Richmond Park 3-lap Challenge - 2008

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  • wackyjack
    wackyjack Posts: 6
    Sorry Silverfox but I've moved up another one - only took me two months to gain a minute and a half - At this rate I'll be top in 20 years

    Name................................Direction.........Mass.......Time.....Month......T.O.R.
    AndrewBye.................. ...3laps/anti........74kg.......48:45......Apr..........Elite RR
    Superlightweight...............3laps/anti........81kg.......49:25......May.........2catRR / TTer.
    KingstonWheeler..............3laps/anti........68kg.......51:59......Apr...........3CatRR
    mark_d..............................3 laps/anti.......60kg.......52:10.....May............3CatRR
    naked_ollie........................3 laps/anti.......75kg.......52:44.....May............
    seabadger........................3 laps/anti.......78kg.......52:51......May...........
    Mookie..............................3 laps/clock....65kg.......52:58......Apr............
    Toks..................................3laps/Anti.......72kg.......53.47.....May............3 CatRR
    MatHammond..................3laps/Anti.......85kg.......53.50......May............
    Grazer....................... ......3 laps/anti.......78kg.......54.00......May............ Tri/Sportive
    Matthew.t.........................3laps/Anti.......71kg.......54.12......May...........
    BrianMc............................3 laps/anti.......76kg.......54:29......Apr............
    CJ.....................................3laps/anti........79kg.......54:33......May............
    Merrick.............................3 laps/anti.......72kg.......55.00......May...........
    Damo................................3laps/Anti.......lightkg......55.10.....May............4thCatRR
    JonGinge .........................3laps/anti........67Kg......55:25.....May............ Club
    Molman.............................3laps/Anti.......87kg......55.31.......May............
    Tin man.............................3 laps/Anti......68kg......55:41.......May............Sportive/Tri
    rolo tumazi.......................3laps/anti........75kg...... 55:41......May............
    francist.............................3 laps/Anti......71kg.......56:03.....July...........
    Gradiric............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......56.40......May............
    Bush75.............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......57.01.....May............
    Georgee...........................3laps/Anti.......82kg.......57.17.....May............Sportive/Club
    RedGreenBaron...............3laps/anti........70kg.......57:30.....May............
    akp....................................3laps/anti........76kg......57.40......May...........
    Onehipwonder.................3laps/Anti........82kg......58:12......May............Club/sportive
    POD................................3laps/anti........84Kg.......58:19......June......... Returning racer Guinea..............................3laps/anti........84kg.......58:23......May..........
    JL.....................................3 laps/anti........75kg.......58:30......May..........
    toontra..............................3laps/Anti........71kg...... 58.41.....May............
    AmateurDC.................... ..3 laps/anti.......88kg.......58:45......Mar............
    Shane p............................3laps/anti........64Kg.......58:45......Feb............
    Statts................................3laps/Anti....... 72kg...... 59.15.....May............Sportive / fit
    Tacker...............................3laps/anti........ 83kg...... 59.20.... June......... Sportive / lonely!
    Alan Sherman..................3 laps/clock.... 82kg.......59:21.....May...........3rd cat RR
    Neil Denning ....................3 laps/anti.......60kg........59:40.....Jun............Sportives
    bikecarbike........................3laps/anti.........95kg.......59:43......Jan............ Vet
    Christopher L....................3 laps/anti........90kg.......59.50......May...........Sportives
    ink169...............................3 laps/anti.......77kg.......60.04.....May............ WW
    Pink Steel..........................3 laps/anti.......80kg.......60.25.....June...........
    daveys..............................3laps/anti........75kg.......60.49....May............
    fishnchips..........................3laps/anti........68kg.......61:01....June............
    Rookie...............................3laps/anti.......95kg........61:46.....May...........
    KingstonGraham..............3laps/anti.......76kg........61:46.....June..........
    KMahony ........... ....... .....3laps/Anti........95kg.......63:05......Apr............
    Les shaw.........................3laps/Anti.......66kg........ 63:47.....Apr............
    Gussio..............................3laps/Anti........87kg.......63:48......Apr............
    The Emu....................... ...3laps/Anti.........88kg.......63.58.....May............
    Christ-on-a-bike!..............3laps/Anti....... 78kg.......64:30......Feb............
    London-Red.............. ......3laps/anti.........84kg.......64:36......May............
    RichA...............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......64.47.......May............Sportives Hobbes............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......66.00......Mar............
    Sfelt.................................2Cl/1Anti..........93..........66.05........June.........FBHH:-)Expatbore........................3laps/anti.........85kg.......66.35.......May............
    urrrrrrrrrs.........................3laps/anti.......105kg.......66.55......May............
    caw35slr..........................3laps/anti.......100kg.......67.15......May..........fat cyclist
    biondino..........................3laps/anti........79kg.......68.47......June...........
    Greenbank.......................3laps/anti.........79kg......69:08......May............
    Rich-Ti............................3laps/anti.........93kg......70:46......June............First timer
    Wackyjack...................... 3 laps/Anti........90kg......71.06......July............
    Silverfox 72......................3laps/anti.........80kg.....71:54......May............
    Snakehips........................3laps/anti.........77kg......74.10......May............ fitness
  • Shavedlegs
    Shavedlegs Posts: 310
    It's been a long time since I've managed to get any training into my schedule and even longer since I've been to Richmond Park.

    So after a week of fantastic weather I snatch some time on Sunday. In the rain and wind, I should have known since it was the Wimbledon final but hey.

    If the weather wasn't the problem then the traffic would have been, there wasn't much of it but but what there was dawdled and seemed to park at roundabouts (can you be lost in Richmond Park?)

    Anyway I got in my 3 wet laps - 53.18.
    http://www.buycycles.co.uk
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    45 seconds off the time - just got new pedals and shoes which ive never used before so should be interesting to see if a) they improve my time b) i can use them without falling off everytime i come to a stop.

