240 miles in 9 hours.
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I ran an audax at the weekend, which went through Bath
413km (256 miles) with 3300m of climbing
A former 24 hour time trial champ was second in with a time of under 20 hours
The first group back did it in 19 hours
Ok, so they stopped for food. But even so, for comparisons this is a more realistic time for this kind of distance.
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Sounds like he's maybe getting there slowly, but 100 miles in 4h56 minutes isn't exactly exceptional given that you would assume that he'd be slower on the 2nd 100 miles. Finding 2-3mph in only a couple of months is going to take some doing....More problems but still living....0
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Basics: average speed for Tour de France is around 40kmh.
240miles in 9 hours equates to around 42- 43 kmh over a longer distance with no Peloton and no drafting.
No disrespect to your aims but good luck!0 -
amaferanga wrote:Sounds like he's maybe getting there slowly, but 100 miles in 4h56 minutes isn't exactly exceptional given that you would assume that he'd be slower on the 2nd 100 miles. Finding 2-3mph in only a couple of months is going to take some doing....
That sort of speed isn't bad over 105(?) miles. But I'd want to be doing that on the TT bike with no aero kit to be sure.
Good luck and keep training!Jeff Jones
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I rode out along the A4 from Reading to Hungerford and back on Sunday. Saw a guy on a Cervelo with aero bars, heading west as I was coming back.
Anyway, I get out of Reading by heading south over the M4 to Shinfield, 3 Mile Cross, and round the lanes to Theale, then I pick up the A4.
Just curious as to the route through Reading. I can't see how following the A4 would not lead to massive dealys - there are loads and loads of traffic lights and the centre can be quite busy along the London Road.Le Blaireau (1)0 -
Im really enjoying the blog. Good to see a normal bloke having a crack at something.
Its a shame about the warm up attempt being a bit slower than you were expecting, but keep training hard and with the added big day adrenaline and focus etc you should be able to post a big improvement.
I still think some form of traffic light management/strategy would be massively helpful!http://www.ledomestiquetours.co.uk
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vorsprung wrote:I ran an audax at the weekend, which went through Bath
413km (256 miles) with 3300m of climbing
How long did it take you? :twisted:0 -
ThreeLionsBrian wrote:vorsprung wrote:I ran an audax at the weekend, which went through Bath
413km (256 miles) with 3300m of climbing
How long did it take you? :twisted:
Bet it took him 8 hours and 66 mins.0 -
Can i just point out something here.
The original poster has as much chance of challenging this record as I have of getting my hands on a German coloured vuvuzela to bait my neighbours with for Sundays game.
The London to Bath and Back Record was set in 81 when John Woodburn was training for an assualt on the End to End Record. At that point he was already a many times national champion over the various RTTC distances and stood a pretty good chance of succeeding.
I note that you do not posses the same palmares as the legend that is Mr Woodburn and therefore can only conclude that you will not break this record. Additionally the route will be significantly different to back in 81 due to the development of the roads meaning that they are less direct than the record.
My plea is simple - I admire your courage and charitable nature of this attempt, but please do not submit this to the RRA if you are not in the correct shooting lane.
The RRA is funded by donations from traditional cycling clubs and book sales and is an entirely voluntary group and submitting an attempt will mean that many volunteers will be put out to observe an attempt with no hope to much inconvieience and expense.
The last riders to submit an RRA attempt were Ms Romero and Mr J Cracknell again athletes with a higher level of prowess of your own judging from you blog.
If you were up to the standard then i would support you.0 -
Yep, James Cracknell had all sorts of cycling competition records to his name.0
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Pross wrote:Yep, James Cracknell had all sorts of cycling competition records to his name.
No, but he did have one or two ultra-endurance records to his name, and the odd Olympic gold record... Does say something of the calibre of the man, no?Cannondale Synapse 105, Giant Defy 3, Giant Omnium, Giant Trance X2, EMC R1.0, Ridgeback Platinum, On One Il Pompino...0 -
Pross wrote:Yep, James Cracknell had all sorts of cycling competition records to his name.
I think you'll find he had a decent motor inside him as honed and tested at the EIS..0 -
He also didnt have too much problem riding up Ventoux in the Etape either, so I suspect they had a good idea how well he was going to go.
I'm in agreement with other here though, chapeau to the charitable efforts and all that but I wouldnt bother the RRA with it... an extra 2-3 miles an hour over that distance is a helluva lot, laws of diminishing returns n all that0 -
TommyEss wrote:Pross wrote:Yep, James Cracknell had all sorts of cycling competition records to his name.
No, but he did have one or two ultra-endurance records to his name, and the odd Olympic gold record... Does say something of the calibre of the man, no?
Yes, but no more bike pedigree than the guy looking to do this record. The implication here is that unless you have other previous records to your name or are an ex-Olympian then don't bother trying. The OP has admitted that it's going to be tough and he doesn't know if he can make it but why all the negativity towards him? One thing's for sure he certainly won't break the record sat on his arse watching TV so good on him for getting out there and at least giving it a go. Personally I hope he does it or at least gets close to see some humble pie getting eaten around here.0 -
Have I missed something in the last 13 pages? I thought it was just going to be "shavedlegs" trying to get from point A to point B in 9 hours. When did it turn into
an attempt at some record??? My apologies if I have missed something. Old age you know.0 -
Pross wrote:[
Personally I hope he does it or at least gets close to see some humble pie getting eaten around here.
There's a 12 hour trophy on my mantle piece with Mr Woodburns name on it 5 Times
The 1981 figure is 269.479 Miles thats 22.4 mph
10 years later aged 50 + he posted the same distance
The candiate here has posted just under evens for 100 miles.
He'd have to be posting in the region of 4.20 for 100 consitently in open TT's for this to be remotley realistic. From what i have read Banjo and Barn door spring to mind.
Don't take my comments as negative, Woodburn broke Les Wests existing record by just 4 minutes and he rates this as one of his best ever performances .I
just wish people would have respect for what they are taking on themselves and for the pain and class of the athlete required to set an RRA record.
I expect that there are around 10 riders in the country at the moment who could break this record and the original poster (sadly) is not one of them...0 -
Tester.
I suggest your ire is directed towards:
- The 10 or so riders in this country who you think could break this record but cant be bothered to spend the time and effort making the attempt.
- The RRA for letting respect for tradition get in the way of updating rules and regulations to make challenges like this relevant to today's traffic conditions.
Otherwise records like London-Bath will become quaint artifacts of cycling history known only to a few old farts which imo will be a damn shame.
In the meantime. Like you I doubt the record attempt will succeed but nonetheless think it should be welcomed.
What cannot be doubted is the preparation and commitment that have gone into this effort. If it fails it will only go to show just how great an achievement Woodburn's was and put into context for today's riders. His name is already known to more people following this thread which can only be a good thing.
It may also encourage others to have a go.Martin S. Newbury RC0 -
bahzob wrote:Tester.
I suggest your ire is directed towards:
- The 10 or so riders in this country who you think could break this record but cant be bothered to spend the time and effort making the attempt.
- The RRA for letting respect for tradition get in the way of updating rules and regulations to make challenges like this relevant to today's traffic conditions.
Otherwise records like London-Bath will become quaint artifacts of cycling history known only to a few old farts which imo will be a damn shame.
In the meantime. Like you I doubt the record attempt will succeed but nonetheless think it should be welcomed.
What cannot be doubted is the preparation and commitment that have gone into this effort. If it fails it will only go to show just how great an achievement Woodburn's was and put into context for today's riders. His name is already known to more people following this thread which can only be a good thing.
It may also encourage others to have a go.
Very rare to see so much sense written in one post.
You're absolutely spot on, on every point you make imho.0 -
dennisn wrote:Have I missed something in the last 13 pages? I thought it was just going to be "shavedlegs" trying to get from point A to point B in 9 hours. When did it turn into
an attempt at some record??? My apologies if I have missed something. Old age you know.
and yeah baby .. can we call it a "world record" attempt?
bit difficult for Dennis to have a go in Ohio, thenMy pen won't write on the screen0 -
Thick Tester wrote:Can i just point out something here.
The original poster has as much chance of challenging this record as I have of getting my hands on a German coloured vuvuzela to bait my neighbours with for Sundays game.
The London to Bath and Back Record was set in 81 when John Woodburn was training for an assualt on the End to End Record. At that point he was already a many times national champion over the various RTTC distances and stood a pretty good chance of succeeding.
