2024 Election thread
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If its a bubble its a nice one 🙂
I've commented before how many people spend a lot of energy defending Labour or Labour politicians while claiming not to be lefties. If it walks like a duck and quacks like duck...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
What will Labour do to fix the NHS?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I'd agree this will be a punishment action, but not in the way that you think.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So pouring our money into state controlled ventures is the plan? Because governments can run businesses better than the private sector, right? 😀
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I admire their ambition in your sector. Do you really think they will achieve much?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
My rudimentary understanding is that borrowing to pay of debt,.and cutting down on investment and spending while you are doing so strangles the economy, whereas borrowing to spend on national infrastructure is a more acceptable form of borrowing since it in principle helps to grow the part of the economy that uses it.
What would I know, but it seems to me that a decade and a half of austerity has created a vast spending backlog that is now worse than if the spending had continued. A bit like it's easier to get your car regularly serviced rather than get it towed to a garage for an engine replacement when it stops working.
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I have said it before and happy to stick my neck on the line again, I think it will be a landslide of '97 proportions. Starmer IMO is a very shrewd operator, he has done exactly the bare minimum (deliberately so) since he became leader, just watching as the Tories have imploded. He knew he could step in come election time as the safe option, there to sweep up years of Tory mess.
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Sunk pushes Postcode Lottery 'plan'
Pathetic.
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Transparent. I give it a day or two before someone correlates the towns selected and polling numbers in marginal constituencies.
And FFS they have had years to show that leveling up doesn't refer to London.
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Is that like how the “levelling up” HS2 pretty much benefitted just London?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
You have to get the levels right to ensure money flows in the correct direction.
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Trouble is it seems to have gone down the drain. 😂
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The Conservative candidate taking a somewhat unusual approach
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Conman approach more like.
Hope he gets called out on it.
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Too soon to tell 😉. It's absolutely certain that the current lot are opposed to development.
Unless it's for a mate of course. The planning system is in the worst state I've seen in over 20 years and is now a huge brake on growth. It'll take a lot more than re-designating a few bits of Green Belt to fix but it's an important change of attitude.
Other stuff is very much meh.
As regards taxes, every non-partisan authority seems to think that taxes will need to rise to meet the fiscal rules that both parties seem to agree on. The alternative of big cuts in spending doesn't seem remotely realistic and claims of clamping down on tax avoidance to raise billions even less so.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Not sure how you make that out. HS2 predates the fantasy of levelling up by about a decade.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Er. The money being saved is all in the Northern leg, not in London, thereby depriving the north, but not London, of HS2. The allegedly saved money is being distribuuted around the UK, but let's face it that will also include London.
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😆 No money is being saved. We're now effectively paying 75% of the price for a car with two wheels missing. In any case HS2 was nothing to do with levelling up - a nonsense scheme that has only distributed ~£400m across a few towns.
Network North was even more transparently bollox than Levelling up.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Borrowing to pay off debt? Interesting concept.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Pretty sure you were criticising the Tories for high taxes not long ago, but now you're saying that they haven't gone far enough in terms of raising taxes?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Don't be so gullible. Labour focuses on pretending that growth is their priority so that they can get some middle class turkeys to vote for Christmas, more like it.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo you need to pace yourself, you have 4 and a half more weeks of this. Keep it in Z2.
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Well I thought I should comment on the latest Labour policy bombshell of going for growth.
Also seems the centre lefties are already well above Zone 2 with their bile spouting.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Anyway, if anyone wants a bit of light relief from the bit of election campaign that matters, have a read of what the Fib Dums have been up to in the last week:
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It might predate the slogan but fairly sure it was a similar selling point.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Have you had a sarcasm bypass lately?
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I got that part about a femtosecond after they announced it. Possibly some contract and property lawyers in the north will benefit I suppose.
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Nope, was just wondering if you'd mistyped.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
No, just expressing the vicious cycle we are now in. As far as I can tell, we can't reduce borrowing faster than the cuts it is possible to make, so all austerity does is result in more borrowing. Might have been appropriate for a year or two after the GFC, I really don't know, but the following decade it has just promoted at best stagnation. I think some patient people have tried to explain to the Tories that the only way to balance the books or get ahead is to actually generate more income by having a bigger economy, but they have stuck to the "lets balance the books first" line. It hasn't worked. We are past half way through a generation of trying. Let's try something else.
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So literally offering bribes for votes and candidates trying to pass themselves off as a representative of a rival Party. Classy campaigning, it’s almost like they’ve given up on pretending they have a plan let alone one that is working.
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