Stage 12 *spoiler*

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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Leipheimer will have to go "out of character" and de-suck, to go on the attack; still a major threat.

    Can't he just keep on sucking - making sure not to lose any more time now until the final TT and try and claw the seconds back then? It's within his power to pull back 24 seconds on the Mench...
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    The big question is, how much in common do they have with cycling's last Cobra?
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Pokerface wrote:
    Leipheimer will have to go "out of character" and de-suck, to go on the attack; still a major threat.

    Can't he just keep on sucking - making sure not to lose any more time now until the final TT and try and claw the seconds back then? It's within his power to pull back 24 seconds on the Mench...

    It's only 14.4 km though...
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    Leipheimer won't get 40 seconds on Menchov in 14 km. If Rabobank let a break-away of no-threats get 20 minutes every stage, and stays in Di Lucas wheel during the longer climbs, he can even affor dto lose a few seconds in Bologna.
  • Quite Frankly
    Quite Frankly Posts: 386
    Jose Serpa in 5th overall at this point!. How do I do a raised eyebrow?

    Finished 9th in the end. Definitely the surprise of the day for me.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    afx237vi wrote:
    Pokerface wrote:
    Leipheimer will have to go "out of character" and de-suck, to go on the attack; still a major threat.

    Can't he just keep on sucking - making sure not to lose any more time now until the final TT and try and claw the seconds back then? It's within his power to pull back 24 seconds on the Mench...

    It's only 14.4 km though...

    I thought it was 16KM? Levi pulled out 34 seconds on the Mench in the final TT last year, but over 28.8KM. Could be very close....

    EDIT - I thought it was only 24 seconds. No way he's pulling back 40.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Pokerface wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    It's only 14.4 km though...

    I thought it was 16KM? Levi pulled out 34 seconds on the Mench in the final TT last year, but over 28.8KM. Could be very close....

    EDIT - I thought it was only 24 seconds. No way he's pulling back 40.

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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    afx237vi wrote:

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    Shows you can't trust this website!

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  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    In the final TT (which is a real TT), Levi's probably going to pull back 15 seconds or so. But I don't see how he's going to get the extra time before that. Even if Lance gives him the ride of his life up the mountains, who here thinks Levi could follow that and Danilo/Menchov couldn't?
  • pb21
    pb21 Posts: 2,171
    Can anyone see Lancetana sending Armstrong and/or Popovych up the road in a few days trying to get in some breaks. The other teams will be forced to chase them down being only 6 mins downs, could they get away?
    Mañana
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    So the Di Luca bashers have gone silent, or are do you just select what fits your opinion?
    Contador is the Greatest
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    He still has no credibility.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    So the Di Luca bashers have gone silent, or are do you just select what fits your opinion?

    My opinion of him hasn't changed.
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    iainf72 wrote:
    Poor old Mick Rogers.

    3 times world TT champ, eh? What on earth is missing now...


    A normal ITT course? :)
  • le_patron
    le_patron Posts: 494
    I know it's largely irrelevant, how do you think AC would have fared yesterday ?
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    le patron wrote:
    I know it's largely irrelevant, how do you think AC would have fared yesterday ?

    He probably would have won. Climbing and TT ability all rolled into one. Would have been hard to beat.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    edited May 2009
    Pokerface wrote:
    le patron wrote:
    I know it's largely irrelevant, how do you think AC would have fared yesterday ?

    He probably would have won. Climbing and TT ability all rolled into one. Would have been hard to beat.

    Agreed. Contador is the GT king.

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    So the Di Luca bashers have gone silent, or are do you just select what fits your opinion?
    We can't bash him all day every day for fear of becoming a one trick pony cum stuck record like aurelio.

    He's still got a long, long way to go before he has a modicum of credibility. I doubt he gives a toss though, as he's made a fortune out of cycling his way.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    According to the 'doping police' on this forum, Di Luca is on drugs due to his performances. Therefore it is entirely natural that you should comment on his performance yesterday, demonstrating how it shows drug use, especially given that it is a TT. Or is it that the performance yesterday was not as good as it should have been if he was doping?
    Contador is the Greatest
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    According to the 'doping police' on this forum, Di Luca is on drugs due to his performances. Therefore it is entirely natural that you should comment on his performance yesterday, demonstrating how it shows drug use, especially given that it is a TT. Or is it that the performance yesterday was not as good as it should have been if he was doping?

    No, people suspect Di Luca due to his past combined with his performances.

    In the first TT in the Tour last year, Kohl lost 1:47 over 29km. And he was doping as we know.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    FF, This

    http://cyclingfansanonymous.blogspot.co ... y-oil.html

    is why people on here don't think much of DDL.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    How many times have we had that link posted, now?
    Can't be anybody left out there who isn't aware of his connections by now.

    So, Is DDL suspect? Yes.
    Is he any more suspect than any of the others? No:
    Well not unless you have complete confidence in Damsgaard and only Damsgaard.

    Smacks of the usual favouritism.
    I've come to the conclusion that favouritism, is the single biggest contributor to the ongoing doping debate.

    I'm not going to watch the remainder of the Giro trying to second guess who's on what.
    After the CERA lottery of last year, I think I'll wait until August to pick my Giro winner!
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    It's still lagging behind the Greg/Steph phone call link by about 2,300 posts.

    It seems to me FrenchFighter hasn't read it, otherwise he would be in no doubt as to why some people on here think the guy has no credibility.

    I'd be annoyed about it too though, if it was my avatar, being tarnished :-)
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630

    I'm not going to watch the remainder of the Giro trying to second guess who's on what.
    After the CERA lottery of last year, I think I'll wait until August to pick my Giro winner!

    Cunego agrees with that.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    DaveyL wrote:
    It's still lagging behind the Greg/Steph phone call link by about 2,300 posts.
    t seems to me FrenchFighter hasn't read it, otherwise he would be in no doubt as to why some people on here think the guy has no credibility.

    I'd be annoyed about it too though, if it was my avatar, being tarnished :-)

    I resurrected the old avatar to bring a heavy dose of irony to the race. :wink:

    Talking of irony. To think that these remaining parcours are right up Danilo Di Luted's street.

    Never thought he would survive the full Blockhaus climb, but now, he might just make it, relatively unscathed.
    Oh for a heavy day in those "old fashioned" Dolomites.
    A Giro won and lost for want of another 5.5kms, maybe?
    Incredible.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Schau mir mal, as Der Jan was no doubt fond of saying ever year...
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  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    afx237vi wrote:

    I'm not going to watch the remainder of the Giro trying to second guess who's on what.
    After the CERA lottery of last year, I think I'll wait until August to pick my Giro winner!

    Cunego agrees with that.

    Yeah because Cunego was clean as a whistle when he won the Giro. Come on everyone knows DiLuca got away with it - as have lots of other riders - it doesn't mean he must be on the juice now, maybe he is, maybe he isn't - I think all some of us are saying his performances are not of a level that should necessarily raise eyebrows even if his past record does.

    Lampre haven't been clean the last couple of years so the only reason not to suspect Cunego is he's bang off form - does that mean he was juiced last year when he had such a good season ?

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Thanks for the link DaveyL. I will read it later then maybe my opinions will change. I'll let you know...
    Contador is the Greatest