    Name................................Direction.........Mass.......Time.....Month......T.O.R.
    AndrewBye.................. ...3laps/anti........74kg.......48:45......Apr..........Elite RR
    Superlightweight...............3laps/anti........81kg.......49:25......May.........2catRR / TTer.
    KingstonWheeler..............3laps/anti........68kg.......51:59......Apr...........3CatRR
    mark_d..............................3 laps/anti.......60kg.......52:10.....May............3CatRR
    naked_ollie........................3 laps/anti.......75kg.......52:44.....May............
    seabadger........................3 laps/anti.......78kg.......52:51......May...........
    Mookie..............................3 laps/clock....65kg.......52:58......Apr............
    Toks..................................3laps/Anti.......72kg.......53.47.....May............3 CatRR
    MatHammond..................3laps/Anti.......85kg.......53.50......May............
    Grazer....................... ......3 laps/anti.......78kg.......54.00......May............ Tri/Sportive
    Matthew.t.........................3laps/Anti.......71kg.......54.12......May...........
    BrianMc............................3 laps/anti.......76kg.......54:29......Apr............
    CJ.....................................3laps/anti........79kg.......54:33......May............
    Merrick.............................3 laps/anti.......72kg.......55.00......May...........
    Damo................................3laps/Anti.......lightkg......55.10.....May............4thCatRR
    JonGinge .........................3laps/anti........67Kg......55:25.....May............ Club
    Molman.............................3laps/Anti.......87kg......55.31.......May............
    Tin man.............................3 laps/Anti......68kg......55:41.......May............Sportive/Tri
    rolo tumazi.......................3laps/anti........75kg...... 55:41......May............
    francist.............................3 laps/Anti......71kg.......56:03.....July...........
    Gradiric............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......56.40......May............
    Bush75.............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......57.01.....May............
    Georgee...........................3laps/Anti.......82kg.......57.17.....May............Sportive/Club
    RedGreenBaron...............3laps/anti........70kg.......57:30.....May............
    akp....................................3laps/anti........76kg......57.40......May...........
    Onehipwonder.................3laps/Anti........82kg......58:12......May............Club/sportive
    POD................................3laps/anti........84Kg.......58:19......June......... Returning racer Guinea..............................3laps/anti........84kg.......58:23......May..........
    JL.....................................3 laps/anti........75kg.......58:30......May..........
    toontra..............................3laps/Anti........71kg...... 58.41.....May............
    AmateurDC.................... ..3 laps/anti.......88kg.......58:45......Mar............
    Shane p............................3laps/anti........64Kg.......58:45......Feb............
    Statts................................3laps/Anti....... 72kg...... 59.15.....May............Sportive / fit
    Tacker...............................3laps/anti........ 83kg...... 59.20.... June......... Sportive / lonely!
    Alan Sherman..................3 laps/clock.... 82kg.......59:21.....May...........3rd cat RR
    Neil Denning ....................3 laps/anti.......60kg........59:40.....Jun............Sportives
    bikecarbike........................3laps/anti.........95kg.......59:43......Jan............ Vet
    Christopher L....................3 laps/anti........90kg.......59.50......May...........Sportives
    ink169...............................3 laps/anti.......77kg.......60.04.....May............ WW
    Pink Steel..........................3 laps/anti.......80kg.......60.25.....June...........
    daveys..............................3laps/anti........75kg.......60.49....May............
    Rookie...............................3laps/anti........92kg.......61:00.....July............
    fishnchips..........................3laps/anti........68kg.......61:01....June............
    KingstonGraham..............3laps/anti.......76kg........61:46.....June..........
    KMahony ........... ....... .....3laps/Anti........95kg.......63:05......Apr............
    Les shaw.........................3laps/Anti.......66kg........ 63:47.....Apr............
    Gussio..............................3laps/Anti........87kg.......63:48......Apr............
    The Emu....................... ...3laps/Anti.........88kg.......63.58.....May............
    Christ-on-a-bike!..............3laps/Anti....... 78kg.......64:30......Feb............
    London-Red.............. ......3laps/anti.........84kg.......64:36......May............
    RichA...............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......64.47.......May............Sportives Hobbes............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......66.00......Mar............
    Sfelt.................................2Cl/1Anti..........93..........66.05........June.........FBHH:-)Expatbore........................3laps/anti.........85kg.......66.35.......May............
    urrrrrrrrrs.........................3laps/anti.......105kg.......66.55......May............
    caw35slr..........................3laps/anti.......100kg.......67.15......May..........fat cyclist
    biondino..........................3laps/anti........79kg.......68.47......June...........
    Greenbank.......................3laps/anti.........79kg......69:08......May............
    Rich-Ti............................3laps/anti.........93kg......70:46......June............First timer
    Wackyjack...................... 3 laps/Anti........90kg......71.06......July............
    Silverfox 72......................3laps/anti.........80kg.....71:54......May............
    Snakehips........................3laps/anti.........77kg......74.10......May............ fitness
  • POD1
    POD1 Posts: 15
    Went out on Friday to find the wind not in my face (for once) and knocked a minute something off my previous best. I thought I was doing well to take 6 weeks to knock nearly 3 minutes off my first effort to my current time...until I see others knocking huge chunks off/aiming to knock huge chunks in a fraction of that time. Oh well...time to train harder!

