2024 UK politics - now with Labour in charge
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Tearing up the red tape to spend money should sit squarely in the Tory-Thatcher rule book which you'd think Stevo would agree with.
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Can we go back to that thread a couple of weeks ago where the consensus was they not having a government of total choppers was a huge step forward, even if all they did was dull?
Not only are they dull, but they are trying to be nice to other Europeans. I mean blimey!
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If you've seen the interview with Maitlis, it's quite clear that Trump has not even spoken to him.
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I is shocked.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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I swear that if Tories and Labour swapped the rosette and name of party, Stevo would still be a Tory, telling us what a great party Starmer was leading. It's all about the brand, not the content.
The modern Tory Party is as close to the party of Thatcher as a Mini of 1979 is to a Mini of 2024.
I'll admit that the analogy probably isn't great, as at least a 2024 Mini is functional, unlike the Tory Party of the same year.
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A better analogy would be the original Coke recipe to today's.
The original did have a bit more pep to it.
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Or the new capri?
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Well the old Capri was a 1960s Cortina with a fancy frock. Even the 2.8s had fixed rear axle and leaf springs. With drums at the back I think.
Not sure I'd want to imbue Rishi Sunak with all the qualities of multilink suspension, abs, GPS, airbags and lane departure warnings.
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Talk is cheap. Where's the action?
I see a lot of initiatives that pile cost and red tape on both the state and business. What do you think that will do to growth?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The question remains: what are they doing to promote growth? 'Not being a chopper' doesn't qualify as an action or policy in my books.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I can't disagree but they can do things to encourage (or not). You would think that given the importance they have attached to growth (quite rightly) they might try to do something to help or at least not hinder. I see a lot of extra red tape and costs which I think you'll agree does not help businesses grow.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Ah well Stevo when the previous government was flapping around like disembodied frogs legs being given an electric current, with a commensurate level of cognitive response, doing nothing whatsoever will promote growth.
Hope that helps.
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Does your business not use buildings in the UK? I know I sound like a stuck record but the planning system is behind the overspend or under delivery of everything from the 40 new hospitals to enough prison capacity to the new Thames tunnel not getting built, to Hinckley C being years behind schedule and massively over budget, not to mention all the small modular reactors that haven't happened, and the massive rail project that was abandoned *after* we built a tunnel under most of Bucks and Oxon, innumerable road improvements, not enough housing, nowhere for lorries to park at Dover. It paralyses and delays everything and wastes money everywhere.
If all they do in five years is sort out the planning system that is more than enough.
I've already posted previously about the massive increase in regulation for my industry over the last 7 years, so I'm fairly used to it.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Is it acceptable to point out that *planning* might not be the *sole* reason the UK is under performing?
I know this is controversial.
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Obviously. I think it's more significant than has been acknowledged, though. I'm aware it's a bit of a hobbyhorse; everyone has one.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Fun to drive round a wet corner though!
The Capri, not Rishi. 😂
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Again, I'm asking what they are doing given that they have said they will increase growth.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So in essence you support the approach of leaving businesses to do what they do best and not interfering too much (very much in the Conservative mould of thinking, well done). How does that square with the massive amount of new legislation that Labour are introducing?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
We do, but I still don't see anything to help businesses and some things that will hinder them, such as the enhanced workers rights. The point is wider than just planning, which on its own is not going to pay for what Labour want to do.
Labour talk a good game about growth but their actions don't back it up so far. I'll reserve judgement for when Reeves does the budget, but I would have expected a chancellor with good ideas about encouraging growth to have made a few key announcements before then.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Dunno, was just trying to take the piss to be honest.
Infrastructure needs legislating, trade regulations need legislating, and private industries that are really national infrastructure demonstrably need closely regulating. In other sectors, less so I suppose.
I don't agree that the "market" has any inherent self righting senscienve and so it can't be left alone. But on the other hand, governments do have lots of things they need to do other than over regulate the private sector.
See, in grown up politics there's room for common ground between blue and red. Let's call it "purple".
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Express……are you OK, hun? Telegraph too. What’s going on!
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It's better than the frozen income tax bands being framed as a "stealth tax on pensioners" by the Torygraph.
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Maybe not so surprising if you don't call your neighbours "foe" when you want them to help you out.
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That's not the story. The French coast guard requested assistance in French waters and the survivors were taken to the nearest medical facilities in France.
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You mention a 'Conservative mould of thinking'. That was notably absent from the actual Conservative government which was more than happy to slap more regulation on. That regulation has put practices out of business as the PI cover has become unaffordable for some. Clearly I have a particular POV, but enhanced workers rights will not make a difference to my business while I would estimate half a dozen of our good projects are abandoned each year due to clients not being willing/able to fund the cost and delay caused by the planning system. That's a couple of million worth of construction work not going ahead in one small office.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Sounds like a non-story story. Well done Express, as usual. (Sarcastic slow 👏👏👏)
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The story is not the story, it’s more who is telling it. These guys were all over the great Rwanda deterrent 3 weeks ago with project fear.
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Nobody holds the Express in more contempt than I do.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It is utter tripe, Telegraph for dummies.
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