Today's discussion about the news
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It was one graph and one report. The internet is too long and a short form publishing website is too brief. What are you to do? If you are interested you can just go and look at the replies.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I really don't think it was sending a serious message. Just extracting amusement from some low level satire / parody.
Your reaction suggests it's maybe closer to the mark than you would like to admit.
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If you've got the right money and connections, you can get bypass all the queues and get a privileged position, while the poor are shut out and the middle classes pay the largest share of their income but have to put up with substandard services. Meanwhile, those in charge claim to be cracking down on those coming in illegally, but they are flooding in anyway. It's almost a perfect metaphor.
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I bet even the Tories wouldn't have put Sugababes on a small stage in the middle of the afternoon though.
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I'm not on twitter. Seems to me to have too much crappy journalism to be worth the time.
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How would you know if you're not on it?
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Not speaking for FA but I've seen enough dross on Twitter shared here to know that it is not worth my time.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Oh I dunno, this made me smile 🙂
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So if the article is meant to have somekind of point, it's a crock of shit because, among other things;
A)It's false equivalence between a music festival and a country
B) I'd wager there's little overlap between the type of Glastonbury reveler who wants open borders, and the type who will be panicking about overcrowding from people jumping the wall.
If it's meant to be humorous, then I find little humour in the overall situation, given the enormous waste of public money, the rise of harder right parties and the mischaracterization of anyone who thinks the Rwanda scheme is idiotic, as someone who just wants entirely open borders.
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So your assessment of it is totally unconnected with the point that that it's taking the p1ss out of people like you? 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The people on this forum have been most helpful in that regard. And you can still see tweets, just not the threads any more or the comments to them.
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I meant how would you know it's just crappy journalism.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Wouldn't a high quality journalist post a tweet saying "Here's my latest article on big beans? Link"
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Tell you what, how about you post something good from twitter that can't be eviscerated in a couple of minites, and then prove to me it's not available somewhere other than twitter?
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I'm not here to convince you of anything. If you're happy with your ignorance crack on.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Most journalists do tend to tweet in that format, yes, followed by a thread summarising the article. I'm not sure it's an indicator of quality. Most people on Twitter aren't journalists, though. The offending tweet certainly wasn't by a journalist. And no single feed is going to give you a representative sample of users.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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So do you think that tweet was actually good then?
If so, I think the inflation rate in Venezuela should be helpful in judging the BoEs next rate decision.
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It wasn't a quality judgement either way. I thought the thread was moderately interesting as another point of view relating to the French elections. It would have saved everyone time if I'd said skip the first tweet in the thread but then you'd have moaned about not being able to see it. Mind you, you'd still get to flex your 'I'm not on Twitter' line, so there's that.
Edit: Can we at least have a chart of Venezuelan inflation, please? Or maybe Bolivian 🤨
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Boys mature more slowly.
Human nature being what it is, I fear that until or unless mass economic and humanitarian migration slows, we are going to be stuck with xenophobic politicians and a host of other unpalatable right wing policies they bundle together with disliking others.
The alternative is we have a vast labour shortage and collapsing population once the boomers die off and nips it in the bud sooner than we think.
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Here is a chart
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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The sample size is apparently 201.
Let's not panic just yet, especially as candidates are leaving the party roughly every 48hrs.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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It's a Sun poll as well, so it's lots of Gammon Jnrs who have been sampled.
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You know that's not how polling works. It's published in the Sun; it's not a poll of Sun readers (age 16-17? Reading a newspaper website?)
It's only 98 males is the problem.
As someone else pointed out, the statistical error margin with a sample that small is about 10 percentage points.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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This is actually a Telegraph article. Calling Rick Chasey!
I'm not sure the Venn diagram of Trussonomics and the notions of increasing productivity outside of London and increased house building looks like.
Could someone post a chart?
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People like me who don't actually believe or say what the article is accusing us of?
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OK, you don't believe we should have open borders. Fair enough.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