    Name................................Direction.........Mass.......Time.....Month......T.O.R.
    AndrewBye.................. ...3laps/anti........74kg.......48:45......Apr..........Elite RR
    Superlightweight...............3laps/anti........81kg.......49:25......May.........2catRR / TTer.
    KingstonWheeler..............3laps/anti........68kg.......51:59......Apr...........3CatRR
    mark_d..............................3 laps/anti.......60kg.......52:10.....May............3CatRR
    naked_ollie........................3 laps/anti.......75kg.......52:44.....May............
    seabadger........................3 laps/anti.......78kg.......52:51......May...........
    Mookie..............................3 laps/clock....65kg.......52:58......Apr............
    Toks..................................3laps/Anti.......72kg.......53.47.....May............3 CatRR
    MatHammond..................3laps/Anti.......85kg.......53.50......May............
    Grazer....................... ......3 laps/anti.......78kg.......54.00......May............ Tri/Sportive
    Matthew.t.........................3laps/Anti.......71kg.......54.12......May...........
    BrianMc............................3 laps/anti.......76kg.......54:29......Apr............
    CJ.....................................3laps/anti........79kg.......54:33......May............
    Merrick.............................3 laps/anti.......72kg.......55.00......May...........
    Damo................................3laps/Anti.......lightkg......55.10.....May............4thCatRR
    JonGinge .........................3laps/anti........67Kg......55:25.....May............ Club
    Molman.............................3laps/Anti.......87kg......55.31.......May............
    Tin man.............................3 laps/Anti......68kg......55:41.......May............Sportive/Tri
    rolo tumazi.......................3laps/anti........75kg...... 55:41......May............
    francist.............................3 laps/Anti......71kg.......56:03.....July...........
    Gradiric............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......56.40......May............
    Bush75.............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......57.01.....May............
    POD................................3laps/anti........83Kg.......57:14......June......... Returning racer
    Georgee...........................3laps/Anti.......82kg.......57.17.....May............Sportive/Club
    RedGreenBaron...............3laps/anti........70kg.......57:30.....May............
    akp....................................3laps/anti........76kg......57.40......May...........
    Onehipwonder.................3laps/Anti........82kg......58:12......May............Club/sportive
    Guinea..............................3laps/anti........84kg.......58:23......May..........
    JL.....................................3 laps/anti........75kg.......58:30......May..........
    toontra..............................3laps/Anti........71kg...... 58.41.....May............
    AmateurDC.................... ..3 laps/anti.......88kg.......58:45......Mar............
    Shane p............................3laps/anti........64Kg.......58:45......Feb............
    Statts................................3laps/Anti....... 72kg...... 59.15.....May............Sportive / fit
    Tacker...............................3laps/anti........ 83kg...... 59.20.... June......... Sportive / lonely!
    Alan Sherman..................3 laps/clock.... 82kg.......59:21.....May...........3rd cat RR
    Neil Denning ....................3 laps/anti.......60kg........59:40.....Jun............Sportives
    bikecarbike........................3laps/anti.........95kg.......59:43......Jan............ Vet
    Christopher L....................3 laps/anti........90kg.......59.50......May...........Sportives
    ink169...............................3 laps/anti.......77kg.......60.04.....May............ WW
    Pink Steel..........................3 laps/anti.......80kg.......60.25.....June...........
    daveys..............................3laps/anti........75kg.......60.49....May............
    fishnchips..........................3laps/anti........68kg.......61:01....June............
    Rookie...............................3laps/anti.......95kg........61:46.....May...........
    KingstonGraham..............3laps/anti.......76kg........61:46.....June..........
    KMahony ........... ....... .....3laps/Anti........95kg.......63:05......Apr............
    Les shaw.........................3laps/Anti.......66kg........ 63:47.....Apr............
    Gussio..............................3laps/Anti........87kg.......63:48......Apr............
    The Emu....................... ...3laps/Anti.........88kg.......63.58.....May............
    Christ-on-a-bike!..............3laps/Anti....... 78kg.......64:30......Feb............
    London-Red.............. ......3laps/anti.........84kg.......64:36......May............
    RichA...............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......64.47.......May............Sportives Hobbes............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......66.00......Mar............
    Sfelt.................................2Cl/1Anti..........93..........66.05........June.........FBHH:-)Expatbore........................3laps/anti.........85kg.......66.35.......May............
    urrrrrrrrrs.........................3laps/anti.......105kg.......66.55......May............
    caw35slr..........................3laps/anti.......100kg.......67.15......May..........fat cyclist
    biondino..........................3laps/anti........79kg.......68.47......June...........
    Greenbank.......................3laps/anti.........79kg......69:08......May............
    Rich-Ti............................3laps/anti.........93kg......70:46......June............First timer
    Wackyjack...................... 3 laps/Anti........90kg......71.06......July............
    Silverfox 72......................3laps/anti.........80kg.....71:54......May............
    Snakehips........................3laps/anti.........77kg......74.10......May............ fitness
  • shane p
    shane p Posts: 5
    Went out on Saturday for 3 laps of the park after several races and sportives to see how much I have improved...a strong head wind for 2 sides of the loop and traffic made me work for a 2.30 time saving. I've been a bit lazy in the past few weeks so blame that for not making a bigger dent in my time.

