Silly commuting racing

Ben6899

Ta!

veronese68

Kingstonian wrote:

Ryan_W wrote:

Smokey Bacon wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

cjcp wrote:

Ryan_W wrote:

Thanks for the kiss CJ...

Do you reserve a table there every morning? :P

Table for two next week?

A room more like it

I’ve got enough love for you all. Best coffee in SW London.

Which place is this?

Are you interested in the coffee or the large chap in lycra?

Is everyone back from holidays? We should go to the Wych again soon.

cjcp

KingstonGraham wrote:

Ben6899 wrote:

Fenix wrote:

dhope wrote:

Asprilla wrote:

Far too warm, even for swimming in one. Was 24.7c in the water for London Triathlon on the 4th / 5th of this month. If the mercury hits 25c then wetsuits are banned prompting absolute panic from the organisers that the vast majority of competitors wouldn't actually be able to swim 1500m without one.

Was a clubmate with the thermometer. They decided it was going to measure below 25 because having everyone panicking and wearing tow floats would have been carnage.

Yes Ironman always managed to find a cool patch to measure the water temps to allow wetsuits. Until the first time in European history that they couldn't and lucky me got to swim without a wetsuit... Took forever. I'm a crap swimmer.

Tow floats sound like more trouble than their worth in a crowded swim - Imagine the tangled lines ?

What's the reason for banning wetsuits at 25c? And do they make swimming that much easier - is it to do with buoyancy?

1) You should only need them to protect against getting too cold. Over 25 degrees, you don't need that protection.
2) Yes, it's all about extra buoyancy.

Yeah, otherwise there's a danger of overheating if the water's too warm - there was a case a few years ago of a US swimmer dying due to heat exertion in waters of over 30°C.

I think open water events have a max temp of around 28°C.

asprilla

cjcp wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

Ben6899 wrote:

Fenix wrote:

dhope wrote:

Asprilla wrote:

Far too warm, even for swimming in one. Was 24.7c in the water for London Triathlon on the 4th / 5th of this month. If the mercury hits 25c then wetsuits are banned prompting absolute panic from the organisers that the vast majority of competitors wouldn't actually be able to swim 1500m without one.

Was a clubmate with the thermometer. They decided it was going to measure below 25 because having everyone panicking and wearing tow floats would have been carnage.

Yes Ironman always managed to find a cool patch to measure the water temps to allow wetsuits. Until the first time in European history that they couldn't and lucky me got to swim without a wetsuit... Took forever. I'm a crap swimmer.

Tow floats sound like more trouble than their worth in a crowded swim - Imagine the tangled lines ?

What's the reason for banning wetsuits at 25c? And do they make swimming that much easier - is it to do with buoyancy?

1) You should only need them to protect against getting too cold. Over 25 degrees, you don't need that protection.
2) Yes, it's all about extra buoyancy.

Yeah, otherwise there's a danger of overheating if the water's too warm - there was a case a few years ago of a US swimmer dying due to heat exertion in waters of over 30°C.

I think open water events have a max temp of around 28°C.

In training at Shepperton I've been the only one wearing a wetsuit in recent weeks. Mind, I'm the only one without a six pack.

AyBee

Kingstonian wrote:

Ryan_W wrote:

Smokey Bacon wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

cjcp wrote:

Ryan_W wrote:

Thanks for the kiss CJ...

Do you reserve a table there every morning? :P

Table for two next week?

A room more like it

I’ve got enough love for you all. Best coffee in SW London.

Which place is this?

Don't tell him - it's not big enough for us all :P

As a side note - I've been watching Allez Sprints on ebay for a while and a few months ago, a custom painted blue one with ENVE wheels and carbon campag groupset turned up. Very nice, but I was only looking for a frame, so stuck it on watch and moved on. What should I see on my ride along embankment last night? Had a brief chat with the guy and it was indeed the same bike - small world!

cjcp

Wouldn't mind trying it out, but I doubt there's any food left after Ryan's finished

kingstonian

Veronese68 wrote:

Kingstonian wrote:

Ryan_W wrote:

Smokey Bacon wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

cjcp wrote:

Ryan_W wrote:

Thanks for the kiss CJ...

Do you reserve a table there every morning? :P

Table for two next week?

A room more like it

I’ve got enough love for you all. Best coffee in SW London.

Which place is this?

Are you interested in the coffee or the large chap in lycra?

Is everyone back from holidays? We should go to the Wych again soon.

Am on hols but back on the Bank Holiday weekend. A drink would be good once I’m back.

prhymeate

I saw someone get wiped out by a car in Balham this morning, just before the hill at the end of that weird side road that runs parallel to the main road. They got up and were walking but weren't talking at first, must have been the shock. Hope they are ok.

sgt.pepper

Everyone alright? I don't understand how you guys are so chill.

NZ is so safe/dull that someone building a fence that blocked a view was front page news, multiple times.

inbike

Sgt.Pepper wrote:

Everyone alright? I don't understand how you guys are so chill.

