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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Here's the difficulty, I hadn't really envisaged a week, more like a long weekend - say 4/5 days (I imagine this would suit more people as well?). However I imagine finding somewhere that will rent for an odd period of time may be tricky... I'll do some research over the next few days but keep the ideas coming folks.

    Location wise I'm happy with the lakes or the beacons. I've ridden the Black Mountains before and Gospel pass is wonderful. I suppose Wales would be my first choice simply as it's closer, and August looks good.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Wales would suit me more as I can combine it with a trip to see the family and would have babysitting on hand, so it takes pressure off the good lady. However, I'd probably stay at my mother's place near Cardiff rather than with you 'orrible lot (so I can see the kids etc :wink: ) and I'd drive up to wherever you're staying.

    So, best you don't include me in your booking plans. :)
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Here's the difficulty, I hadn't really envisaged a week, more like a long weekend - say 4/5 days (I imagine this would suit more people as well?). However I imagine finding somewhere that will rent for an odd period of time may be tricky... I'll do some research over the next few days but keep the ideas coming folks.

    Location wise I'm happy with the lakes or the beacons. I've ridden the Black Mountains before and Gospel pass is wonderful. I suppose Wales would be my first choice simply as it's closer, and August looks good.

    though i live in london (ish) i was born in abergavenny and my folks still live there so assuming i'm around that time i'd be happy to show the areas i know and some of the less touristy bits as well. abergavenny is also very easy to get to from london being paddington/newport/abergavenny.
  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    Yeah, although I'd definitely be up for a long weekend - a 4-dayer perhaps - I couldn't do a week.

    Not enough holiday, you see!
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    My concerns are around ability. I don't want to hold anyone back by having to wait for me. Obivously if more people go then its possible ability groups would form (one slow and one fast)

    Would prefer to do 4 days I'm hoping for a Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon combo.

    Jash let me know the when, where and how much and I'll let you know if I can.
    Food Chain number = 4

    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    edited May 2009
    DDD, worry ye not. On trips like this everyone is just generally happy to be riding. It's not training. Waiting at a cafe to regroup is good too :)
    FCN 2-4 "Shut up legs", Jens Voigt
    Planet-x Scott
    Rides
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    My concerns are around ability. I don't want to hold anyone back by having to wait for me. Obivously if more people go then its possible ability groups would form (one slow and one fast)

    Would prefer to do 4 days I'm hoping for a Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon combo.

    Jash let me know the when, where and how much and I'll let you know if I can.

    Yep 4 day weekend Fri - Mon sounds ideal really.

    I've had a little look on this site this am. There's a range of options and they only appear to offer a week or 3 days. £ day prices range from £400 to 900 so could be quite reasonable depending on numbers. I reckon if we get 6/7 of us we could be looking at £100 each perhaps less, not bad.
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    A 4 day weekend (Fri - Mon) suits me down to the ground, and the cheaper the better.

    As a bit of a curve ball, I've got access to my parents place in Dunwich when it isn't let. It sleeps 8, and you could definately get about a dozen or more if you used all the floor space. My preference would be the Lakes or Beacons for truly great riding, but if you get stuck for a place to stay let me know (plus it's free of course).
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Rich158 wrote:
    A 4 day weekend (Fri - Mon) suits me down to the ground, and the cheaper the better.

    As a bit of a curve ball, I've got access to my parents place in Dunwich when it isn't let. It sleeps 8, and you could definately get about a dozen or more if you used all the floor space. My preference would be the Lakes or Beacons for truly great riding, but if you get stuck for a place to stay let me know (plus it's free of course).

    Sounds great Rich, ok so it's not the beacons/lakes but it would be handy. What's avail like in August?
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    I'll have to double check, if there's enough interest I'll find out today and report back. There's also a very nice pub just up the road that does B&B, and good beer :lol::lol: if numbers get too high
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    I should also qualify that the accomodation is over 4 bedrooms, iirc two doubles and two twins. Top and tail anyone :shock: :shock: and there's enough floor space in the double rooms for at least another two people on the floor.
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    Would definitely be interested - sure, it's like 45 minutes from my place in Essex, but riding in a group is fun!
  • SpaceBadger
    SpaceBadger Posts: 113
    If you guys do go to the Beacons, I heartily recommend this place to stay:

    http://www.canal-barn.co.uk/

    My friends and I stayed there at New Year, and apart from a slightly overinterested host, is a great place to stay (sleeps 24 I think) and has the drying room and storage space (lockable garagey thing) for plenty of bikes and kit. Is v close to essential amenities (pubs obviously) and also on edge of 'town' for easy access to countrified roads for cycling fun.

    Won't be able to make it this year as I will be stuck indoors writing a literary masterpiece* but perhaps if successful it could be an annual thing?