    Name................................Direction.........Mass.......Time.....Month......T.O.R.
    AndrewBye.................. ...3laps/anti........74kg.......48:45......Apr..........Elite RR
    Superlightweight...............3laps/anti........81kg.......49:25......May.........2catRR / TTer.
    KingstonWheeler..............3laps/anti........68kg.......51:59......Apr...........3CatRR
    mark_d..............................3 laps/anti.......60kg.......52:10.....May............3CatRR
    naked_ollie........................3 laps/anti.......75kg.......52:44.....May............
    seabadger........................3 laps/anti.......78kg.......52:51......May...........
    Mookie..............................3 laps/clock....65kg.......52:58......Apr............
    Toks..................................3laps/Anti.......72kg.......53.47.....May............3 CatRR
    MatHammond..................3laps/Anti.......85kg.......53.50......May............
    Grazer....................... ......3 laps/anti.......78kg.......54.00......May............ Tri/Sportive
    Matthew.t.........................3laps/Anti.......71kg.......54.12......May...........
    BrianMc............................3 laps/anti.......76kg.......54:29......Apr............
    CJ.....................................3laps/anti........79kg.......54:33......May............
    Merrick.............................3 laps/anti.......72kg.......55.00......May...........
    Damo................................3laps/Anti.......lightkg......55.10.....May............4thCatRR
    JonGinge .........................3laps/anti........67Kg......55:25.....May............ Club
    Molman.............................3laps/Anti.......87kg......55.31.......May............
    Tin man.............................3 laps/Anti......68kg......55:41.......May............Sportive/Tri
    rolo tumazi.......................3laps/anti........75kg...... 55:41......May............
    francist.............................3 laps/Anti......71kg.......56:03.....July...........
    Shane p.............................3 laps/Anti......64kg.......56:12.....July...........4thCatRR
    Gradiric............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......56.40......May............
    Bush75.............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......57.01.....May............
    POD................................3laps/anti........83Kg.......57:14......June......... Returning racer
    Georgee...........................3laps/Anti.......82kg.......57.17.....May............Sportive/Club
    RedGreenBaron...............3laps/anti........70kg.......57:30.....May............
    akp....................................3laps/anti........76kg......57.40......May...........
    Onehipwonder.................3laps/Anti........82kg......58:12......May............Club/sportive
    Guinea..............................3laps/anti........84kg.......58:23......May..........
    JL.....................................3 laps/anti........75kg.......58:30......May..........
    toontra..............................3laps/Anti........71kg...... 58.41.....May............
    AmateurDC.................... ..3 laps/anti.......88kg.......58:45......Mar............
    Statts................................3laps/Anti....... 72kg...... 59.15.....May............Sportive / fit
    Tacker...............................3laps/anti........ 83kg...... 59.20.... June......... Sportive / lonely!
    Alan Sherman..................3 laps/clock.... 82kg.......59:21.....May...........3rd cat RR
    Neil Denning ....................3 laps/anti.......60kg........59:40.....Jun............Sportives
    bikecarbike........................3laps/anti.........95kg.......59:43......Jan............ Vet
    Christopher L....................3 laps/anti........90kg.......59.50......May...........Sportives
    ink169...............................3 laps/anti.......77kg.......60.04.....May............ WW
    Pink Steel..........................3 laps/anti.......80kg.......60.25.....June...........
    daveys..............................3laps/anti........75kg.......60.49....May............
    fishnchips..........................3laps/anti........68kg.......61:01....June............
    Rookie...............................3laps/anti.......95kg........61:46.....May...........
    KingstonGraham..............3laps/anti.......76kg........61:46.....June..........
    KMahony ........... ....... .....3laps/Anti........95kg.......63:05......Apr............
    Les shaw.........................3laps/Anti.......66kg........ 63:47.....Apr............
    Gussio..............................3laps/Anti........87kg.......63:48......Apr............
    The Emu....................... ...3laps/Anti.........88kg.......63.58.....May............
    Christ-on-a-bike!..............3laps/Anti....... 78kg.......64:30......Feb............
    London-Red.............. ......3laps/anti.........84kg.......64:36......May............
    RichA...............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......64.47.......May............Sportives Hobbes............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......66.00......Mar............
    Sfelt.................................2Cl/1Anti..........93..........66.05........June.........FBHH:-)Expatbore........................3laps/anti.........85kg.......66.35.......May............
    urrrrrrrrrs.........................3laps/anti.......105kg.......66.55......May............
    caw35slr..........................3laps/anti.......100kg.......67.15......May..........fat cyclist
    biondino..........................3laps/anti........79kg.......68.47......June...........
    Greenbank.......................3laps/anti.........79kg......69:08......May............
    Rich-Ti............................3laps/anti.........93kg......70:46......June............First timer
    Wackyjack...................... 3 laps/Anti........90kg......71.06......July............
    Silverfox 72......................3laps/anti.........80kg.....71:54......May............
    Snakehips........................3laps/anti.........77kg......74.10......May............ fitness
  • Pink Steel
    Pink Steel Posts: 4
    Do you people who do Richmond regularly find that a still day generally gives rise to a better lap time? My aerodynamic knowledge isn't good enough to work out whether a wind helps and hinders in equal measure (i.e. makes no difference) in a circular loop, or if stillness serves better. My instinct and experience reckons wind can push you up a hill but, climbing the lee side, can't really push you down much, so maybe windy days are suited to one direction on the loop? What do you regulars say?
  • felgen
    felgen Posts: 829
    What a great and inspiring thread! I have just spent about 2 hours reading the whole thing, and decided the take the plunge and register!

    I am already commuting 20 miles daily to and from work down in Devon and have been doing so for a couple of months, my fitness is coming along. The best thing is I am moving very close to RP in July, so I hope to see some of you out there when I get riding some time in Late July/early August. I have the green light from missus for a new bike too ;) I will post a time as soon as I can.

    Oh and Pink Steel - air resistance quadruples for a doulbling of speed (i.e. speed squared) so it is definitely an advatage to have no wind, or if you do have wind then try to make it in your face on the slower parts i.e. the climbs (I think you reasoned this anyway)

    Happy Riding!
    Steeds:
    1)Planet X SL Pro carbon
    2)Nelson Pista Singlespeed
    3)Giant Cadex MTB
    4)BeOne Karma MTB
  • guinea
    guinea Posts: 1,177
    Pink Steel wrote:
    Do you people who do Richmond regularly find that a still day generally gives rise to a better lap time? My aerodynamic knowledge isn't good enough to work out whether a wind helps and hinders in equal measure (i.e. makes no difference) in a circular loop, or if stillness serves better. My instinct and experience reckons wind can push you up a hill but, climbing the lee side, can't really push you down much, so maybe windy days are suited to one direction on the loop? What do you regulars say?

    On an anti clockwise loop I am far faster on an east wind.

    When the wind is coming from the west it adds a lot of time on the stretch to Richmond Gate, if it's bad it can mean a 13mph grind. On an easterly I travel at 20mph+ all the way up that drag including the hill at the end.

    I've never had no wind at all. Only been about 50 times :)
  • Ramekin
    Ramekin Posts: 30
    This is a great thread! I saw last year's version and living in Putney had been meaning to pop over to the park to see what time I could do.

    So I had a go today around lunchtime on my singlespeed. Probably just about the worse choice of day/time ever what with all the Sunday traffic and a sponsored ride clogging up the road anti-clockwise between Roehampton and Richmond gates meaning I changed direction after the first lap and did the last two clockwise!

    But I managed a 58:47 anyway and as I was aiming for under an hour am happy with that. I'd hope to shave some further time off when there is less traffic. We'll see!

    Name................................Direction.........Mass.......Time.....Month......T.O.R.
    AndrewBye.................. ...3laps/anti........74kg.......48:45......Apr..........Elite RR
    Superlightweight...............3laps/anti........81kg.......49:25......May.........2catRR / TTer.
    KingstonWheeler..............3laps/anti........68kg.......51:59......Apr...........3CatRR
    mark_d..............................3 laps/anti.......60kg.......52:10.....May............3CatRR
    naked_ollie........................3 laps/anti.......75kg.......52:44.....May............
    seabadger........................3 laps/anti.......78kg.......52:51......May...........
    Mookie..............................3 laps/clock....65kg.......52:58......Apr............
    Toks..................................3laps/Anti.......72kg.......53.47.....May............3 CatRR
    MatHammond..................3laps/Anti.......85kg.......53.50......May............
    Grazer....................... ......3 laps/anti.......78kg.......54.00......May............ Tri/Sportive
    Matthew.t.........................3laps/Anti.......71kg.......54.12......May...........
    BrianMc............................3 laps/anti.......76kg.......54:29......Apr............
    CJ.....................................3laps/anti........79kg.......54:33......May............
    Merrick.............................3 laps/anti.......72kg.......55.00......May...........
    Damo................................3laps/Anti.......lightkg......55.10.....May............4thCatRR
    JonGinge .........................3laps/anti........67Kg......55:25.....May............ Club
    Molman.............................3laps/Anti.......87kg......55.31.......May............
    Tin man.............................3 laps/Anti......68kg......55:41.......May............Sportive/Tri
    rolo tumazi.......................3laps/anti........75kg...... 55:41......May............
    francist.............................3 laps/Anti......71kg.......56:03.....July...........
    Shane p.............................3 laps/Anti......64kg.......56:12.....July...........4thCatRR
    Gradiric............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......56.40......May............
    Bush75.............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......57.01.....May............
    POD................................3laps/anti........83Kg.......57:14......June......... Returning racer
    Georgee...........................3laps/Anti.......82kg.......57.17.....May............Sportive/Club
    RedGreenBaron...............3laps/anti........70kg.......57:30.....May............
    akp....................................3laps/anti........76kg......57.40......May...........
    Onehipwonder.................3laps/Anti........82kg......58:12......May............Club/sportive
    Guinea..............................3laps/anti........84kg.......58:23......May..........
    JL.....................................3 laps/anti........75kg.......58:30......May..........
    toontra..............................3laps/Anti........71kg...... 58.41.....May............
    AmateurDC.................... ..3 laps/anti.......88kg.......58:45......Mar............
    Ramekin..........................3 laps/ 1 x anti + 2 x clock.......76kg.......58:47......July............Fitness
    Statts................................3laps/Anti....... 72kg...... 59.15.....May............Sportive / fit
    Tacker...............................3laps/anti........ 83kg...... 59.20.... June......... Sportive / lonely!
    Alan Sherman..................3 laps/clock.... 82kg.......59:21.....May...........3rd cat RR
    Neil Denning ....................3 laps/anti.......60kg........59:40.....Jun............Sportives
    bikecarbike........................3laps/anti.........95kg.......59:43......Jan............ Vet
    Christopher L....................3 laps/anti........90kg.......59.50......May...........Sportives
    ink169...............................3 laps/anti.......77kg.......60.04.....May............ WW
    Pink Steel..........................3 laps/anti.......80kg.......60.25.....June...........
    daveys..............................3laps/anti........75kg.......60.49....May............
    fishnchips..........................3laps/anti........68kg.......61:01....June............
    Rookie...............................3laps/anti.......95kg........61:46.....May...........
    KingstonGraham..............3laps/anti.......76kg........61:46.....June..........
    KMahony ........... ....... .....3laps/Anti........95kg.......63:05......Apr............
    Les shaw.........................3laps/Anti.......66kg........ 63:47.....Apr............
    Gussio..............................3laps/Anti........87kg.......63:48......Apr............
    The Emu....................... ...3laps/Anti.........88kg.......63.58.....May............
    Christ-on-a-bike!..............3laps/Anti....... 78kg.......64:30......Feb............
    London-Red.............. ......3laps/anti.........84kg.......64:36......May............
    RichA...............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......64.47.......May............Sportives
    Hobbes............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......66.00......Mar............
    Sfelt.................................2Cl/1Anti..........93..........66.05........June.........FBHH:-)
    Expatbore........................3laps/anti.........85kg.......66.35.......May............
    urrrrrrrrrs.........................3laps/anti.......105kg.......66.55......May............
    caw35slr..........................3laps/anti.......100kg.......67.15......May..........fat cyclist
    biondino..........................3laps/anti........79kg.......68.47......June...........
    Greenbank.......................3laps/anti.........79kg......69:08......May............
    Rich-Ti............................3laps/anti.........93kg......70:46......June............First timer
    Wackyjack...................... 3 laps/Anti........90kg......71.06......July............
    Silverfox 72......................3laps/anti.........80kg.....71:54......May............
    Snakehips........................3laps/anti.........77kg......74.10......May............ fitness
  • Shavedlegs
    Shavedlegs Posts: 310
    Grrr.

    Well on my way to a cracking time, first to laps in 32 mins, but held up badly by cars on the final lap for a 51.10.

    Not really the cars fault as they were held up by large group of cylists.

