Today's discussion about the news
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Listening to my music on shuffle this morning while reading the news and up pops OCS Profit in Peace.
Quite apt I thought.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Are they objecting to new housing?
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**bites**Plenty of fatty vets would suggest time in the military is not really a determinant on weight
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I am biting as well. Why does the BBC article refer to conscription as a thing for men?
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Chomps down,
I'm pretty sure the military has been captured by the woke brigade too.
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Imagine how bad it would be if they hadn't had to run around Dartmoor for a few years.
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Think the same can be said for the police. But that data is distorted by doughnuts.
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Of the three 'extra large' people in my office, two are ex forces.
I wonder if they fail to adjust calorie intake when their activity levels fall off a cliff after leaving.
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That and no longer having to spend their lives being told what to do I suspect. The same often happens with athletes when they retire, again a life of burning higher than normal amounts of calories and self-discipline coming to an end so must be hard to readjust.
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Maybe they should play 'Coming in the air tonight' by Phil Collins on whatever radio station the Houthis listen to.
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I shouldn't but 🤣
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There's probably a historical element too. Women have never been conscripted AFAIK, albeit conscription likely for reasons relating to strength differences etc.
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I did national service in 1998, not in the forces, in the Italian Red Cross.
I can vouch for national service to be something all 18 years old or thereabout should do. Mainly, to give them some perspective in life, beyond the “get an education, work, get married, get on the property ladder, have kids, build up your pension pot, retire, die” stereotype.
The forces can be a very good way to provide them with a different point of view, as well as learning some skills. I see a lot of 18 years old, as a lecturer, their lives seem pretty devoided of anything interesting and different…
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Was saying this to the wife, where recent events have highlighted the differences in gender are really thrown into stark relief.
Men and women are different. They all deserve equal rights and opportunities, but it is madness to suggest they are the same. They are not.
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Not biting. 😉
As far as I've seen nobody in any responsible position has suggested national service, or conscription. This is just a construct in the media to garner clicks. Seems to have worked. 🤣 What has been suggested is recruiting more volunteers.
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The army needs seven people to maintain one at the front. Women could be conscripted to non-physical jobs like cooking and washing.
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You know there are women in the army? Times have changed.
Also, Israeli women do military service for two years.
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Ha, loved the choice of jobs there, not gendered at all 😜.
That’s all well and good till the enemy attacks the logistics and supply efforts.
I mean, sure, use women if manpower is an acute problem but there’s lots of stuff to say women conscription is poor for morale, massively hurts birthrates and all sorts of problems.
I’ll die on this hill. I spend a disproportionate of my time on DEI stuff but there are a handful of boy jobs and girl jobs and conscripted soldiering IMO is one of them.
If they want to volunteer knock yourself out, no one should stand in the way of someone brave/foolish enough to volunteer.
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A hobby horse you say?
For a party that wants to fix Britain’s sclerotic economic growth this is an opportunity. An expanding body of research suggests that older people’s voting behaviour can contribute to economic stagnation, a phenomenon that Tim Vlandas of St Anthony’s College, Oxford, terms “gerontonomia”. Britain has an acute case: Boris Johnson’s government was elected with the support of 64% of pensioners. It delivered a growth-stunting Brexit and gummed up the planning system. Out of the labour market and reliant on assets, the argument runs, older voters place less weight on growth, reward policies which keep inflation down and house prices up, and are less prone to punish economic mismanagement. On spending they favour health care and pensions over education.
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Are you down to reading the Daily Mail to get through your hospital boredom? Hope you don't post this view on Twitter or you'll get flamed by your dinner party set! Best get back on safe ground - should they conscript gay men?
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It's a strange 19th century hill to die on. Will you be handing out white feathers too?
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And, from the ones I know, would slap SC into next week.
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I struggle seeing a scenario where conscription would be useful tbh.
If we got into a situation where we needed that many boots on the ground, then surely by the time conscripts were trained, supplied etc, the war would have been lost.
I don't necessarily think some kind of national service is totally without merit, so long as there are non forces options.
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Interestingly the Dutch conscript men and women although Norway and Sweden are the only countries that do so on equal terms.
https://dutchreview.com/news/conscription-introduced-for-dutch-women/
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Shouldn't they slap Rick? I think SC was making fun of Rick's position.
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What are your thoughts on neurodiverse and transgender soldiering. Can a woman soldier if they went through puberty as a man?
What about autistic soldiers? They'd avoid conflict I suppose.
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Are females allowed to fight on the front line these days? My recollection is that there was a lot of resistance to this from Military Big Cheeses because of the fear that males would act differently to females than males, perhaps to the detriment of precise execution of tactics. e.g. in combat situations, male leaders might hesitate to order a female into a dangerous situation that they'd readily order a male into.
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Re going through male puberty, I would expect the currenting thinking to be that amongst the elite (SAS etc.) only female born soldiers could be team mates of Queen Bodicea, whereas at grassroots level (canon fodder etc.) you can identify as what you want in the brief period before the enemy identifies you as a target.
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Surely the Ukrainian war demonstrates that's not true (and plenty of other wars but that one is happening now)
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