Di Luca positive for CERA in Giro d'Italia
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iainf72 wrote:donrhummy wrote:I just don't get this?! He KNEW they were now testing for CERA and had just caught a TON of guys with it, why the heck would he take it?! Stupid.
Because he'd been taking it for ages without getting caught?
I said at the time that I had little faith in his riding and that every May sees the Festival of Doping. 2009 has proved to be no exception.0 -
afx237vi wrote:Moray Gub wrote:afx237vi wrote:This makes me oddly happy. Guess I was right all along when I called his performances "ridiculous" in the Giro.
Not really becuae iirc your "ridculous" claims were relating to his climbing ability, so not that ridiculous at the time.
Eh? Where do you think he got his climbing ability from?
The point is he had always been a half decent climberGasping - but somehow still alive !0 -
SpaceJunk wrote:JC.152 wrote:donrhummy wrote:HEY, this means Sastre made another GT podium!!
it'll probably be another rebellin as di luca's test was from 07? not 09 and so they cant kick him out...
...yet :twisted:
Cycling news saying tests from:
he UCI announced Wednesday that it has suspended Italian Danilo Di Luca for two positive tests for the EPO derivative CERA. The LPR Brakes rider's doping control samples showed evidence of the banned blood booster on two occasions - on May 20 and 28th during the 2009 Giro d'Italia.
oops i read the ilailian newspapers story as it being from 07 :oops:0 -
What really does my swede in is the Eurosport commentary which just broke the news along the lines of 'Di Luca has tested positive for CERA at the Giro... well, that's another race so never mind'. FFS...0
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Moray Gub wrote:afx237vi wrote:Moray Gub wrote:afx237vi wrote:This makes me oddly happy. Guess I was right all along when I called his performances "ridiculous" in the Giro.
Not really becuae iirc your "ridculous" claims were relating to his climbing ability, so not that ridiculous at the time.
Eh? Where do you think he got his climbing ability from?
The point is he had always been a half decent climber
And in all probability he's always been a doper.0 -
Unbelievable. I just wonder how he thought he wouldn't get caught. Was he microdosing or trying to do anything clever? New variety of CERA or something?0
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Why taint this TdF with going on about it? Announce the news then carry on with this race.
What do you want them to do?
If someone tests positive in this TdF then fair enough.0 -
calvjones wrote:Moray Gub wrote:afx237vi wrote:RichN95 wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Time for an avatar change. The joke has become reality.
May I suggest Kloden
Menchov.
Wiggins
May I be permitted a :roll: at this point Moray?
Well whats good for one is good for another eh, you see thats the problem thats been created by flinging around ludicrous accusations. So Brad sorry mate but your perfomances while great to see are very suspiciousGasping - but somehow still alive !0 -
Anyone surprised?0
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UCI Press release:Danilo Di Luca provisionally suspended
Earlier today, the UCI advised Italian rider Danilo Di Luca that he is provisionally suspended. The decision to provisionally suspend Mr Di Luca was made in response to a report from the WADA accredited laboratory in Paris indicating an Adverse Analytical Finding of Recombinant EPO (CERA) in blood samples collected from him at the Giro d’Italia on 20 May and 28 May 2009.
These adverse findings were a direct result of a targeted test programme conducted on Mr Di Luca using information from his biological passport’s blood profile, previous test results and his race schedule.
The provisional suspension of Mr Di Luca remains in force until a hearing panel convened by the Italian Cycling Federation determines whether he has indeed committed an anti-doping rule violation under Article 21 of the UCI Anti-Doping Rules.
Mr Di Luca has the right to request and attend the analyses of both his B samples.
Under the World Anti-Doping Code and the UCI Anti-Doping Rules, the UCI is unable to provide any additional information at this time.0 -
He was a half decent climber in the way Bettini was a half decent climber. He could motor up sprinter hills, great on the steep stuff, fair to middling on the high passes, then his style of riding completely changed. Suddenly he was attacking like Charley Gaul."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Why is wiggins very suspicious?
He has never had previous links with doping and he is an incredibly powerful rider (Olympic pursuit champion?) who has lost a shed load of weight...0 -
afx237vi wrote:And in all probability he's always been a doper.
This isn't to say he's a nasty guy or a boring rider, he raised a lot for the L'Aquila earthquake victims in the Giro and his attacks livened up many a finish. But that's not the point, he's been busted for cheating and good riddance.0 -
Moray Gub wrote:Well whats good for one is good for another eh, you see thats the problem thats been created by flinging around ludicrous accusations. So Brad sorry mate but your perfomances while great to see are very suspicious
Do you actually believe what you write or do you just enjoy being deliberately obtuse?
If you really can't see the difference between DDL, Kloden and Wiggins, then I truly give up.0 -
If I may add to Nap D's list, he rides on a team with a public and rigorous anti-doping system who also didn't employ Pettachi and Savoldelli"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
@gietvangent0 -
NapoleonD wrote:Why is wiggins very suspicious?
He has never had previous links with doping and he is an incredibly powerful rider (Olympic pursuit champion?) who has lost a shed load of weight...
Two reasons he rode for Cofidis so the assocation angle that others are accused of kicks in here and
secondly he is climbing like Bernard Kohl last year ,this depspite never having shown anything like this before. For whats its worth i dont think he is doping but we cant have it both ways hereGasping - but somehow still alive !0 -
No TOB for DDL this year then?Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34335188@N07/3336802663/0 -
Moray Gub wrote:NapoleonD wrote:Why is wiggins very suspicious?
He has never had previous links with doping and he is an incredibly powerful rider (Olympic pursuit champion?) who has lost a shed load of weight...
Two reasons he rode for Cofidis so the assocation angle that others are accused of kicks in here and
secondly he is climbing like Bernard Kohl last year ,this depspite never having shown anything like this before. For whats its worth i dont think he is doping but we cant have it both ways here
wiggins was climbing this well (or similer in the giro) unlike kohl who did come form nowhere0 -
NapoleonD wrote:Why taint this TdF with going on about it? Announce the news then carry on with this race.
What do you want them to do?
If someone tests positive in this TdF then fair enough.
Does it really not bother you that a former Giro winner tests positive at another Giro where he finished on the podium? It does me, and I would have thought it warranted something a bit more critical than 'ah well, never mind', irrespective of the fact we're watching the TdF and it happened two months ago.0 -
Yes, it really does bother me, it really p1sses me off! But, there is another race to talk about at the moment.0
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di Luca was rumoured to be in talks with Sky. Is he the one Brailsfod say he saw the passport of and said no way.?0
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Tusher wrote:Anyone surprised?
Yeah actually I'm quite surprised he got caught. Di Luca's 'family doctor' (Carlo Santuccione aka Ali the chemist) knew Danilo was being targeted so they really screwed things up at some point.
For disgruntledgoat, I still think Di Luca was a much better climber than Bettini from the word go. Danilo's 1st giro (2000) was impressive and he won his 1st mountain stage in 2001.0 -
BdeB
Quite possible......0 -
Not a surprise, would just be nice if he stays caught, and doesn't come back like after his previous infringements. Also just goes to prove even further, that even nice guys dope, before we start going down that debate again!0
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But we've had no positives at the Tour (yet). I wonder if there will be the same pattern as the Giro: positives after the fact?0
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If Garzelli gets away unscathed, then he is luckier than the pirate! Or better connected.0