    Anyway next time....
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  • Toks
    Toks Posts: 1,143
    Shavedlegs wrote:
    Grrr.

    Well on my way to a cracking time, first to laps in 32 mins, but held up badly by cars on the final lap for a 51.10.

    Not really the cars fault as they were held up by large group of cylists.

    Anyway next time....
    Excellent ride Alex. Aren't you gonna put yourself on the list? I was confused by your blog. "...I know riders who enter 2 races a week, I'm 1 every 6 weeks. This makes it very hard to accumulate points, I got my 40 to make 2nd Cat in 5 races. I now need 40 points to stay there. I can't wait and play the game for 1st place. If I can make certain of 6 points early in the race, that is what I'll do..." You're already a 2nd cat you don't need an additional 40 points to stay there. But next year you'll need 25 points to remain a 2nd cat :D
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  • AmateurDC
    AmateurDC Posts: 26
    Name................................Direction.........Mass.......Time.....Month......T.O.R.
    AndrewBye.................. ...3laps/anti........74kg.......48:45......Apr..........Elite RR
    Superlightweight...............3laps/anti........81kg.......49:25......May.........2catRR / TTer.
    KingstonWheeler..............3laps/anti........68kg.......51:59......Apr...........3CatRR
    mark_d..............................3 laps/anti.......60kg.......52:10.....May............3CatRR
    naked_ollie........................3 laps/anti.......75kg.......52:44.....May............
    seabadger........................3 laps/anti.......78kg.......52:51......May...........
    Mookie..............................3 laps/clock....65kg.......52:58......Apr............
    Toks..................................3laps/Anti.......72kg.......53.47.....May............3 CatRR
    AmateurDC.....................3laps/Anti........85kg.......53.48......July............None
    MatHammond..................3laps/Anti.......85kg.......53.50......May............
    Grazer....................... ......3 laps/anti.......78kg.......54.00......May............ Tri/Sportive
    Matthew.t.........................3laps/Anti.......71kg.......54.12......May...........
    BrianMc............................3 laps/anti.......76kg.......54:29......Apr............
    CJ.....................................3laps/anti........79kg.......54:33......May............
    Merrick.............................3 laps/anti.......72kg.......55.00......May...........
    Damo................................3laps/Anti.......lightkg......55.10.....May............4thCatRR
    JonGinge .........................3laps/anti........67Kg......55:25.....May............ Club
    Molman.............................3laps/Anti.......87kg......55.31.......May............
    Tin man.............................3 laps/Anti......68kg......55:41.......May............Sportive/Tri
    rolo tumazi.......................3laps/anti........75kg...... 55:41......May............
    francist.............................3 laps/Anti......71kg.......56:03.....July...........
    Gradiric............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......56.40......May............
    Bush75.............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......57.01.....May............
    Georgee...........................3laps/Anti.......82kg.......57.17.....May............Sportive/Club
    RedGreenBaron...............3laps/anti........70kg.......57:30.....May............
    akp....................................3laps/anti........76kg......57.40......May...........
    Onehipwonder.................3laps/Anti........82kg......58:12......May............Club/sportive
    POD................................3laps/anti........84Kg.......58:19......June......... Returning racer Guinea..............................3laps/anti........84kg.......58:23......May..........
    JL.....................................3 laps/anti........75kg.......58:30......May..........
    toontra..............................3laps/Anti........71kg...... 58.41.....May............
    Shane p............................3laps/anti........64Kg.......58:45......Feb............
    Statts................................3laps/Anti....... 72kg...... 59.15.....May............Sportive / fit
    Tacker...............................3laps/anti........ 83kg...... 59.20.... June......... Sportive / lonely!
    Alan Sherman..................3 laps/clock.... 82kg.......59:21.....May...........3rd cat RR
    Neil Denning ....................3 laps/anti.......60kg........59:40.....Jun............Sportives
    bikecarbike........................3laps/anti.........95kg.......59:43......Jan............ Vet
    Christopher L....................3 laps/anti........90kg.......59.50......May...........Sportives
    ink169...............................3 laps/anti.......77kg.......60.04.....May............ WW
    Pink Steel..........................3 laps/anti.......80kg.......60.25.....June...........
    daveys..............................3laps/anti........75kg.......60.49....May............
    fishnchips..........................3laps/anti........68kg.......61:01....June............
    Rookie...............................3laps/anti.......95kg........61:46.....May...........
    KingstonGraham..............3laps/anti.......76kg........61:46.....June..........
    KMahony ........... ....... .....3laps/Anti........95kg.......63:05......Apr............
    Les shaw.........................3laps/Anti.......66kg........ 63:47.....Apr............
    Gussio..............................3laps/Anti........87kg.......63:48......Apr............
    The Emu....................... ...3laps/Anti.........88kg.......63.58.....May............
    Christ-on-a-bike!..............3laps/Anti....... 78kg.......64:30......Feb............
    London-Red.............. ......3laps/anti.........84kg.......64:36......May............
    RichA...............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......64.47.......May............Sportives Hobbes............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......66.00......Mar............
    Sfelt.................................2Cl/1Anti..........93..........66.05........June.........FBHH:-)Expatbore........................3laps/anti.........85kg.......66.35.......May............
    urrrrrrrrrs.........................3laps/anti.......105kg.......66.55......May............
    caw35slr..........................3laps/anti.......100kg.......67.15......May..........fat cyclist
    biondino..........................3laps/anti........79kg.......68.47......June...........
    Greenbank.......................3laps/anti.........79kg......69:08......May............
    Rich-Ti............................3laps/anti.........93kg......70:46......June............First timer
    Silverfox 72......................3laps/anti.........80kg.....71:54......May............
    Wackyjack...................... 3 laps/Anti........92kg......72.33......May............
    Snakehips........................3laps/anti.........77kg......74.10......May............ fitness[/quote]

    Oh Dear. I hate climbing. I can deal with it on the first lap, and even the second, but the third I just capitulated, my flat speed is pretty level all the time, but I lose a good chunk of time every time there is a steepish section i.e. up to richmond gate, and the hill by kingston. Guess I'll need to shed some chub.
  • Ramekin
    Ramekin Posts: 30
    edited July 2008
    Nice move up the table AmateurDC!

