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  • Ok, I think you need look setting off/passing through Toulous le trec to setting off/crossing Borough road lights (under the railway bridge given there is variance in the entry into the E&C bypass.

    This morning on a good run doing the full bypass taking the Dante Road left hander I was 3:44 according to Flyby. I've created 'The correct E&C bypass' from about 20 metres before and end.
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  • dekant
    dekant Posts: 114
    It's a southbound only gig - no need to do it on the morning commute as you can just head up the entire of southwark bridge rd.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Now that was a cracking ride home.

    Chap on a black Planet X and the South African fella on the blue CX (Kinesis maybe). All the way to Richmond Park from Vauxhall Bridge.

    Treating myself to some chocolate tonight.
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  • dekant
    dekant Posts: 114
    cjcp wrote:
    Chap on a black Planet X

    Haha, that was me. Was running a bit late for meeting a mate for some laps so had to give it a few beans.

    Was glad of the company as got there bang on time and without having to gas myself before the training sesh.

    Chapeau!
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    dekant wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    Chap on a black Planet X

    Haha, that was me. Was running a bit late for meeting a mate for some laps so had to give it a few beans.

    Was glad of the company as got there bang on time and without having to gas myself before the training sesh.

    Chapeau!

    :D

    I, OTOH, gassed myself out! Tried to catch the other fella through the middle of RP. Thought I was closing, and then he just went "MEEP! MEEP!", and that was that.

    EDIT: rode with him last winter, after I stopped on Embankment to lend him my pump after he flatted. He's a former elite triathlete. I was on the crosser back then, too, and it remains one of my faster commutes home ever...

    And I've just bought a bigger chain ring. I'm done with this spinning lark!!!
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Decent turnaround today after a couple days with my feet up. Time in and time home were the same, which is unusual. Didn't feel like a easterly today.

    Anyone know why Garmin and Strava show such very different average power recordings? Strava and Elevate / Coggin are within 1w of each other but Garmin is 25% higher.
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    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
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  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    Beers tonight mean trainw@kering for me. I seem to be so used to shoulder checking that I now do it when walking around the tube.

    Strava tells me that I rode home with Rower last night. Totally missed that one, must have been in my own little world!
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    WFH today.

    Looking at the weather, just as well.
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    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • Good ride in, nice to see a man on £7k's worth of shiny venge needing take a tow and getting dropped by spinny guy.
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  • Beers tonight mean trainw@kering for me. I seem to be so used to shoulder checking that I now do it when walking around the tube.

    Ha! I'm always doing this AND my inner voice wants me to berate people who don't do it before changing (walking) lanes :lol:

    Wet n mingin ride in this morning and only had the summer bike available which was annoying. No SCR but shouldn't complain as yesterday was cracking. Time to find somewhere to dry the shoes...
  • inbike
    inbike Posts: 264
    Asprilla wrote:
    Anyone know why Garmin and Strava show such very different average power recordings? Strava and Elevate / Coggin are within 1w of each other but Garmin is 25% higher.

    Same problem with calorie estimation. If you believe what Garmin says you'll be fat in no time.
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    ... Strava tells me that I rode home with Rower last night. Totally missed that one, must have been in my own little world!
    Flyby says we crossed a couple of times at NKR and Putney Bridge lights - I too was not paying much attention
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  • vpnikolov
    vpnikolov Posts: 568
    Beat the rain by 5 mins this morning.

    Counts as a win in my book. :P
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    inbike wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    Anyone know why Garmin and Strava show such very different average power recordings? Strava and Elevate / Coggin are within 1w of each other but Garmin is 25% higher.

    Same problem with calorie estimation. If you believe what Garmin says you'll be fat in no time.

