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Unfortunately state spending keep on going up.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Quite amusing, the only problem being is that lefties over here might read it and get ideas about what else to waste money on.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Almost like announcements are easy and doing the work is hard.
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I don't think any government ever has been good at efficiency. It's like asking lions to eat less meat.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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In which case, the best way is to keep governments as small as feasible then they have less scope to be inefficient.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Spending isn't that hard. Ask any left wing politician.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I thought this was a thread about finding government efficiencies, not a general purpose rant about "the wefties".
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Just your periodical reminder that under the cover of covid, Johnson promised and spaffed £37bn on 'test-&-trace' (not that it really did either of those) without batting an eyelid, and that was after retreating from £100bn on Operation Moonshot. That was after his wasted £50m on the aborted London Garden Bridge.
I still don't understand how the £37bn figure was arrived at in the first place (it seemed a rather odd figure - why not £40bn? - and how they actually managed to spend it.
tl;dr Tories are good at pretending they don't spend lots of money, but they always do. It's only since Johnson that most of it has gone to mates, and meanwhile let critical spending (NHS etc) wither catastrophically. I wouldn't expect a Trumpian agenda be much different: the oligarchs backing him are trying to find ways to smash the state at the same time knowing that they'll enrich themselves. People like Trump & Musk see themselves as the embodiment of America, so whatever's good for them and their type must therefore be good.
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And right on cue...
For many reasons, conditions are ripe for right wing elites to loot the place from top to bottom. Remember when Trump vowed to give Big Oil execs what they want in exchange for $1 billion in campaign funds? Now we'll likely never get to the bottom of it.
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Is it just me that is perplexed by MAGAs looking for an immigrant South African to rescue good ol' USA?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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curiously no mention of the massive gop/maga pork barrels, nor whether there was real justification for any of the listed items
there is a serious issue though: governments taking the "we must do something" approach, but after a while all that "doing something" becomes rather expensive
the trouble is, a lot of voters, lobbies, and other vested interests of all persuasions, keep demanding that government "do something", and they scream and bitch at any attempt to stop "doing something" they benefit from - winter fuel allowance for instance
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You think that's a rant? Blimey.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Curious that you think the "test" part of "test and trace" didn't do any testing. I'm not saying the testing service was provided efficiently or without snouts in the trough, but there was an industrial scale effort providing it.
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More of a background hum 😝
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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More a statement of fact 🙂
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Of course it did testing, but not £37bn's worth. The tracing part was almost non-existent, unless local authorities stepped in (when it was rather effective, IIRC).
As I say, I found both the initial Moonshot figure and the later T&T figure both astounding and odd. It was like they'd thought of a vaguely sensible figure then multiplied it by ten to allow for profligate spaffage.
Anyway, this probably belongs over in the covid thread, or the Johnson Was An Incompetent Grifter thread.
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Name a UK government that has reduced spending over the course of a parliament in the last 50 years.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Eight HoR seats left to be called, and Republicans have reached the critical 218 (Dems on 209), but it's going to be a narrow majority for getting MAGA budgets through... remembering the chaos of McCarthy's election as Speaker.
Probably a sideshow, but could be some amusement amidst what Trump looks like he's going to unleash, given his picks. The only nutjob not yet with a particular wrecking role is Marjorie Taylor-Greene.
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Good to see you're not disagreeing with my point. You've just pointed out what we need.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Sounds like you're not disagreeing with my point.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It's a government thing rather than a left thing. They all spend as much as they can get away with because there is always an inexhaustible supply of good ideas to 'do something' that is not already being done. And your not doing your job as a politician unless you are 'doing something'.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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And therein lies the problem, although generally lefties are better at it and more enthusiastic. We need someone who has the guts the reverse the trend, and it will never be a Labour leader.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Keep hoping 😆
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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At some point it may have to happen. And the longer the lefties are in charge, the more likely forced reductions become. Every cloud etc 😊
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Show me a parliament or US presidential term where it's happened.
Even Greece carries on as though 2008 was just a bad dream.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Doesn't change the fact that Greece had to cut spending when crisis hit.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Why say "not that it really did either of those [test and trace]" in one post if you're going to immediately retract that claim about testing and acknowledge that "of course it did testing"?
You know as well as the next man that no project can do both "testing" and "not testing" simultaneously.
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The Greek post-GFC fallout wasn't really resolved until July 2015, when deviant thinking by the likes of Varafoukis was finally crushed and a bailout was agreed. IIRC, there was a threat of turning off liquidity from the ECB at one point, to focus Greek minds on the task in hand (saving the Euro).
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We seem to have flown way off course. Point was that Trump's claimed interest in reducing public spending is entirely performative. I mean he's appointed one of the bigger beneficiaries of public spending to look into it and is also bragging about putting up taxes on imports so I think it's all just words him.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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With five seats still to declare, Republicans will again have a very narrow majority... currently sits at just six. I suspect it's going to make Trump's job harder, unless he just does stuff anyway by some sort of unconstitutional decree.
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