    *may be an over-exaggeration of my talents
    "I think the phrase rhymes with Clucking Bell"

    FCN = 4
  • Feltup
    Feltup Posts: 1,340
    edited May 2009
    Certainly were some nice lanes around there and very peaceful. Mind you we were there at 7am on the Dunwich Dynamo so maybe they do get busier. :? For a mixed group I reckon you would all be able to stay together more easily in Suffolk, where as in the big hills huge gaps appear very quickly on the ascents and descents.

    edit: I know that no one gets left behind but if you are one of the tail enders it can get a bit demoralising seeing everyone disappear over the horizon all the time.
    Short hairy legged roadie FCN 4 or 5 in my baggies.

    Felt F55 - 2007
    Specialized Singlecross - 2008
    Marin Rift Zone - 1998
    Peugeot Tourmalet - 1983 - taken more hits than Mohammed Ali
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    JonGinge wrote:
    DDD, worry ye not. On trips like this everyone is just generally happy to be riding. It's not training. Waiting at a cafe to regroup is good too :)

    +1.

    No-one gets left behind and you wait at the top of the climbs.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    Feltup wrote:
    Certainly were some nice lanes around there and very peaceful. Mind you we were there at 7am on the Dunwich Dynamo so maybe they do get busier. :? For a mixed group I reckon you would all be able to stay together more easily in Suffolk, where as in the big hills huge gaps appear very quickly on the ascents and descents.

    Good point, but then I live for the hills, climbing and descending are what it's all about :wink:

    Why don't we have two trips, do the Lakes or Beacons in the summer, and Suffolk over a half term some time so the teachers amongst us can still attend. It would be easier to get the house in Dunwich out of season, and after all the cost would be absolutely minimal ie food and booze only :lol::lol:
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • Feltup
    Feltup Posts: 1,340
    Rich158 wrote:
    Feltup wrote:
    Certainly were some nice lanes around there and very peaceful. Mind you we were there at 7am on the Dunwich Dynamo so maybe they do get busier. :? For a mixed group I reckon you would all be able to stay together more easily in Suffolk, where as in the big hills huge gaps appear very quickly on the ascents and descents.

    Good point, but then I live for the hills, climbing and descending are what it's all about :wink:


    Why don't we have two trips, do the Lakes or Beacons in the summer, and Suffolk over a half term some time so the teachers amongst us can still attend. It would be easier to get the house in Dunwich out of season, and after all the cost would be absolutely minimal ie food and booze only :lol::lol:

    Not everyone is as sick as us :wink:

    btw Mid Wales has some great roads and of course the Bwllch. I would love to cycle around there sometime. Shame my Honeymoon is going to get in the way this year :wink:
    Short hairy legged roadie FCN 4 or 5 in my baggies.

    Felt F55 - 2007
    Specialized Singlecross - 2008
    Marin Rift Zone - 1998
    Peugeot Tourmalet - 1983 - taken more hits than Mohammed Ali
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    Ooohh I'd love to have a go at the Bwllch :lol::lol::lol:

    That's a dangerous precedent you're setting with the honeymoon, I'd put your foot down now if I were you :wink:
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    edited May 2009
    All this talk about living for hills kinda smacks of TotalNewbie's point and tells me that this may turn out as a race enthusiast trip and not a Commuter/social ride trip....

    I may decline. Marlborough loop (although that storm did play a huge part in my confidence levels during the ride, as did the cramp, bruised knee from night before and falling off) was my limit.

    All I ask is that when its arranged, be honest about the difficulty and take into consideration that not ever is of the same ability (which I trust Jash and others will).

    Like the Greg, Jash, Jon and Chris's ride up Boxhill, no way (right now, maybe next year) would I do that with them...

    I want my Kuota....
    Food Chain number = 4

    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    All this talk about living for hills kinda smacks of TotalNewbie's point and tells me that this may turn out as a race enthusiast trip and not a Commuter/social ride trip....

    I may decline. Marlborough loop was my limit.

    All I ask is that when its arranged, be honest about the difficulty and take into consideration that not ever is of the same ability (which I trust Jash and others will).

    Like the Greg, Jash, Jon and Chris's ride up Boxhill, no way (right now, maybe next year) would I do that with them...

    I want my Kuota....
    But, but, but. We did then (don't tell CJ's good lady) sit at the cafe and chew the cud for half an hour.
    FCN 2-4 "Shut up legs", Jens Voigt
    Planet-x Scott
    Rides
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    All this talk about living for hills kinda smacks of TotalNewbie's point and tells me that this may turn out as a race enthusiast trip and not a Commuter/social ride trip....

    I may decline. Marlborough loop was my limit.

    All I ask is that when its arranged, be honest about the difficulty and take into consideration that not ever is of the same ability (which I trust Jash and others will).