    Using a power meter though, so this isn't estimation. Using a PW should also provide accurate calorie count (although based on an estimate of your efficiency when converting calories to power).
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    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • I recently converted my commuter road bike to a flat-bar as having a problem with tendonitis in my arm at the moment and using x-shifters is helping. funny how roadies *hate* being passed by a flat-bar though, i've had more people try and race me this week after converting, one guy kept re-passing me at lights until finally giving up when we hit RP on the way home :lol:

    I might start wearing rugby socks to complete the look and bait more promuters..
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Bizarre rear mech explosion this morning.

    I'm a CXer, so no stranger to mech-in-the-wheel incidents. This one was different though. Pootling along at about 15mph, slightly downhill, in a queue of traffic, probably doing all of 100 Watts. Can't remember whether I was actually changing gear, but I hear something ping off the bike and clatter across the road, and the drivetrain "feels wrong".

    Turns out the lower jockey wheel has disintegrated, one side of the cage has broken, and the whole cage has departed the bike, leaving the rest of the rear mech on the bike.

    Remainder of the bike is fine. Chain was near the middle of the cassette, so I'm confident it didn't go in the wheel. Weird!
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  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    Asprilla wrote:
    inbike wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    Anyone know why Garmin and Strava show such very different average power recordings? Strava and Elevate / Coggin are within 1w of each other but Garmin is 25% higher.

    Same problem with calorie estimation. If you believe what Garmin says you'll be fat in no time.

    Using a power meter though, so this isn't estimation. Using a PW should also provide accurate calorie count (although based on an estimate of your efficiency when converting calories to power).
    Average vs Normalised?
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  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    TGOTB wrote:
    Bizarre rear mech explosion this morning.

    I'm a CXer, so no stranger to mech-in-the-wheel incidents. This one was different though. Pootling along at about 15mph, slightly downhill, in a queue of traffic, probably doing all of 100 Watts. Can't remember whether I was actually changing gear, but I hear something ping off the bike and clatter across the road, and the drivetrain "feels wrong".

    Turns out the lower jockey wheel has disintegrated, one side of the cage has broken, and the whole cage has departed the bike, leaving the rest of the rear mech on the bike.

    Remainder of the bike is fine. Chain was near the middle of the cassette, so I'm confident it didn't go in the wheel. Weird!
    chicken vs egg: jockey wheel failure first or outer cage drop-off due to pivot-screws undoing themselves first? I've had the latter at least twice.
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    dhope wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    inbike wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    Anyone know why Garmin and Strava show such very different average power recordings? Strava and Elevate / Coggin are within 1w of each other but Garmin is 25% higher.

    Same problem with calorie estimation. If you believe what Garmin says you'll be fat in no time.

    Using a power meter though, so this isn't estimation. Using a PW should also provide accurate calorie count (although based on an estimate of your efficiency when converting calories to power).
    Average vs Normalised?

    Example from yesterday:
    Strava / Elevate
    Weighted Avg Power (Dr Coggan Formula): 208w
    Best 20 min power: 200w
    Weighted Avg Power: 207w
    Garmin Connect
    Avg Power: 256w
    Max Avg Power (20 mins): 200w
    Normalised Power: 227w

    A man with one watch knows the exact time, but a man with two watches can never be sure...
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    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    Asprilla wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    inbike wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    Anyone know why Garmin and Strava show such very different average power recordings? Strava and Elevate / Coggin are within 1w of each other but Garmin is 25% higher.

    Same problem with calorie estimation. If you believe what Garmin says you'll be fat in no time.

    Using a power meter though, so this isn't estimation. Using a PW should also provide accurate calorie count (although based on an estimate of your efficiency when converting calories to power).
    Average vs Normalised?

    Example from yesterday:
    Strava / Elevate
    Weighted Avg Power (Dr Coggan Formula): 208w
    Best 20 min power: 200w
    Weighted Avg Power: 207w
    Garmin Connect
    Avg Power: 256w
    Max Avg Power (20 mins): 200w
    Normalised Power: 227w

    A man with one watch knows the exact time, but a man with two watches can never be sure...
    Whenever I reset my garmin, it shows me the screen where I can choose between 2 modes of power averaging: including "zero time" or not including it. Much like speed averaging. Could that explain it?
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    rower63 wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    inbike wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    Anyone know why Garmin and Strava show such very different average power recordings? Strava and Elevate / Coggin are within 1w of each other but Garmin is 25% higher.

