Seemingly trivial things that intrigue you
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Again, I was considering volunteering for the vaccine and not the virus itself.
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I think you confused people as your first post on the topic mentioned getting the vaccine then sleeping on a covid ward.
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Certainly confused me as I'm not clear on how you test the effectivity of a vaccine without subjecting it to the virus.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Mmm, those are indeed the issues, but your opinion also deviates from the majority of the scientific community, whereas I defer to it.
Mind you, I don't suppose we would know what they did for Sinovac or that Russian one.
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I said the following which certainly doesn't imply I was volunteering for the challenger trial which I think should have been considered.
I subsequently said I considered being part of the actual trial that was done. Not a hypothetical trial. The relevance of that was about how safe the vaccine was and not how effective it was.
For all the comments and criticisms about government strategy during covid, the one thing that I never see getting much focus is the lack of challenger trials. They should have been paying people to be vaccinated and sleep in the covid wards.
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Yes I understand.
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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It would be a dull forum if the only opinions allowed were those that aligned with the majority scientific view.
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I think you'll find about 25% of the population are quite happy to squeeze out multiple sprogs and expect social services to pick up the bills for the next 50-60 years until said sprogs dies of smoking/drink/drug related deaths.
Maybe use them from challenge trials?
Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.
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Yes, you make the forum much more fun.
There were fairly main stream proponents of challenger trials at the time, and I latched on to it as an idea myself. I'll give you this much: The various factors wouldn't have needed to change much for them to be the best option, and it's possible that the decision not to try them can only be seen to be correct in hindsight. I don't think so, but it isn't an absurd suggestion by any means.
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Insert 🥱 yawn emoji. How many camels, eye of needle, etc.
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I think you mistook this for the irony thread.
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Another perfectly valid counter argument to mine is that the government wanted to achieve a high level of vaccination for herd immunity, and that any safety issues with the vaccines would affect this. I don't think this passes the hindsight test, because there were some issues with the Oxford vaccine and most people were able to balance the risks. Also, widespread vaccination didn't really achieve herd immunity.
I would just like all of these things analysed, so that if there is next time, everything has been considered.
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Neither transmission nor reinfection was well understood at the time. That's definitely in the hindsight category.
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My 16 year old and his mates all look like they're about to storm the embassy. It's as much about "The Aesthetic" as it is the game itself. I went along the first time to see what it was about and was quite fun. If you want a real laugh, then look up Kicking Mustang on YT. he takes it all far too seriously.
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Maybe the Pigs were Vegan?
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BBQ flavour makes everything taste the same. You lot are over thinking it.
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Yeah, but it's just the rind. That's not real pig. At least it isn't marked as Kosher and Halal.
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What's the actual product? I assume the pork rind is the actual typo?
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Whatever it is, it is still 54.3% fat!!
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If you ignore the pork rind there's nothing that a vegan wouldn't eat, then I realised it also has vegan written on it, so why not say suitable for vegans as that would include vegetarians.
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Given that their best-sellers are Pork Crackling in various flavours and sizes, I'd be surprised if it didn't contain pork rind
It's completely vegan if you close your eyes and pretend there is no pig in it.
Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.
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That’s got to worth a punt at suing them for your distress at eating it. I suspect that might be the case even if your not vegan/ vegetarian.
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I'm trying to get the Vegan Society on it. Seems like pretty blatant trades description fail, and someone who wrote to them got a curt brush-off, apparently.
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I seem to bump into the same conversation over and over again, which is people who say how much they hated history until they listened to "the rest is history" podcast and now they love it, or at least, they love it when it's served in the 'rest is' format.
I am obviously missing something as interesting stories and thinking about what happened and why has always been a) interesting to me and b) what history is - what on earth do these people think history was? When I ask, most of them seem to think it's just GCSE questions and essays. These are usually fairly smart people - I'm baffled why they thought that.
Separately it annoys me that the sort of grand narrative 50s style history is so popular again. You'd think one thing people would learn from the world of 'fake news' and deciding every newspaper is somehow slanted that they could make the leap for what was written in the past.
I guess people just like storytellers.
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Isn't it that everyone seems to have the idea that history is just memorising a load of dates. So whenever it gets revealed as a little more, people suddenly find it more interesting than they thought they did.
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Can't remember needing to remember any dates for history at school until I got to A level, and even then you need to remember about 4 per exam.
I am terrible at remembering dates for history.
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It's the downside of an examination system in which the answers have to be able to be marked by numpties who are paid peanuts: it's much easier to quickly mark knowledge of 'facts' and 'key vocabulary' than mark true understanding and the ability to draw inferences and how to research sources and assess their reliability. The usefulness and interest of the curriculum is only as good as the exam criteria on the whole, as that is how the teaching will ultimately be assessed.
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