why would he go to the olympics wi cera in him knowing he was censored if he went there...I guess his use of it predates Ricco being caught, predates Sella...so why not cancel...say he was ill? It amazes me
Another Gerolsteiner rider nabbed. Austrian connection via Matschiner? Or was - as widely suspected - half the bunch on CERA in the past two years and getting it everywhere?
A shame though. I met the guy a few times on training rides, a real gentleman. For as long as I could keep up with him, he was doing hill intervals. He was with Liquigas at the time.
why would he go to the olympics wi cera in him knowing he was farked if he went there...I guess his use of it predates Ricco being caught, predates Sella...so why not cancel...say he was ill? It amazes me
Would you like my theory? No? Well, I'll give it anyway.
CERA use was fairly widespread. While some people got nabbed in the Tour for the urine test a significant portion didn't. They figured with some careful management they could get away with it.
Then that blasted blood test for it came along and narrowed it further.
6 other positives for it and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were cycling.
CERA use was fairly widespread. While some people got nabbed in the Tour for the urine test a significant portion didn't. They figured with some careful management they could get away with it.
This is my suspicion too, it explains the performance of some riders and the UCI's refusal to retro-test the samples from the 2008 Giro.
why would he go to the olympics wi cera in him knowing he was farked if he went there...I guess his use of it predates Ricco being caught, predates Sella...so why not cancel...say he was ill? It amazes me
Would you like my theory? No? Well, I'll give it anyway.
CERA use was fairly widespread. While some people got nabbed in the Tour for the urine test a significant portion didn't. They figured with some careful management they could get away with it.
Then that blasted blood test for it came along and narrowed it further.
6 other positives for it and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were cycling.
Not forgetting proximity of dates and timings. The Kohl result didn't come back until post-Olympics so it's possible that people were still on a course of CERA when Ricco got nabbed or thought they wouldn't on the balance of probability.
Plus didn't Rebellin plan to retire at the end of last season?
I've been trying to filter down the possibilities based on there being one athlete who tested positive twice for CERA from the wire copy I read. I keep on coming down to one name :roll:
Then again, there's plenty of other sports where it could have been in use...
why would he go to the olympics wi cera in him knowing he was farked if he went there...I guess his use of it predates Ricco being caught, predates Sella...so why not cancel...say he was ill? It amazes me
Would you like my theory? No? Well, I'll give it anyway.
CERA use was fairly widespread. While some people got nabbed in the Tour for the urine test a significant portion didn't. They figured with some careful management they could get away with it.
Then that blasted blood test for it came along and narrowed it further.
6 other positives for it and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were cycling.
I like your theories Iainf..please keep giving them on here..you are probably bang on. So perhaps a refined test is what busted him rather than the exact testing that busted Ricco, Sella, Piepoli. I was just thinking maybe he took some mid july and it hadn't left his system totally. One more doper down...another vacancy for new rider..
CERA use was fairly widespread. While some people got nabbed in the Tour for the urine test a significant portion didn't. They figured with some careful management they could get away with it.
This is my suspicion too, it explains the performance of some riders and the UCI's refusal to retro-test the samples from the 2008 Giro.
I don't know if I'd want them retested...could be a shitload of cyclists straight on the dole who are not connected to it...sometimes cover up is maybe best?
Hate to sound stupid but what does "tranquilo" mean in the context mentioned earlier in this thread. Am relatively new to following the pros, but have seen it a few times now.
What do people make of his recent win then? "Assisted"?
Well, here's a stupid question. How does this "news agency" know the name if the IOC
didn't release the name? Not one way or another about who(other than sad for the sport) but how do these names get out there if the governing body hasn't "released" the names?
Well, here's a stupid question. How does this "news agency" know the name if the IOC
didn't release the name? Not one way or another about who(other than sad for the sport) but how do these names get out there if the governing body hasn't "released" the names?
Dennis Noward
It's called a leak. You can't seriously not know that.
Hate to sound stupid but what does "tranquilo" mean in the context mentioned earlier in this thread.
"I am calm": it's funny how some literal translation by cyclingnews has created this loaded phrase. I think estoy tranquilo really means "I'm happy with things", "I'm cool with it". The same for io sono tranquillo in Italian. After all, no one in English really says "I am calm", it sounds wooden if you translate it directly.
Not that I'm being fussy about the translation, it's more that the literal - but wrong - translation has taken its own meaning amongst us cynics. "Calm" really means "I'm in denial", "I've got my lawyers on speedial" or "hell, my career and reputation are dangling by a thread". Similarly "preparation" is double-entendre stuff, it does not mean training, it means getting loaded on CERA.
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Agree it's a bit sad but he escaped justice a few years ago.
Another perfectly timed kick in the b*lls for cycling.
I'm sure there is no link there?
A shame though. I met the guy a few times on training rides, a real gentleman. For as long as I could keep up with him, he was doing hill intervals. He was with Liquigas at the time.
I suspect that's Daniel Friebe ghostwriting.
Would you like my theory? No? Well, I'll give it anyway.
CERA use was fairly widespread. While some people got nabbed in the Tour for the urine test a significant portion didn't. They figured with some careful management they could get away with it.
Then that blasted blood test for it came along and narrowed it further.
6 other positives for it and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were cycling.
Athletics, Rowing, Cycling and Swimming
how the testers got him twice instead of 10 times
5 other olympians??
Not forgetting proximity of dates and timings. The Kohl result didn't come back until post-Olympics so it's possible that people were still on a course of CERA when Ricco got nabbed or thought they wouldn't on the balance of probability.
Plus didn't Rebellin plan to retire at the end of last season?
I've been trying to filter down the possibilities based on there being one athlete who tested positive twice for CERA from the wire copy I read. I keep on coming down to one name :roll:
Then again, there's plenty of other sports where it could have been in use...
http://www.atomicecho.com/cycling
I like your theories Iainf..please keep giving them on here..you are probably bang on. So perhaps a refined test is what busted him rather than the exact testing that busted Ricco, Sella, Piepoli. I was just thinking maybe he took some mid july and it hadn't left his system totally. One more doper down...another vacancy for new rider..
Have to hand it to Rebellin - he was caught on video FFS and still managed to keep getting away with it. I won't miss him.
I don't know if I'd want them retested...could be a shitload of cyclists straight on the dole who are not connected to it...sometimes cover up is maybe best?
not laughing...saddened for cycling....i thought we were over the worst!
New generation kicking in which is positive.
What do people make of his recent win then? "Assisted"?
didn't release the name? Not one way or another about who(other than sad for the sport) but how do these names get out there if the governing body hasn't "released" the names?
Dennis Noward
It's called a leak. You can't seriously not know that.
So from that I read it as the other cyclist not being a medallist which probably scotches at least one of "cyclists most likely" from the list.
http://www.atomicecho.com/cycling
Not that I'm being fussy about the translation, it's more that the literal - but wrong - translation has taken its own meaning amongst us cynics. "Calm" really means "I'm in denial", "I've got my lawyers on speedial" or "hell, my career and reputation are dangling by a thread". Similarly "preparation" is double-entendre stuff, it does not mean training, it means getting loaded on CERA.
Cheating git. Good riddance.
So we have another bit of good news on the way :roll: