about 20 secs slower than first lap, before lift things on last lap to match or slightly beat opening lap. Therefore far less hassle and pain to just do one lap at 3-lap pace and multiply by three and add 20s. Okay with everyone??

    Congrats!
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    theHAIRYleggedONE...Anti.....75kg......52:46.......Apr.....TeamFeat....trigeek
    mathammond............Anti.........81kg......53:30........Apr.......N/A.......Leisure
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    Petromyzon..............Anti........75kg......54.44........Apr........LD.......AP 306W NP 314W
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW......Commuter/Sportive
    Davo4......................Anti.........94kg......58.18........Apr........N/A......1st year tri
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    mroli.......................Anti.........68kg........59.35.......Apr.....N/A..........Sportive/Fitness
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60:20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    POD..............Anti.......86kg....60:47..............Apr......N/A.......Sportive (and the odd race)
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Greasygrinder..........Clock......75kg.......62:38......Apr........KW.......AP 259
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........91kg......63:35........Mar.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    Arpy............................Anti........106kg.......64:20......Apr........N/A.........Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    Furrag....................Anti.........68kg......74:00.........Apr......KW.........Fitness/Fun
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training

    Hey eyepea0, I've heard you get stronger after you've had a little one? Maybe thats just ladies :wink: Congrats!
    Went out this morning with the intention of giving it go. I've clocked a 54 odd early this year but in the wet and with a westerly blow a gale. Again that b!tch of 'northerly' made my life uncomfortable, that and the fact I did it at 7:30! Lots of room for improvement which is one good thing I suppose. 17:43 17:23 17:40

    note to oneself - must learn to get the bearings right, not think it's a westerly when it's actually a northerly wind :wink:
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    edited April 2010
    Minor improvement tonight. Gave it everything on last lap for a PB but way off in the end.


    eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    mathammond............Anti.........80kg......52:28.......Apr......N/A.........Leisure
    theHAIRYleggedONE...Anti.....75kg......52:46.......Apr.....TeamFeat.l
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    Petromyzon..............Anti........75kg......54.44........Apr........LD.......AP 306W NP 314W
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW......Commuter/Sportive
    Davo4......................Anti.........94kg......58.18........Apr........N/A......1st year tri
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    mroli.......................Anti.........68kg........59.35.......Apr.....N/A..........Sportive/Fitness
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60:20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    POD..............Anti.......86kg....60:47..............Apr......N/A.......Sportive (and the odd race)
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Greasygrinder..........Clock......75kg.......62:38......Apr........KW.......AP 259
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........91kg......63:35........Mar.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    Arpy............................Anti........106kg.......64:20......Apr........N/A.........Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    Furrag....................Anti.........68kg......74:00.........Apr......KW.........Fitness/Fun
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Same as Mat. Slightly better, but no PB.

    Really thought I'd break 60 tonight. Conditions were good, but second lap ruined by
    traffic and then a proper stop for the deer. Even without the hold ups, would have
    struggled to get under 61, but soon, very soon !!!!

    eyepea0...................Anti........80kg......50:05........Mar........LD.......1st cat
    mathammond............Anti.........80kg......52:28.......Apr......N/A.........Leisure
    theHAIRYleggedONE...Anti.....75kg......52:46.......Apr.....TeamFeat.l
    JibberJim................. Anti........75kg......54.00........Apr........KW......Cat 3 zero points...AP 316W NP 336W
    mark_d................. ..Anti........61kg......54:38........Mar........LD.......AP 269W NP 276W
    jamesjarvis................Anti........63kg.......54:40........Apr.....................
    Petromyzon..............Anti........75kg......54.44........Apr........LD.......AP 306W NP 314W
    TarmacExpert..........Anti.........71kg......55:06.........Apr.......KW.......AP 286W NP 294W
    SPEEDOboy77..........Anti.........75kg.....55.32.......Apr.........KW.....Cat 3 No Power
    Felgen................Anti.........91kg....55.40.........April.........KW..........2nd cat *ahem*
    Damien Breen..........Anti.......60ishkg....55.48.......Mar........KW......Cat 3
    tomb8555.................Anti.........87kg......55:52........Feb.......TCC......Cat 3
    RedGreenBaron.......Anti.........70kg......56:50........Mar.......LD........Sportive
    JonGinge..................Anti.........67kg......57:33........Jan........KW......Commuter/Sportive
    Davo4......................Anti.........94kg......58.18........Apr........N/A......1st year tri
    stevie becks........Anti..........76kg.......58:30.......Apr.......Sky.......Sportive
    Marko1982...............Anti.........82kg......58:44........Mar........N/A.......Triathlete
    CJCP........................Anti.........83kg......58:45........April........KW.......Commuter/Sportive
    Rushie.....................Anti........77kg......58:46.........Mar.......TCC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Bush75...................Anti........78kg......58:52.........Mar.......LRC.......Sportive/Cat4
    Big Red.....................Anti........97kg......59:34.........Jan.......N/A.......Fitness/Sportive
    mroli.......................Anti.........68kg........59.35.......Apr.....N/A..........Sportive/Fitness
    RHE......................Anti...........91kg........60:20........Apr......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    Il Principe..............Anti.......75kg....60:40..............Mar......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    POD..............Anti.......86kg....60:47..............Apr......N/A.......Sportive (and the odd race)
    Abdoujaparov..........Anti.........76kg......60.53........Feb........?...........Fitness/sportive
    greeny12..............Anti........87kg......60.57........Mar........N/A.......Fitness/sportive
    Cumulonimbus.........Anti.........85kg.......62.32.......Apr....................Fitness
    Greasygrinder..........Clock......75kg.......62:38......Apr........KW.......AP 259
    Flix23.......................Anti.........77kg.......62.50.......Feb.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    TheStone.................Anti.........90kg......63:27........Apr.......N/A......Fitness/Sportive
    London-red...............Anti.........83kg......63:58........Jan........N/A.......Fitness
    Arpy............................Anti........106kg.......64:20......Apr........N/A.........Fitness
    toontra.......................Anti.........75kg......64.57.........Mar......N/A........Audax
    pangolin....................Anti.........89kg......65:00.........Apr......N/A.......Fitness/Commuter
    LFCQuin...................Anti.........82kg......66:00........Jan.......MW........Cat 3/Core
    Grrram....................Anti.........83kg......66:10........Jan.......none........Fitness/Sportive
    biondino..................Anti.........80kg........66.15.......Feb.......n/a..........commuter
    Ketsbaia................Clock.........76kg.......67.28........Mar.......n/a.....Fitness/sportive
    BCSS.....................Anti..........75kg......68.24........Jan......NA...........Will I ever be fast?
    KingstonGraham.....Anti.........74kg......68:39........Jan.......NA........Triathlete
    Il Principe..............Anti.......dunno....68:57......Feb......NA.......Commuter/Sportive
    G-Wiz..............Anti.......100kg....69:05......Apr......NA.......Fitness/Sportive
    jrduquemin...........Clock......79kg......69:07........Jan.......None.......Fitness/Sportive
    Guinea.....................Anti........89kg......71.11........Mar........none.........Fun
    MattM78..................Anti........89kg.......73.24.........Feb....SWRC....Commuter/sportive/tri
    Furrag....................Anti.........68kg......74:00.........Apr......KW.........Fitness/Fun
    NWLondoner...........Clock......61kg......77.56........Jan........??.........Fitness/Training
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