On Saturday a driver who hasn't seen me drove her car directly at me at high speed.

So I suppose we are used to ithis kind of thing. How much difference does it really make if it's malice vs incompetence?

smokey_bacon

inbike wrote:

Sgt.Pepper wrote:

Everyone alright? I don't understand how you guys are so chill.

On Saturday a driver who hasn't seen me drove her car directly at me at high speed.

So I suppose we are used to ithis kind of thing. How much difference does it really make if it's malice vs incompetence?

It must seem like madness from the outside. But being born and raised in London how it is and how it has always been and you get on with it.

veronese68

Smokey Bacon wrote:

It must seem like madness from the outside. But being born and raised in London how it is and how it has always been and you get on with it.

That pretty much covers it, although I've only lived here since I was 2. I actually feel safer riding in London than on a lot of country lanes.

W1

Smokey Bacon wrote:

inbike wrote:

Sgt.Pepper wrote:

Everyone alright? I don't understand how you guys are so chill.

On Saturday a driver who hasn't seen me drove her car directly at me at high speed.

So I suppose we are used to ithis kind of thing. How much difference does it really make if it's malice vs incompetence?

It must seem like madness from the outside. But being born and raised in London how it is and how it has always been and you get on with it.

It's still a bit unnerving when it happens right where your ride, right when you should have been there had you left at the usual time.

Still, it was only some bloody cyclists, eh? And they all run red lights anyway so deserve it.

W1

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with a chronic shoaler? Older chap on a SS, always pushes to the front or gets hung out to dry on the right hand side of the traffic. Always jumps the lights, and always has to be re-overtaken repeatedly. It is very tedious. Is he completely oblivious to all the bikes repeatedly overtaking him?

kingdav

Get one of these here harpoon guns. Swap flippers for cleats, you'll still look cool.

anonymousblackfg

W1 wrote:

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with a chronic shoaler? Older chap on a SS, always pushes to the front or gets hung out to dry on the right hand side of the traffic. Always jumps the lights, and always has to be re-overtaken repeatedly. It is very tedious. Is he completely oblivious to all the bikes repeatedly overtaking him?

Keep telling him he's dropped something or his bag is open.

As for Balham, that bit is always a nightmare, as much as you want to keep your speed up and get ready for the ascent of the Col, you can guarantee some numpty in a car will be trying to get in or out of the various side roads. Glad to hear the cyclist was at least up, if not wholly ok.

smokey_bacon

kingdav wrote:

Get one of these here harpoon guns. Swap flippers for cleats, you'll still look cool.

Thats Asprilla no???? Just add bike.....

cjcp

anonymousblackfg wrote:

W1 wrote:

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with a chronic shoaler? Older chap on a SS, always pushes to the front or gets hung out to dry on the right hand side of the traffic. Always jumps the lights, and always has to be re-overtaken repeatedly. It is very tedious. Is he completely oblivious to all the bikes repeatedly overtaking him?

Keep telling him he's dropped something or his bag is open.

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Did this a couple of weeks ago.

W1

cjcp wrote:

anonymousblackfg wrote:

W1 wrote:

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with a chronic shoaler? Older chap on a SS, always pushes to the front or gets hung out to dry on the right hand side of the traffic. Always jumps the lights, and always has to be re-overtaken repeatedly. It is very tedious. Is he completely oblivious to all the bikes repeatedly overtaking him?

Keep telling him he's dropped something or his bag is open.

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Did this a couple of weeks ago.

This is good advice but - no bag.

Another dilemma - tarty riders with all the gear that can't clip in and, rather than just pedalling off until they can, stop pedalling whilst looking at their feet. Causes mayhem away from the lights because sometimes they almost come to a complete stop.

kingstongraham

Sgt.Pepper wrote:

Everyone alright? I don't understand how you guys are so chill.

NZ is so safe/dull that someone building a fence that blocked a view was front page news, multiple times.

By lunchtime yesterday, this was down to third place on the news behind the Italy bridge collapse and Ben Stokes.

sketchley

Not been here a while, hi everyone.

Coming back with a rant, passing on the left without even a shout out is wrong. Of course responded only way possible, sped up passed held it turned off for the win. Then collapsed and took it very easy the rest of way to the office. Conclusion i'm out of practice.....

Say hi if you see a fat bloke on an Enigma on the embankment on way home later....

AyBee

Sketchley wrote:

Not been here a while, hi everyone.

Coming back with a rant, passing on the left without even a shout out is wrong. Of course responded only way possible, sped up passed held it turned off for the win. Then collapsed and took it very easy the rest of way to the office. Conclusion i'm out of practice.....

Say hi if you see a fat bloke on an Enigma on the embankment on way home later....

If you get passed on the left, you're leaving far too much room on the inside and pushing everyone who's faster than you closer to the traffic, FACT!

elbowloh

AyBee wrote:

Sketchley wrote:

Not been here a while, hi everyone.