    Same problem with calorie estimation. If you believe what Garmin says you'll be fat in no time.

    Using a power meter though, so this isn't estimation. Using a PW should also provide accurate calorie count (although based on an estimate of your efficiency when converting calories to power).
    Average vs Normalised?

    Example from yesterday:
    Strava / Elevate
    Weighted Avg Power (Dr Coggan Formula): 208w
    Best 20 min power: 200w
    Weighted Avg Power: 207w
    Garmin Connect
    Avg Power: 256w
    Max Avg Power (20 mins): 200w
    Normalised Power: 227w

    A man with one watch knows the exact time, but a man with two watches can never be sure...

    Whenever I reset my garmin, it shows me the screen where I can choose between 2 modes of power averaging: including "zero time" or not including it. Much like speed averaging. Could that explain it?

    Hmm, Was set to not include zeros for power and cadence. I've changed that. Lets see what happens.
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    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • mtb-idle
    mtb-idle Posts: 2,179
    Check what DC Rainmaker* says about it; he usually has these things covered.

    *not necessarily on the front page, you may have to root around a bit in product reviews.
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Lots of unmarked Police around this morning, and all heading in different directions.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    Asprilla wrote:
    Lots of unmarked Police around this morning, and all heading in different directions.

    Yup, think I saw the the same three police vans flying around the RP/Barnes area, think they may have taken a few wrong turns. Then they were parked on Bolan Bridge heading back towards RP having a conversation before flying off again. Mental.
  • Slightly overlayered this morning and tired after an active weekend so didn't really push hard, some cursory assertions of dominance on Q1 (yes I am very sad) aside. Nice crisp morning so just enjoyed it. Waterloo bridge like a bus garage this morning, didn't seem to be much reason for it other than sheer congestion.
  • Lovely and cold but the return of my cold meant it was an overdress and pootle day. It seems the cold weather got rid of a lot of long distance nodders but not local nodders on either a suburban of metropolitan basis (if that makes any sense).

    Else, I was really disappointing than one chopper trying very hard with a very wide pannier did not see it go into the deep section of the chopper (not Olas) on a Propel as he squeezed between us and many other gaps which plainly weren't there.
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  • mtb-idle
    mtb-idle Posts: 2,179
    Beers tonight mean trainw@kering for me. I seem to be so used to shoulder checking that I now do it when walking around the tube.

    Ha! I'm always doing this AND my inner voice wants me to berate people who don't do it before changing (walking) lanes :lol:

    Me too; I actually hand-signalled as I pulled into another 'lane' last week. This was whilst walking thru Canary Wharf shopping centre one lunchtime. :lol: :oops:
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    MTB-Idle wrote:
    Beers tonight mean trainw@kering for me. I seem to be so used to shoulder checking that I now do it when walking around the tube.

    Ha! I'm always doing this AND my inner voice wants me to berate people who don't do it before changing (walking) lanes :lol:

    Me too; I actually hand-signalled as I pulled into another 'lane' last week. This was whilst walking thru Canary Wharf shopping centre one lunchtime. :lol: :oops:
    I used to shoulder check even before i started cycling. It just makes sense to me.

    Don't think i've ever hand-signalled as a pedestrian though.
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  • Anyone take part in Redbull Timelaps at the weekend? The legs needed a hand spinning on the way in this morning!
    I also left the noddy race number tag on my seatpost - does this count as bonus points?
  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    Cracking ride home last night. Tailwind, light traffic, hardly any nodders and good groups meant I flew home. Deer all over the road through RP made it more fun. Paid for my efforts this morning though perhaps those recovery ciders last night werent so clever.