Your rants here.

Tashman

You're in a public place. Nothing you can do about it

rick_chasey

Just don't see why these c*nts need to put it on YouTube.


I know he's gotten money for it too to sell it to the papers.

Just so f*cking scummy.

Ben6899

What on earth did your boss say!?

Harry182

Good time to offer boss/company title sponsor deal?

rjsterry

Ben6899 wrote:

What on earth did your boss say!?

Quite. From a quick look there are only three or four people involved: the guy who got run into the kerb, the guy with the camera, the lorry driver, and to a much lesser extent the guy who came around the front of the lorry and I think was trying to get some details. Apart from a lot of entirely expected swearing given everyone has had a quite a scare, and some questionable riding and driving (and not from you RC) I don't see anything to be embarrassed about.

rick_chasey

Boss doesn't like is employees ending up in the paper.

I still can't see a good justification for a) uploading it and b) selling to to a pikey middleman.

roger_merriman

Rick Chasey wrote:

Boss doesn't like is employees ending up in the paper.

I still can't see a good justification for a) uploading it and b) selling to to a pikey middleman.

London is a busy places must be loads of images of you and others every day. Some folks upload videos of there commute every day to YouTube? Any photos I take end up on my strava feed, I probably have caught others at sometime.

There is bad driver/stupid cyclist YouTube channels and sites.

You'd have to know you where there I didn't notice you have met you admitted quite a few years back, not sure what really your boss/company really issue is?

If someone offers money a lot of folks will go for it.

rick_chasey

We're living amongst guillable Stasi volunteers.

I would have a word with him but that'll probably get filmed and put up too.

That's what the world has come to. If you value your own privacy you can't do anything anymore.

dhope

Rick Chasey wrote:

We're living amongst guillable Stasi volunteers.

I would have a word with him but that'll probably get filmed and put up too.

That's what the world has come to. If you value your own privacy you can't do anything anymore.

Top quality ranting, there has been some lazy stuff recently but this is getting back on point. Good work Rick.

timothyw

Strong rant game.

Mind boggling how entitled Rick feels to privacy while in a street out in public. Literally anyone could have seen you there.....

Hell, on Thursday, I was out of my way riding to Enfield to pick up something from a mate, and my boss saw me from his car, said 'Hey Tim! What're you doing here?' but had to drive off before I could answer.

What a bastard, using his eyes to spot me out in public. This story is literally true.

Amazed that your boss cared. Amazed that you care. Particularly amusing given that you have all your rides uploaded to strava, yet you're complaining about the dude with the camera.

rick_chasey

It's ons thing having something happen in public.

It's another having it videoed for all to see.

It's another to then sell it to a paper.


It's not so much my right to privacy when in the street as it is not to have it recorded and published to be viewed at will on demand.

It also confirms my view that the camera wearing lot arnt in it for the noble reason of evidence when sh!t goes wrong.

They're in it for a quick buck and the jizz off for the attention they get whilst never revealing their own p*ssy face.

jamesco

Rick Chasey wrote:

It's not so much my right to privacy when in the street as it is not to have it recorded and published to be viewed at will on demand.

It also confirms my view that the camera wearing lot arnt in it for the noble reason of evidence when sh!t goes wrong.

With all due respect RC, that's your rant diverging from boring reality. Having watched this video I couldn't tell where you featured in it, despite only a handful of cyclists being involved. Why any incidental viewer would somehow know and care that you're in it is beyond me as it's just too mundane.

Most any camera user will be aware that their commute is no more exciting to watch because it's on a bike than in a train and will never post anything publicly. Cameras come with automatic-overwrite for a reason.

I use a camera due to two things:

• being hit at an intersection and the driver telling me that I must have run a red (nope)
• doing jury duty and seeing how other jurors would refute statements as proven as "the sun came up yesterday" unless there was video evidence of it

Thinking about close calls and collisions, I realised that moaning wasn't going to do anything, only having the collision recorded (by the authorities) and possibly prosecuted would. And for that, a camera was needed.

Yeah, it sucks to wear one as it's heavy and makes one look incredibly dorky. But on the other side, it works. A taxi driver that deliberately left-hooked me two weeks ago is now being investigated by the police. When the same thing happened to me eight years ago there was nothing I could do while the driver laughed in my face.

Similarly, you've said that you were once severely assaulted and suffered sickening injuries with no consequences to the perpetrators; when I was once (much more mildly) assaulted the driver was prosecuted by the Met and actually convicted, thanks to the video evidence.

Ask yourself: what can you do to improve cycling environment in London? For me, it comes down to three things: not riding like a dick, contributing to lobbying (LCC membership, attending council meetings etc.), and - finally - ensuring that 'bad things' don't get ignored. Hence the camera. When we have the same environment as Amsterdam then I'll be more than happy to chuck the camera in the recycling bin.

(Also, the driver of that arctic is an arse, but those cyclists should never have been trying to jump ahead from a turning lane. Russian roulette.)

rick_chasey

Well, in fairness, that'll be because the full length video (where I feature rather more heavily) has been taken down!

Which is a result.

awavey

Rick Chasey wrote:

Well, in fairness, that'll be because the full length video (where I feature rather more heavily) has been taken down!

