Cavendish "racist"

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  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    F*cking French always on strike. Bolloxed my hols twice with their sodding blockades of harbours.

    Wouldn't happen in blighty you know.
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    VerwoodAsh wrote:
    Perhaps it is to get some column inches on what has actually been a quiet tour so far.
    Perhaps it's because Cavendish has been mouthing off. Hard to believe I know... :roll:
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    Gazzaputt wrote:
    F*cking French always on strike. Bolloxed my hols twice with their sodding blockades of harbours. Wouldn't happen in blighty you know.
    No 'Airstrip One' is too much of a right-wing, authoritarian dictatorship to ever let that happen...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLirqfg36c8
  • flattythehurdler
    flattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
    I think the title of this thread is disgraceful, and the thread should be locked and deleted.
    Dan
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    aurelio wrote:
    Gazzaputt wrote:
    F*cking French always on strike. Bolloxed my hols twice with their sodding blockades of harbours. Wouldn't happen in blighty you know.
    No 'Airstrip One' is too much of a right-wing, authoritarian dictatorship to ever let that happen...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLirqfg36c8

    Unlike the nice, tolerant left-wing paradise over the Channel, where that lovely man Mr Le Pen is soooo popular.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    flattythehurdler wrote:
    I think the title of this thread is disgraceful, and the thread should be locked and deleted.
    Haven't you noticed the parentheses in the title?

    If you just want to close down the debate regardless, perhaps you should ponder for a moment on where such attitudes can lead....

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  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    DaveyL wrote:
    aurelio wrote:
    Gazzaputt wrote:
    F*cking French always on strike. Bolloxed my hols twice with their sodding blockades of harbours. Wouldn't happen in blighty you know.
    No 'Airstrip One' is too much of a right-wing, authoritarian dictatorship to ever let that happen...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLirqfg36c8
    Unlike the nice, tolerant left-wing paradise over the Channel, where that lovely man Mr Le Pen is soooo popular.
    So popular that he was voted the most hated person in France a couple of years ago...

    Perhaps you should take a look at the rising support for the BNP in the UK, not forgetting that the main reason the BNP hasn't gained more votes in the past is that the mainstream parties in the UK, especially the Tories, have always ensured that they pander sufficiently to the 'send them home' brigade in order to stop votes drifting to the BNP.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    The BNP would kill for those popularity numbers. 22% ?

    "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Marie_Le_Pen

    Le Pen remains a polarizing figure in France and opinions regarding him tend to be quite strong. A 2002 IPSOS poll showed that while 22 percent of the electorate have a good or very good opinion of Le Pen, and 13 percent an unfavorable opinion, 61 percent have a very unfavorable opinion.[8]"
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    aurelio wrote:
    So popular that he was voted the most hated person in France a couple of years ago...

    He came second in the Presidential elections in 2002. I guess a few people must like him. :roll:
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • camerone
    camerone Posts: 1,232
    aurelio wrote:
    flattythehurdler wrote:
    I think the title of this thread is disgraceful, and the thread should be locked and deleted.
    Haven't you noticed the parentheses in the title?

    If you just want to close down the debate regardless, perhaps you should ponder for a moment on where such attitudes can lead....

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    yep, call someone a frenchie and the next step is turning into a nazi. ffs really
  • robmanic1
    robmanic1 Posts: 2,150
    Always ends-up with a reference to Nazi Germany when a thread starts like this one. For what it's worth, I actually met only really friendly French people when I visited, "cheese eating surrender monkey" comment was clearly only a dig at our preconceptions of them and in no way intended as a slight on a nation. Still, I suppose Hitler did much the same thing. :roll:

    Did find Cav's comment after yesterday's stage cringeworthy, when confronted by the Eurosport reporter about how people had suggested the up-hill sprint wouldn't suit him, his retort of "who said that, foreign internet people?" Oh dear.
    Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/34335188@N07/3336802663/
  • camerone
    camerone Posts: 1,232
    aurelio, i realise your previous post was about censorship not frenchie phrase - ignore post and apologies...
  • Stuey01
    Stuey01 Posts: 1,273
    Robmanic1 wrote:
    Always ends-up with a reference to Nazi Germany when a thread starts like this one. For what it's worth, I actually met only really friendly French people when I visited, "cheese eating surrender monkey" comment was clearly only a dig at our preconceptions of them and in no way intended as a slight on a nation. Still, I suppose Hitler did much the same thing. :roll:

    Did find Cav's comment after yesterday's stage cringeworthy, when confronted by the Eurosport reporter about how people had suggested the up-hill sprint wouldn't suit him, his retort of "who said that, foreign internet people?" Oh dear.