I note that you do not posses the same palmares as the legend that is Mr Woodburn and therefore can only conclude that you will not break this record. Additionally the route will be significantly different to back in 81 due to the development of the roads meaning that they are less direct than the record.
My plea is simple - I admire your courage and charitable nature of this attempt, but please do not submit this to the RRA if you are not in the correct shooting lane.
The RRA is funded by donations from traditional cycling clubs and book sales and is an entirely voluntary group and submitting an attempt will mean that many volunteers will be put out to observe an attempt with no hope to much inconvieience and expense.
The last riders to submit an RRA attempt were Ms Romero and Mr J Cracknell again athletes with a higher level of prowess of your own judging from you blog.
If you were up to the standard then i would support you.
Being from "'over here" instead of "over there" I'm not sure how this RTCC & RRA work, but if, as said, they are strictly volunteers then I would urge all these people who are chiming in and complaining about "shavedlegs" not being given a shot at whatever record this is, to get their butts out there and stand along the route for 12 hours instead of complaining. And get your butts out there for ANYONE who wants to attempt ANY record, at ANY time. How does that sound to you???0 -
Here's one, dennisn. I've been lurking on this thread (and on shavedlegs' blog) for a while, and I think this attempt is quite inspirational. Regardless of whether it turns out to be successful in setting a new record or not. I totally agree with bahzob - attempts like this will either set a new record or alternatively raise awareness of just how good a record it already is.
Partly as a result of following this thread, I've joined the RRA, and would be more than happy to be a checker in the Bath area. And yes, dennisn, a checker for anyone else who wants to attempt a record like this, because I believe that no-one is going to do that without a tremendous amount of dedication.0 -
tjhooker wrote:Here's one, dennisn. I've been lurking on this thread (and on shavedlegs' blog) for a while, and I think this attempt is quite inspirational. Regardless of whether it turns out to be successful in setting a new record or not. I totally agree with bahzob - attempts like this will either set a new record or alternatively raise awareness of just how good a record it already is.
Partly as a result of following this thread, I've joined the RRA, and would be more than happy to be a checker in the Bath area. And yes, dennisn, a checker for anyone else who wants to attempt a record like this, because I believe that no-one is going to do that without a tremendous amount of dedication.
Great, cycling needs all the volunteers it can find. Only problem is you may find that because one person did this, that a whole bunch of other people are going to want to
try it , simply because, well, you did it for him, now what about me. Even though these people aren't in the least bit able to come close to this record, you'll be out there????
It's a waste of time, effort, manpower, money, you name it. Peoples time would be better spent organizing and running races that cater to a few more people, instead of some lone attempt at a record that the person involved simply can't do.0 -
I just don't believe that will happen. It's a big investment just to attempt something like this. There's a lot of preparation involved - not just the training, but preparation for the actual record - following car, schedule, etc. I don't think that we're all of a sudden going to be inundated with random nutjobs thinking they can break 44 hours for the end-to-end and suchlike.
I'm also sure, from what he's written so far, that shavedlegs has no intention of attempting this without a certain level of confidence in his ability to do it. Obviously the only way to know for sure is to actually do the ride.0 -
freehub wrote:ThreeLionsBrian wrote:vorsprung wrote:I ran an audax at the weekend, which went through Bath
413km (256 miles) with 3300m of climbing
How long did it take you? :twisted:
Bet it took him 8 hours and 66 mins.
I rode the route the weekend before the event to check the directions on the sheet
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If anyone in East London wants to get involved in volunteering, the time trial and road racing scence are always short of people to do sign-on, marshall, run the cake stall etc. Refreshments included, and you never know, someone might break a record?!"And the Lord said unto Cain, 'where is Abel thy brother?' And he said, 'I know not: I dropped him on the climb up to the motorway bridge'."
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It looks like the notice has been submitted to the RRA. Good luck Alex! I hope you get some good weather for the 1st August.0
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Quite exciting not long to go now, although the website says the 2nd but I'm sure it'll be on Sunday 1st. Let us know how you are doing. When did/do you start your taper? All the best0
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indeed, good luck mate, i hope you do it lol!best bike: raleigh avanti U6 carbon comp
10m tt pb:23:42.
25m tt pb: 1h 2min( only done 2)0