Vino tested positive for blood doping

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  • Salsiccia
    Salsiccia Posts: 405
    According to L'equipe, the Astana team are quitting the tour following this.

    Where do we go from here? :cry:
    I was only joking when I said
    by rights you should be bludgeoned in your bed
  • mike.brockhurst
    mike.brockhurst Posts: 19
    more here:

    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/Vin ... 31657.html

    apparently Astana are out of the race... oh dear
  • Bronzie
    Bronzie Posts: 4,927
    More here..............
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/to ... /jul25news

    Oh well, at least everyone will give Rasmussen a rest................for the time being.
    It's a Lifestyle! -+-+- Coggan Training Levels
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Holy crud.
  • Bronzie
    Bronzie Posts: 4,927
    mike.brockhurst wrote:
    apparently Astana are out of the race... oh dear

    Can I have a refund on my Pro Tour Pundit entry fee please? Glad I didn't actually put a tenner on Kloden with Unibet as I was tempted to.
    It's a Lifestyle! -+-+- Coggan Training Levels
  • mike.brockhurst
    mike.brockhurst Posts: 19
    Apparently it was someone else's blood, quite old-skool... what a dumbass
  • Salsiccia
    Salsiccia Posts: 405
    I really hope I'm wrong, but this might be the end of pro-cycling as we know it. Any credibility cycling as a sport has in the eyes of non-enthusiasts is going to be washed away by this. I think David Millar was right when he said 'we might as well pack our bags and go home'. :cry:
    I was only joking when I said
    by rights you should be bludgeoned in your bed
  • shazzz
    shazzz Posts: 1,077
    I was sure this was an amusing wind-up post when I saw the title. Apparently not. :x

    I wonder what the reaction of the Kazakh TV stations will be?
  • Greggyr
    Greggyr Posts: 1,075
    ooo-err , only Ras to go & my each-way bets on Evans & Contador will be nailed-on....
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    So Team Evil are guilty of what many of us suspected. I'm saddened but not surprised.

    Let's hope Vino, Kessler, Mazzoleni and all the other dodgy riders in that team quit the sport for good.
  • mike.brockhurst
    mike.brockhurst Posts: 19
    shazzz wrote:
    I was sure this was an amusing wind-up post when I saw the title. Apparently not. :x

    I wonder what the reaction of the Kazakh TV stations will be?

    I have removed the offending ! from the title
  • Greggyr
    Greggyr Posts: 1,075
    ...also the UCI bank balance will be very healthy with a years-worth of Vino's cash inside it...
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    So this means the winners of the GTs for the past few years goes as follows:

    Giro:
    2006: Puerto rider
    2007: Oil for drugs (allegedly)

    Tour
    2006: Testosterone
    2007: A fight between the drug smuggling chicken in black and another Puerto head

    Vuelta
    2003, 2004, 2005: EPO positive
    2006: Blood doping


    Not pretty
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Langenberg
    Langenberg Posts: 453
    What amazes me is not the fact that he has doped... but that he thought he would get away with such a primitive method!

    If Astana leave the Tour, they are probably just worried that other cases come up.
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  • mike.brockhurst
    mike.brockhurst Posts: 19
    edited July 2007
    Langenberg wrote:
    What amazes me is not the fact that he has doped... but that he thought he would get away with such a primitive method!

    If Astana leave the Tour, they are probably just worried that other cases come up.

    The methods does smack of total desperation... he must have known he'd be caught, perhaps he fancied trying the vanishing twin defence?
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    I bet Rasmussen is delighted - that takes the heat off him for a few days.

    Timoid - you forget to include a certain American who dominated the Tour for a bit. He was a client of Dr Ferrari's too, no? Just like Vino.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    C'mon are we really surprised?? Do you really believe that OP closed the door - Vino openly admits he was being 'trained' by Michele Ferrari - now we know what that means - and the way that other teams have been performing, it's starting to be evident what being 'trained' by Ferrari means. What's even more bizarre is that he used someone else's blood - or does it mean that the controls are so much tighter than the refrigerated blood wagon can no longer follow the tour?
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • shazzz
    shazzz Posts: 1,077
    To put a positive spin on this - does it mean that the drug / blood tests from the TT have been completed and Rasmussen did not have any 'non-negatives'?

    If so then that is good news. Or am I clutching at straws here??? :?
  • Cathryn
    Cathryn Posts: 176
    I'm so disappointed. This has been the first tour I've followed and I LOVED yesterday and Vino's come back...just gutted about the whole thing. Before the Tour, I dismissed pro cycling as a bunch of druggies, but the London Depart got me all excited about it...and now I think I may have been right.

    Are there any clean riders we can support? I heard Contador's anti-drugs?
  • Salsiccia
    Salsiccia Posts: 405
    I can see the Tour not finishing at this rate. The ASO must be despairing and I can imagine the French media having a field day; it was L'Equipe that 'exclusively' revealed this latest news.

    BTW How come it is always L'Equipe first with this stuff?
    I was only joking when I said
    by rights you should be bludgeoned in your bed
  • Langenberg
    Langenberg Posts: 453
    I have read that Rasmussen and Contador were tested today but negative (although how they would get a result so quickly, I don't know). Also, presumably blood doping only makes sense on a race day?
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    Pas de progrŠs sans peigne.
  • mike.brockhurst
    mike.brockhurst Posts: 19
    edited July 2007
    edit: deleted
  • lateralus
    lateralus Posts: 309
    In a sense it's not a surpise, in that drugs have been a part of pro cycling for as long as there has been pro cycling. However, it does ruin the story of the courageous comeback from injury. And why do it in such a crude way? Post-Tyler, he must have known there was a good chance of being caught.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    L'equipe - owned by ASO, who incidentally run Le Tour......
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    edited July 2007
    mike.brockhurst wrote:


    same lab that leaked the landis results: Chatenay-Malabry
    Not wanting to let facts get in the way but the Landis result was 'leaked' via a combination of the UCI and the Phonak team. :roll:
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    andyp wrote:
    I bet Rasmussen is delighted - that takes the heat off him for a few days.

    Timoid - you forget to include a certain American who dominated the Tour for a bit. He was a client of Dr Ferrari's too, no? Just like Vino.

    Nope. Haven't forgotten him, but he doesn't have a recognised dope test failiure or a pending investigation. So technically he's legit.

    I should add the Tour winners of 96 (EPO), 97 (EPO/Puerto) and 98 (elevated hct/charlie) as well as Giro 98 ((elevated hct/charlie), 00 (roids), Vuelta 02 (EPO) to the list.

    Plus the finishers of the tour that have been shown to have doped.

    2nd: 96, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01, 03, 05
    3rd: 96, 97, 02, 03, 04, 05
    4th: 96, 99, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05
    5th: 00, 01*, 02*, 05

    Not sure if I GdG counts. Elevated hct and a whif of roids, but no bans if I recall correctly
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • mike.brockhurst
    mike.brockhurst Posts: 19
    andyp wrote:
    mike.brockhurst wrote:


    same lab that leaked the landis results: Chatenay-Malabry
    Not wanting to let facts get in the way but the Landis result was 'leaked' via a combination of the UCI and the Phonak team. :roll:

    You are quite right: my apologies... post deleted!
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    Oh dear God, it is more like Eastenders every day.
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  • HippyFergus
    HippyFergus Posts: 14
    Well, surprise surprise. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to sit here and think, "Ah yes, just as I suspected," Vino. Ya twat.
  • peejay78
    peejay78 Posts: 3,378
    crikey.

    i am lost for words.
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