    These are the current results...

    Name................................Direction.........Mass.......Time.....Month......T.O.R.
    AndrewBye.................. ...3laps/anti........74kg.......48:45......Apr..........Elite RR
    Superlightweight...............3laps/anti........81kg.......49:25......May.........2catRR / TTer.
    KingstonWheeler..............3laps/anti........68kg.......51:59......Apr...........3CatRR
    mark_d..............................3 laps/anti.......60kg.......52:10.....May............3CatRR
    naked_ollie........................3 laps/anti.......75kg.......52:44.....May............
    seabadger........................3 laps/anti.......78kg.......52:51......May...........
    Mookie..............................3 laps/clock....65kg.......52:58......Apr............
    Toks..................................3laps/Anti.......72kg.......53.47.....May............3 CatRR
    AmateurDC.....................3laps/Anti........85kg.......53.48......July............None
    MatHammond..................3laps/Anti.......85kg.......53.50......May............
    Grazer....................... ......3 laps/anti.......78kg.......54.00......May............ Tri/Sportive
    Matthew.t.........................3laps/Anti.......71kg.......54.12......May...........
    BrianMc............................3 laps/anti.......76kg.......54:29......Apr............
    CJ.....................................3laps/anti........79kg.......54:33......May............
    Merrick.............................3 laps/anti.......72kg.......55.00......May...........
    Damo................................3laps/Anti.......lightkg......55.10.....May............4thCatRR
    JonGinge .........................3laps/anti........67Kg......55:25.....May............ Club
    Molman.............................3laps/Anti.......87kg......55.31.......May............
    Tin man.............................3 laps/Anti......68kg......55:41.......May............Sportive/Tri
    rolo tumazi.......................3laps/anti........75kg...... 55:41......May............
    francist.............................3 laps/Anti......71kg.......56:03.....July...........
    Gradiric............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......56.40......May............
    Bush75.............................3laps/Anti.......75kg.......57.01.....May............
    Georgee...........................3laps/Anti.......82kg.......57.17.....May............Sportive/Club
    RedGreenBaron...............3laps/anti........70kg.......57:30.....May............
    akp....................................3laps/anti........76kg......57.40......May...........
    Onehipwonder.................3laps/Anti........82kg......58:12......May............Club/sportive
    POD................................3laps/anti........84Kg.......58:19......June......... Returning racer Guinea..............................3laps/anti........84kg.......58:23......May..........
    JL.....................................3 laps/anti........75kg.......58:30......May..........
    toontra..............................3laps/Anti........71kg...... 58.41.....May............
    Shane p............................3laps/anti........64Kg.......58:45......Feb............
    Ramekin..........................1xAnti + 2xClock.......76kg.......58:47......July............Fitness
    Statts................................3laps/Anti....... 72kg...... 59.15.....May............Sportive / fit
    Tacker...............................3laps/anti........ 83kg...... 59.20.... June......... Sportive / lonely!
    Alan Sherman..................3 laps/clock.... 82kg.......59:21.....May...........3rd cat RR
    Neil Denning ....................3 laps/anti.......60kg........59:40.....Jun............Sportives
    bikecarbike........................3laps/anti.........95kg.......59:43......Jan............ Vet
    Christopher L....................3 laps/anti........90kg.......59.50......May...........Sportives
    ink169...............................3 laps/anti.......77kg.......60.04.....May............ WW
    Pink Steel..........................3 laps/anti.......80kg.......60.25.....June...........
    daveys..............................3laps/anti........75kg.......60.49....May............
    fishnchips..........................3laps/anti........68kg.......61:01....June............
    Rookie...............................3laps/anti.......95kg........61:46.....May...........
    KingstonGraham..............3laps/anti.......76kg........61:46.....June..........
    KMahony ........... ....... .....3laps/Anti........95kg.......63:05......Apr............
    Les shaw.........................3laps/Anti.......66kg........ 63:47.....Apr............
    Gussio..............................3laps/Anti........87kg.......63:48......Apr............
    The Emu....................... ...3laps/Anti.........88kg.......63.58.....May............
    Christ-on-a-bike!..............3laps/Anti....... 78kg.......64:30......Feb............
    London-Red.............. ......3laps/anti.........84kg.......64:36......May............
    RichA...............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......64.47.......May............Sportives Hobbes............................3laps/anti.........95kg.......66.00......Mar............
    Sfelt.................................2Cl/1Anti..........93..........66.05........June.........FBHH:-)
    Expatbore........................3laps/anti.........85kg.......66.35.......May............
    urrrrrrrrrs.........................3laps/anti.......105kg.......66.55......May............
    caw35slr..........................3laps/anti.......100kg.......67.15......May..........fat cyclist
    biondino..........................3laps/anti........79kg.......68.47......June...........
    Greenbank.......................3laps/anti.........79kg......69:08......May............
    Rich-Ti............................3laps/anti.........93kg......70:46......June............First timer
    Silverfox 72......................3laps/anti.........80kg.....71:54......May............
    Wackyjack...................... 3 laps/Anti........92kg......72.33......May............
    Snakehips........................3laps/anti.........77kg......74.10......May............ fitness
  • Shavedlegs
    Shavedlegs Posts: 310
    Cheers James, I figured the TT bike would be cheating, I even swapped my Cosmics for handbuilt wheels. Plenty of time for the podium to change again.

    Toks - that's good news, panic over. May relax a little in races now. If you have any 2/3 Cat races lined me now, be good to see you.

