The Smoking Ban 01/07/07

Mister Paul · May 2007

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<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by The Boss

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tourist Tony

So why do you allow piss to upset you, Bonj? You tell us it's a matter of choice!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Well, I don't know. Piss on me, then. I'll take bets on how long it will take me to have you arrested.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tourist Tony

You prove one of my claims, anyway: those who deny climate change are the same sort of knobheads who deny that smoking is harmful.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I don't deny it's possibly slightly harmful to the smoker themself, what I deny is that it's harmful to other people who aren't the ones doing the smoking.

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Bonj

I repeat the suggestion that I made to you a while ago.

Go and have a look around your local hospital. You may find the ENT department particularly interesting. You might want to look at it in your normal way -peering through squinted eyes with your fingers in your ears.

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Now that's funny -you don't seem to have a response to this suggestion.

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Tourist Tony · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by The Boss

I bet airport staff are bracing themselves for some angry stressed passengers.

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The <s>cancer wards</s>smoking areas in Gatwick are being removed as I type this. Magic!

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

The Bosscp · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mister Paul

Now that's funny -you don't seem to have a response to this suggestion.
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So what does that prove, that those people MUST have acquired those conditions through passive smoking?

papercorn2000 · May 2007

As usual, people have assumed that science deals in absolutes: ie x definitely and without any doubt causes y. That's how politicians and journalists deal in "facts".

Science doesn't do that, it deals in "correlations", "maybe's", "possibly's" and "likely's".

It is extremely likely that there is a causative relationship between cigarette smoke (active or passive) and serious lung diseases.

In Scotland, we have had a ban for well over a year and pubs are far more pleasant places for everyone. Even smokers are acting in the spirit of the law and playing the game.

As for a (before the ban) non-smoking pub? hahahahahahahahahaha!

God told me to skin you alive.
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Unknown · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

As for a (before the ban) non-smoking pub? hahahahahahahahahaha!

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There's half a dozen near me!

Maybe SE England is more progressive than Scotland! [;)]

papercorn2000 · May 2007

Really? I'm flabbermegasted! I NEVER came across one anywhere in Scotland. Or anywhere else.

You MAY have been more progressive, but now ALL of our pubs are non-smoking![:D]

(Don't let's turn this into another Scotland vs England thread!)

God told me to skin you alive.
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Unknown · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

Really? I'm flabbermegasted! I NEVER came across one anywhere in Scotland. Or anywhere else.

You MAY have been more progressive, but now ALL of our pubs are non-smoking![:D]

(Don't let's turn this into another Scotland vs England thread!)

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Ha ha, I thought that was poking the nest a bit! Sorry Papercorn.

My local has been "no smoking" since January 07 (so not that long), and there's a couple that I've known about for a couple of years that actively advertise as "no smoking", they've had specially made oak signs (the standard no-smoking ones) put up outside the premises!

Seems like an underexploited market to me, if it had been exploited then I guess the smoking ban (in pubs/restaurants anyway) may not have been necessary. I would add that I fully support the other public places ban libraries, stations etc.

Absinthe Minded · May 2007

Smokers relax:

Here's Varenicline

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See My route to work!

marinyork · May 2007

There were non-smoking pubs but not very many of them. When I lived in Sheffield there were two out of countless pubs. One was in an extremely undesirable area, the other a very pleasant country pub a fair way from civilisation. This meant that effectively for most people on the average trip out there were no non-smoking pubs to choose from.

I noticed that Sheffield Station is now a non-smoking station. Anyone know when stations started putting the signs up?

Gary Askwith · May 2007

Two pubs in my area went non-smoking a few months ago (cleadon village)...which I believe became the first non-smoking village in England....very civilised[^]
All the chuffers migrated en-mass to the nearest pub over the border in Shields...which upset the non-smokers, who emigrated over into cleadon...polarisation of smokers and non-smokers complete[:)]

Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....

Tourist Tony · May 2007

Which end of Cleadon? Golf course? Dog track? Whitburn?

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Saddle bum · May 2007

The pub I use in deepest Kent has been NS for about 8 weeks now. Total success. A lot of trade from far off. One or two of the nicotene addict initially got the ache, but for the meentime they use the garden.

Molon Labe.

papercorn2000 · May 2007

Blimmin' 'eck, I am shockeder and shockeder!
I only ever came across 'non-smoking' pubs abroad - mainly by dint of there being far fewer smokers in some countries!

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

snorri · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

I only ever came across 'non-smoking' pubs abroad
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I think the Wetherspoons(spg?) chain was no smoking before the general ban in Scotland.

papercorn2000 · June 2007

Wetherspoons is a nest of evil. They probably put weedkiller in your food. Allegedly.

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Gary Askwith · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tourist Tony

Which end of Cleadon? Golf course? Dog track? Whitburn?

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Who me? Well we don't actually live in Cleadon (too poor- but my sister does) but just over the border in shields, near the golf course
The pubs are the Cottage and the Toby (formerly the Brittania- yes just as cheesy[xx(])

Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....

Tourist Tony · June 2007

You know there is a rock-climbing guide to Cleadon.....

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

davidmam · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

Blimmin' 'eck, I am shockeder and shockeder!
I only ever came across 'non-smoking' pubs abroad
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Surely England is abroad for you?

Have to say that the smoking ban has been absolutely fantastic here.. England are soon to find out what they have been missing.

..d

Fat bloke on a bike

papercorn2000 · June 2007

Yes I suppose it is, I can't underwstand a word they say! Must be 'cos they are that bit nearer to the French!

God told me to skin you alive.
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The Smoking Ban 01/07/07

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