    He said forum. Not foreign, FORUM.
    Not climber, not sprinter, not rouleur
  • camerone
    camerone Posts: 1,232
    Robmanic1 wrote:
    Always ends-up with a reference to Nazi Germany when a thread starts like this one. For what it's worth, I actually met only really friendly French people when I visited, "cheese eating surrender monkey" comment was clearly only a dig at our preconceptions of them and in no way intended as a slight on a nation. Still, I suppose Hitler did much the same thing. :roll:

    Did find Cav's comment after yesterday's stage cringeworthy, when confronted by the Eurosport reporter about how people had suggested the up-hill sprint wouldn't suit him, his retort of "who said that, foreign internet people?" Oh dear.

    he said FORUM internet peaple
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Robmanic1 wrote:
    Always ends-up with a reference to Nazi Germany when a thread starts like this one. For what it's worth, I actually met only really friendly French people when I visited, "cheese eating surrender monkey" comment was clearly only a dig at our preconceptions of them and in no way intended as a slight on a nation. Still, I suppose Hitler did much the same thing. :roll:

    Did find Cav's comment after yesterday's stage cringeworthy, when confronted by the Eurosport reporter about how people had suggested the up-hill sprint wouldn't suit him, his retort of "who said that, foreign internet people?" Oh dear.

    No, he said "internet forum people?"
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • robmanic1
    robmanic1 Posts: 2,150
    Well that's just "forumist", I'm disgusted by it!

    note to self, listen more carefully in future
    Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/34335188@N07/3336802663/
  • RichN95.
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  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Robmanic1 wrote:
    Well that's just "forumist", I'm disgusted by it!

    note to self, listen more carefully in future

    easily done. First time i heard it I thought he'd said "Internet phone people" and thought "WTF??? Someone dope test that man now". Internet forum people makes a bit more sense.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    DaveyL wrote:
    The BNP would kill for those popularity numbers. 22% ?
    Le Pen got just 10% of the votes in the first round of the 2007 Presidential elections. You also need to consider that in France the various parties represent very different political positions. In France the far right-wing loonies vote for Le Pen and their influence remains very much on the margins of politics. In Britain, pretty far-right policies are firmly embodied in the mainstream political parties, both the NLP and the Tories. Also, in Britain there is no credible left wing alternative on offer whilst in France the Socialist party, along with a whole raft of other hard-left parties, provide a counter to the right. Amongst working people the French Socialist Party gained 58% of the Presidential vote and one of the policies Royal was promoting was the 'naturalisation' of illegal immigrants in France. (I.e. granting them legal status). I can't imagine that being a popular policy in the Daily Mail and Sun reading UK!
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    A big contrast to 2002 then?
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    DaveyL wrote:
    A big contrast to 2002 then?
    The 2002 first round 'success' of le Pen was very much a protest vote.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Of course it was. A bit like the BNP over here then?
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Another poor attempt, vile racism (clearly) very poorly disguised as humour

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrFa51JU3sM

    :wink:
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Don't you just love the internet? We started with a silly comment that may or may not have been said by a young cyclist who may or may not have intended offence, and who may or may not have revealed attitudes that may or may not be racist as a consequence.

    And we wind up with sweeping generalisations, based on selected statistics supported by questionable logic, as to which entire nation is more right wing (ie bad) than the other.

    In other words, just like any other internet forum. Not long before someone gets compared to Hitler (oh sorry, that's already happened here) and links to Rick Astley vids.
    I know this shouldn't depress me like it does, but I somehow expected better from a cyclists' forum. Silly, naive me.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Uh oh, Dad's turned up to give us all a ticking off.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • Stuey01
    Stuey01 Posts: 1,273
    bompington wrote:
    Don't you just love the internet? We started with a silly comment that may or may not have been said by a young cyclist who may or may not have intended offence, and who may or may not have revealed attitudes that may or may not be racist as a consequence.

    And we wind up with sweeping generalisations, based on selected statistics supported by questionable logic, as to which entire nation is more right wing (ie bad) than the other.

    In other words, just like any other internet forum. Not long before someone gets compared to Hitler (oh sorry, that's already happened here) and links to Rick Astley vids.
    I know this shouldn't depress me like it does, but I somehow expected better from a cyclists' forum. Silly, naive me.

    Are cyclists not people too? Cyclicist!
    Not climber, not sprinter, not rouleur
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    bompington wrote:
    ...and links to Rick Astley vids.
    ?????
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    aurelio wrote:
    bompington wrote:
    ...and links to Rick Astley vids.
    ?????
    I may be "dad" but I'm obviously more up to date with some internet memes than some people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    DaveyL wrote:
    Of course it was. A bit like the BNP over here then?
    Not quite. In France they were expressing their disaffection with politics and politicians in general. In the UK the 'protest vote' for the BNP seems to be about people expressing their view that the mainstream right-wing parties in the UK are not right wing enough!
  • Stuey01
    Stuey01 Posts: 1,273
    aurelio wrote:
    DaveyL wrote:
    Of course it was. A bit like the BNP over here then?
    Not quite. In France they were expressing their disaffection with politics and politicians in general. In the UK the 'protest vote' for the BNP seems to be about people expressing their view that the mainstream right-wing parties in the UK are not right wing enough!

    What?! The BNP vote in the UK was almost completely because people are/were hacked off with all the major parties sleaze, expenses scandals and generally being a right bunch of bast@rds. Completely due to "disaffection with politics and politicians in general".
    Not climber, not sprinter, not rouleur

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