    I'd put my time up but I'm embaressed about my weight at the moment. Too long out of training and the Nutella diet has produced the obvious results. I should get another go at the challenge this week.
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  • AmateurDC
    AmateurDC Posts: 26
    Which way is faster to go along. I find kingston to richmond gate is easier than roehampton to richmond i.e. clock vs. anti. However, the hill beside kingston is the real issue, you can get a long rest and speed going down that hill on the anti route, but if you go clockwise, you have to stop for the busy roundabout/to turn. Any thoughts?
  • Ramekin
    Ramekin Posts: 30
    I reckon the fact that everyone chooses anti is evidence enough that it is the better route

    The advantage of not having to do right-hand turns must surely outweigh any benefits of the clockwise route

    I guess that assumes that people will be doing laps at a time when there may be other traffic around that risks causing delays at the roundabouts

    I've not done late evening runs and had heard that the police were often out with their radar guns at that time...
  • kmahony
    kmahony Posts: 380
    For me, anti clockwise is about a minute a lap quicker.

    Best conditions are with a slight wind (5-10mph) from the east. As someone mentioned above, there's never no wind.

    I've heard there's no traffic early morning, but I'll never be up to find out for myself. Generally there about 7pm which is not so good. Sunday afternoon seems the worse time.
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  • Shavedlegs
    Shavedlegs Posts: 310
    I don't think there is much in it, my times are almost the same either way.
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  • caw35slr
    caw35slr Posts: 439
    I choose anti because none of you would stand a chance if I did it clockwise. ;-)
  • AmateurDC
    AmateurDC Posts: 26
    Does anyone between 55 and 50 minute mark do runs around richmond park. I'm pretty much doing the longest and simplest distance around, on the yellow track at the moment. I just have nothing to gauge my speed against since it is so hilly picking out pace per mile is irrelevant. I'm trying to see which I'm better at as well, since I used to do a lot of cross country at Primary School, but since then its just been rowing. ATM P.B. 48:30, after running 24km the day before. I looked on the internet but cannot find anything to gauge this against.
  • mookie
    mookie Posts: 29
    I almost always ride clockwise because I just prefer it that way (after a vicious crash on Broom Hill years ago), but am pretty certain that anti- is faster; for two reasons:

    It's just a slightly shorter distance (because you're going around the inside of the road), but much more importantly the roundabouts are far easier going anti. You can take them faster and you're less likely to have to wait for traffic.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    AmateurDC wrote:
    Does anyone between 55 and 50 minute mark do runs around richmond park. I'm pretty much doing the longest and simplest distance around, on the yellow track at the moment. I just have nothing to gauge my speed against since it is so hilly picking out pace per mile is irrelevant. I'm trying to see which I'm better at as well, since I used to do a lot of cross country at Primary School, but since then its just been rowing. ATM P.B. 48:30, after running 24km the day before. I looked on the internet but cannot find anything to gauge this against.

    Yep, but not done a full lap in eight months and before that about five months. That was a leisurely 1 hr. Don't think I've done less than 52 mins though. There was some discussion on TriTalk about which way was harder. I always go clockwise because I start at Kingston Gate and you get the choice of doing two sharp hills if you go off road from Ham Gate towards Petersham playground - the one that follows Star & Garter Hill and then Broom Hill half a lap later. Others thought anti-c/w was harder.

    I'd be well pleased if I did 48:30.
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    "Exactly."
  • DominicB
    DominicB Posts: 15
    Surely anti is quicker due to the amount of braking you have to do.

    Think of the three main roundabouts.

    The one at Richmond is approached by flat/uphill from both directions so requires about the smae amount of braking either way.
    At Roehampton the roundabout is approached at the end of a mild descent clockwise so you have to lose a little speed there - but not much. Anti clockwise is pretty flat.
    However, at Kingston anti clockwise you approach from flatish; clockwise you have just done the steep descent, and so have to bleed off lots of speed. That is where you lose time on the clockwise loop.

    (The roughly equivalent height loss on the big hill on the anti clockwise has the lovely runout where you can carry through sspeed to RobinHood roundabout and beyond.)
  • Shavedlegs
    Shavedlegs Posts: 310
    You brake?
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  • DominicB
    DominicB Posts: 15
    You brake?

    So that's where I am going wrong...
    :D:D
  • Shavedlegs
    Shavedlegs Posts: 310
    Or me, I still have the road rash scars to prove it.
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  • AmateurDC
    AmateurDC Posts: 26
    cjcp wrote:
    AmateurDC wrote:
    Does anyone between 55 and 50 minute mark do runs around richmond park. I'm pretty much doing the longest and simplest distance around, on the yellow track at the moment. I just have nothing to gauge my speed against since it is so hilly picking out pace per mile is irrelevant. I'm trying to see which I'm better at as well, since I used to do a lot of cross country at Primary School, but since then its just been rowing. ATM P.B. 48:30, after running 24km the day before. I looked on the internet but cannot find anything to gauge this against.

    Yep, but not done a full lap in eight months and before that about five months. That was a leisurely 1 hr. Don't think I've done less than 52 mins though. There was some discussion on TriTalk about which way was harder. I always go clockwise because I start at Kingston Gate and you get the choice of doing two sharp hills if you go off road from Ham Gate towards Petersham playground - the one that follows Star & Garter Hill and then Broom Hill half a lap later. Others thought anti-c/w was harder.

    I'd be well pleased if I did 48:30.

    I was so much so I thought I'd do 2 laps next time, did 53 minutes and 57 minutes, oh dear it was painful. Am feeling it today lol. Its just when you get 1/4 way through the 2nd lap, your thinking, why the bloody hell did I do this hehe.
  • Ramekin
    Ramekin Posts: 30
    My goal is never to brake :D

    I'm trying to digest this article and get my head round the method of pushing the bars for a rapid turn.

    http://www.flammerouge.je/content/3_fac ... escend.htm
  • nasz
    nasz Posts: 88
    Nasz...................... 3 laps/Anti........78kg......59.37......June
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