    Like the Greg, Jash, Jon and Chris's ride up Boxhill, no way (right now, maybe next year) would I do that with them...

    I want my Kuota....

    Ultimately the aim is for it to be a social trip. I think what we need is a list of names and what you'd want from the trip, then we can move forward!

    Name.....Want..............Dates.......Location
    James........Social rides...August....Not fussed
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    All this talk about living for hills kinda smacks of TotalNewbie's point and tells me that this may turn out as a race enthusiast trip and not a Commuter/social ride trip....

    I may decline. Marlborough loop was my limit.

    All I ask is that when its arranged, be honest about the difficulty and take into consideration that not ever is of the same ability (which I trust Jash and others will).

    Like the Greg, Jash, Jon and Chris's ride up Boxhill, no way (right now, maybe next year) would I do that with them...

    I want my Kuota....

    DDD, there's no problem with ability, those that get to the top of any hill first wait for the group, it's basic club run etiquette. As is always riding at the pace of the slowest rider so that no-one gets left behind.

    I don't see any problem with having a couple of rides with everyone as part of a group, and a couple where we split into fast and slow, that way everyone is happy. As has been said this is a social thing, not a training camp.
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    Name.....Want..............Dates.......Location
    James........Social rides...August....Not fussed
    Lindsey......Social rides....August.....Not fussed


    I am your single white female ;-)
    Emerging from under a big black cloud. All help welcome
  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    DDD if i attend I can assure you that there is no way on Gods green Earth you'll be watching me disappear over a hill.

    Unless:

    I'm driving.
    I'm behind
    You're dead.

    Really; my climbing ability is right up there with my ability to give birth and talent for making people laugh.

    No one laugh - you'll ruin the effect.
    Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
    2009 Specialized Tricross Sport
    2011 Trek Madone 4.5
    2012 Felt F65X
    Proud CX Pervert and quiet roadie. 12 mile commuter
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    Name............Want..............Dates..........Location
    James........Social rides......August.........Not fussed
    Lindsey......Social rides......August.........Not fussed
    Rich............Social rides.....Not fussed...Not fussed

    Oh the joy of being carefree and single again :lol:
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    linsen wrote:
    Name.....Want..............Dates.......Location
    James........Social rides...August....Not fussed
    Lindsey......Social rides....August.....Not fussed


    I am your single white female ;-)

    Name.....Want..............Dates.......Location
    James........Social rides...August....Not fussed
    Lindsey......Social rides....August.....Not fussed
    Laurence....Social rides...August......Not fussed

    I am your cool wise sexy black guy with a small but dedicated cult fan following.
    Food Chain number = 4

    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    JonGinge wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    All this talk about living for hills kinda smacks of TotalNewbie's point and tells me that this may turn out as a race enthusiast trip and not a Commuter/social ride trip....

    I may decline. Marlborough loop was my limit.

    All I ask is that when its arranged, be honest about the difficulty and take into consideration that not ever is of the same ability (which I trust Jash and others will).

    Like the Greg, Jash, Jon and Chris's ride up Boxhill, no way (right now, maybe next year) would I do that with them...

    I want my Kuota....
    But, but, but. We did then (don't tell CJ's good lady) sit at the cafe and chew the cud for half an hour.

    Yep, like women shopping for clothes, we lost track of time! :D

    DDD - the reality is that everyone has their own pace going uphill and even club runs can splinter when the road goes up. But, as Rich said, everyone re-groups at the top. So you needn't worry at all. :)
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    Name...............Want..............Dates..........Location
    James..............Social rides......August.........Not fussed
    Lindsey............Social rides......August.........Not fussed
    Rich...............Social rides......Not fussed.....Not fussed
    Laurence...........Social Rides......August.........Not fussed
    Olivia.............Social Rides......Not fussed.... Not fussed
    
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Name...............Want..............Dates..........Location
    James..............Social rides......August.........Not fussed
    Lindsey............Social rides......August.........Not fussed
    Rich...............Social rides......Not fussed.....Not fussed
    Laurence...........Social Rides......August.........Not fussed
    Olivia.............Social Rides......Not fussed.... Not fussed
    roger...........Social ride....August......Breacon beacons

    i'll vote for the beacons as i can easily stay there, and a social ride would be fun, oh it's Bwlch (which means mountain pass) the one your probably thinking of is in the black mountain, rather than the one in the black mountains on the A40
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Right, so far we have:
    Name...............Want..............Dates..........Location
    James..............Social rides......August.........Not fussed
    Lindsey............Social rides......August.........Not fussed
    Rich...............Social rides......Not fussed.....Not fussed
    Laurence...........Social Rides......August.........Not fussed
    Olivia.............Social Rides......Not fussed.... Not fussed
    roger...........Social ride....August......Breacon beacons
    

    Any other takers?