Coming back with a rant, passing on the left without even a shout out is wrong. Of course responded only way possible, sped up passed held it turned off for the win. Then collapsed and took it very easy the rest of way to the office. Conclusion i'm out of practice.....

Say hi if you see a fat bloke on an Enigma on the embankment on way home later....

If you get passed on the left, you're leaving far too much room on the inside and pushing everyone who's faster than you closer to the traffic, FACT!

Err, not at all.
you shouldn't be riding in the gutter, it's not safe and also, he could be in in primary position, where you're supposed to be first and foremost (hence the name).

Edit: not sure if joking?

cjcp

KingstonGraham wrote:

Sgt.Pepper wrote:

Everyone alright? I don't understand how you guys are so chill.

NZ is so safe/dull that someone building a fence that blocked a view was front page news, multiple times.

By lunchtime yesterday, this was down to third place on the news behind the Italy bridge collapse and Ben Stokes.

Aye. And moved on now to whether Parliament Square should be pedestrianised - would like to see it limited to certain types of vehicles as a trial period e.g. buses, black cabs bikes, emergency vehicles, and - during certain hours* - delivery trucks.

* that might get rid of the delivery truck which regularly seems to be parked just before left turn from Westminster Bridge onto Embankment during the morning rush hour.

It might help reduce the threat and pollution levels to the police and peds in that area (particularly for those police officers manning the barriers and gates close to the traffic).

cjcp

The chap with freakishly large calves. Paceline?

He pretty much blitzed everything eastbound this morning, and didn't seem to be trying.

njee20

W1 wrote:

Another dilemma - tarty riders with all the gear that can't clip in and, rather than just pedalling off until they can, stop pedalling whilst looking at their feet. Causes mayhem away from the lights because sometimes they almost come to a complete stop.

Hear hear, although their level of gear is irrelevant, it's just as annoying if they're on a crap bike! Guy I ride with is a bit of a nightmare for it, he doesn't stop pedalling to look down until 15 seconds up the road, but by then you're up to speed as his sudden deceleration comes as a very nasty surprise.

cjcp wrote:

The chap with freakishly large calves. Paceline?

He pretty much blitzed everything eastbound this morning, and didn't seem to be trying.

I know the bloke you mean, his calves are immense, not seen him for ages.

Inclined to agree about being passed on the left on places like the Embankment where riding primary in isolation isn't necessary, you're essentially in (bike) traffic, and should keep left. If we're talking about 'normal' roads it's a bit different though.

AyBee

elbowloh wrote:

AyBee wrote:

Sketchley wrote:

Not been here a while, hi everyone.

Coming back with a rant, passing on the left without even a shout out is wrong. Of course responded only way possible, sped up passed held it turned off for the win. Then collapsed and took it very easy the rest of way to the office. Conclusion i'm out of practice.....

Say hi if you see a fat bloke on an Enigma on the embankment on way home later....

If you get passed on the left, you're leaving far too much room on the inside and pushing everyone who's faster than you closer to the traffic, FACT!

Err, not at all.
you shouldn't be riding in the gutter, it's not safe and also, he could be in in primary position, where you're supposed to be first and foremost (hence the name).

Edit: not sure if joking?

There's a difference between gutter and leaving enough room for a cyclist to pass you on the inside. It's a trait that is far too common on my commute where someone will overtake a slower rider and then be oblivious to the fact that anyone behind them might want to get past them. Most CS routes are wide enough for 2 side-by-side, but as soon as you don't move back left, you're pushing people behind into the traffic. It's like people who drive in the middle lane of a 3-lane motorway!

martinc

njee20 wrote:

W1 wrote:

Another dilemma - tarty riders with all the gear that can't clip in and, rather than just pedalling off until they can, stop pedalling whilst looking at their feet. Causes mayhem away from the lights because sometimes they almost come to a complete stop.

Hear hear, although their level of gear is irrelevant, it's just as annoying if they're on a crap bike! Guy I ride with is a bit of a nightmare for it, he doesn't stop pedalling to look down until 15 seconds up the road, but by then you're up to speed as his sudden deceleration comes as a very nasty surprise.

cjcp wrote:

The chap with freakishly large calves. Paceline?

He pretty much blitzed everything eastbound this morning, and didn't seem to be trying.

I know the bloke you mean, his calves are immense, not seen him for ages.

Could be my mate Crabby. He has calves the size of my thighs. Rides a Cinelli fixie or a Fireflies Colnago.
Not with Paceline though

asprilla

Smokey Bacon wrote:

kingdav wrote:

Get one of these here harpoon guns. Swap flippers for cleats, you'll still look cool.

Thats Asprilla no???? Just add bike.....

Ofcoursh.

poweredbyidris

Asprilla wrote:

Smokey Bacon wrote:

kingdav wrote:

Get one of these here harpoon guns. Swap flippers for cleats, you'll still look cool.

Thats Asprilla no???? Just add bike.....

Ofcoursh.

Need to drop those wheelsuckers