Which is a result.

yeah I almost posted it had gone earlier, but tbf its probably spawned multiple copies across t'internet anyway given its exposure in the media, sorry

fwiw the video guy probably didnt make any money,(or very little at least) at all from it, the newsprint media have a habit of taking anything posted on social media as fair game for free usage,and Ive a feeling its buried in the T&Cs but if you upload content to Youtube, you actually give them equivalent usage rights to your content, as opposed to completely signing it over to them, but they get to do whatever they like with it, so the media probably just deal with youtube instead.

rick_chasey

A bit of snooping has me fairly convinced otherwise (and a close friend who works for one of the papers in which it features)

timothyw

Oh, now that is true, there's certainly money to be made in 'viral' videos, hence the abundance of fake ones (such as that lady cyclist tearing off the van's wing mirror).

MrSweary

Rick Chasey wrote:

It also confirms my view that the camera wearing lot arnt in it for the noble reason of evidence when sh!t goes wrong.

Oh them.. Bastards!

mattsaw

I think the idiocy of your boss is the main thing that deserves a rant here.

What exactly was he complaining about? One of his employees had the audacity to be filmed while going innocently about their daily business?

Were you commuting naked apart from the company logo emblazoned across your butt cheeks?

rick_chasey

Actually can't believe the defence of the indefensible of posting the video online.

If he wants evidence, send it to insurers or the police.

Otherwise he can stop being such a little f*cking stasiman and broadcasting to all and sundry.

Tempted to pay someone to film him whoever he steps out in public Scientology style and the second he steps out of line post it on every video site I can.

davis

Cutting through the woods on the way in this morning my foot caught a bramble and I stopped dead (or maybe the bike stayed still and I carried on, who knows?) over the bars to land on my face.

Scratched up the brand new lenses in my sunglasses.

Every time I get new kit I end up going base over apex and damaging it. Disappointed someone wasn't filming it to post on the internet, tbh.

dhope

Rick Chasey wrote:

Actually can't believe the defence of the indefensible of posting the video online.

If he wants evidence, send it to insurers or the police.

Otherwise he can stop being such a little f*cking stasiman and broadcasting to all and sundry.

Tempted to pay someone to film him whoever he steps out in public Scientology style and the second he steps out of line post it on every video site I can.

You can't just jump from Nazi Germany to Scientology, you're diluting the rant with this laziness.

mudcovered

Rick Chasey wrote:

Actually can't believe the defence of the indefensible of posting the video online.

Why do you think its indefensible? Taking pictures and video in a public place is not illegal and neither is posting them to the internet. Our freedom to do that actually helps defend us against being a police state as that allows individuals to film the police if they think they are acting out of line and draw attention to it rather than the police having the power to sieze the footage and prevent it going anywhere which is what could happen if it wasn't.

It sucks that your boss has a rather strange attitude to his staff appearing in online video attached to a newspaper article but that's more his problem than anything else. If you weren't doing anything illegal or something that could bring your company into disrepute (which seems unlikely) then I have no idea why he cares.

Mike

MrSweary

dhope wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Actually can't believe the defence of the indefensible of posting the video online.

If he wants evidence, send it to insurers or the police.

Otherwise he can stop being such a little f*cking stasiman and broadcasting to all and sundry.

Tempted to pay someone to film him whoever he steps out in public Scientology style and the second he steps out of line post it on every video site I can.

You can't just jump from Nazi Germany to Scientology, you're diluting the rant with this laziness.

I disagree. The more irrational and random it gets the more I like it!

dhope

MrSweary wrote:

dhope wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Actually can't believe the defence of the indefensible of posting the video online.

If he wants evidence, send it to insurers or the police.

Otherwise he can stop being such a little f*cking stasiman and broadcasting to all and sundry.

Tempted to pay someone to film him whoever he steps out in public Scientology style and the second he steps out of line post it on every video site I can.

You can't just jump from Nazi Germany to Scientology, you're diluting the rant with this laziness.

I disagree. The more irrational and random it gets the more I like it!

rick_chasey

mudcovered wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Actually can't believe the defence of the indefensible of posting the video online.

Why do you think its indefensible? Taking pictures and video in a public place is not illegal and neither is posting them to the internet. Our freedom to do that actually helps defend us against being a police state as that allows individuals to film the police if they think they are acting out of line and draw attention to it rather than the police having the power to sieze the footage and prevent it going anywhere which is what could happen if it wasn't.


Mike

He's not filming the rozzers though is he?

mudcovered

Rick Chasey wrote:

He's not filming the rozzers though is he?

Don't see how that makes a difference. The law is the same for everybody, both you and the police. Why should you have a special defence. Were you specifically named or identified in the video? I'm just struggling to see why your appearance in it upsets you so much. If the video was shot in a location where you had an expectation of privacy it would be a different matter but a London street is unlikely to qualify there.

Mike

rick_chasey

I don't want my f*ckig mug in the daily mail because I happened to be there and wanted to make sure details were exchanged as I have had bad experiences on the other side.

I don't want to be in the paper. End of. Given in this instance I wasn't the subject of the video, I don't see why I need to have my mug put out in public for all to see.

I don't see why that's so unreasonable. I think it's common decency to respect whether bystanders want to have that respected.

Its not a question of the law.

Genuinely I probably won't help out others in this situation in the future to make sure this doesn't happen again.

I can see why the guy who helped me by stopping a guy who was kicking me on the floor, breaking 3 ribs didn't want to offer his details because he didn't want the grief.

If I want to keep my mug out of the paper, I'm not gonna stop to help people anymore.

cougie

Watch this space for shocking footage of the guy that wasn't the good Samaritan.

So you're in a video. It's hardly the end of days is it. It'll be last weeks news er well this week I guess. Please pick up the tatters of your Life and try to move on.

dinyull

In the video....and pointed out to everyone on here he's in the video despite not actually wanting to be in the video or for anyone to know he's in the video.

rick_chasey

Bit of a difference between pseudonyms and using your actual name :P.