Cyclocross 2023/24 **Contains spoilers**

webboo

orraloon said:

The Cam man steps up one more. 👍

Good race I thought. It must have tough to be 5 to 10 seconds off the lead for most of the race.

pinno

webboo said:

orraloon said:

The Cam man steps up one more. 👍

Good race I thought. It must have tough to be 5 to 10 seconds off the lead for most of the race.

He's knocking on the door but... just as the big 3 are about to hit the scene.

pinno

Hard to get a clear picture of the WvA's schedule. According to Cycling today, he was supposed to start in Boom.
VdP starts on the 22nd December.

andyp

This is useful, from cyclocross24.

pinno

I am sure they were Geese not ducks.

webboo

pinno said:

I am sure they were Geese not ducks.

My thoughts as well.

daniel_b

andyp said:

This is useful, from cyclocross24.

So as GCN plus will be dead then, I'm thinking a 1 month sub to Discovery on December 22nd would get me most of the interesting cross races over that month.

seanoconn

daniel_b said:

andyp said:

This is useful, from cyclocross24.

So as GCN plus will be dead then, I'm thinking a 1 month sub to Discovery on December 22nd would get me most of the interesting cross races over that month.

Sounds like that’s the best option for me too

andrew_s-2

pinno said:

I am sure they were Geese not ducks.

Domestic Muscovy ducks

pinno

andrew_s-2 said:

pinno said:

I am sure they were Geese not ducks.

Domestic Muscovy ducks

Nope:

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Muscovy_Duck/overview#

Eurosport confirmed that they were Geese:

https://www.eurosport.com/cyclo-cross/cyclo-cross-riders-take-evasive-action-to-avoid.-geese_vid2036869/video.shtml

No_Ta_Doctor

pinno said:

andrew_s-2 said:

pinno said:

I am sure they were Geese not ducks.

Domestic Muscovy ducks

Nope:

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Muscovy_Duck/overview#

Eurosport confirmed that they were Geese:

https://www.eurosport.com/cyclo-cross/cyclo-cross-riders-take-evasive-action-to-avoid.-geese_vid2036869/video.shtml

Given the regularity with which certain Eurosport commentators misidentify riders do you really think they should be regarded as authoritative when identifying birds?

They're definitely ducks, btw. @andrew_s-2 is correct

webboo

No_Ta_Doctor said:

pinno said:

andrew_s-2 said:

pinno said:

I am sure they were Geese not ducks.

Domestic Muscovy ducks

Nope:

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Muscovy_Duck/overview#

Eurosport confirmed that they were Geese:

https://www.eurosport.com/cyclo-cross/cyclo-cross-riders-take-evasive-action-to-avoid.-geese_vid2036869/video.shtml

Given the regularity with which certain Eurosport commentators misidentify riders do you really think they should be regarded as authoritative when identifying birds?

They're definitely ducks, btw. @andrew_s-2 is correct

Muscovy ducks appear to be black and white. The birds that I saw on the bend were just white.

r0bh

Would have been more appropriate for the ducks to be at an X2O Badkamers Trofee race really

orraloon

r0bh said:

Would have been more appropriate for the ducks to be at an X2O Badkamers Trofee race really

Wrong colour though... 😊

pinno

RUIK thinks they are Geese.
Eurosport contradicted their own commentators by stating that they were Geese,
Road CC think they are ducks.
Canadian cycling magazine think they are geese.
Cycling news think they are geese.

andrew_s-2

webboo said:

No_Ta_Doctor said:

pinno said:

andrew_s-2 said:

pinno said:

I am sure they were Geese not ducks.

Domestic Muscovy ducks

Nope:

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Muscovy_Duck/overview#

Eurosport confirmed that they were Geese:

https://www.eurosport.com/cyclo-cross/cyclo-cross-riders-take-evasive-action-to-avoid.-geese_vid2036869/video.shtml

Given the regularity with which certain Eurosport commentators misidentify riders do you really think they should be regarded as authoritative when identifying birds?

They're definitely ducks, btw. @andrew_s-2 is correct

Muscovy ducks appear to be black and white. The birds that I saw on the bend were just white.

I did say DOMESTIC Muscovy ducks.
There's nothing unusual about domesticated versions of a species being a very different colour to their wild relatives
Mallard > domesticated mallard
Muscovy duck > domesticated muscovy duck

The Eurosport commentators (Rik & Helen) actually said ducks, correctly, and again on the last lap when they returned. Whoever did the snippet obviously thought he knew better, and trimmed out the commentary that disagreed.

pinno

I love a quacking good argument.

orraloon

That's honking.

pinno

The duck lobby has poultry evidence.

flite

We need to have the rider's opinions on this.

webboo

I think andrew is ducking the issue here. I need to have a gander on the RSPB website for further evidence.

pinno

My cat ate a duck and turned into a duck filled fatty pus.

andyrac

Back to the racing, and a predictably pathetic entry for the Val di Sole World Cup........
Compare and contrast to a Val di Sole MTB World Cup........

seanoconn

andyrac said:

Back to the racing, and a predictably pathetic entry for the Val di Sole World Cup........
Compare and contrast to a Val di Sole MTB World Cup........

Can’t blame them really. Enjoy watching them slide around the snow and ice but dangerous. Puck will be giving it a go no doubt.

pinno

andyrac said:

Back to the racing, and a predictably pathetic entry for the Val di Sole World Cup........
Compare and contrast to a Val di Sole MTB World Cup........

Pity, ;cos it's a quacking event.

andyp

seanoconn said:

andyrac said:

Back to the racing, and a predictably pathetic entry for the Val di Sole World Cup........
Compare and contrast to a Val di Sole MTB World Cup........

Can’t blame them really. Enjoy watching them slide around the snow and ice but dangerous. Puck will be giving it a go no doubt.

The men's field isn't missing many of the current top riders, just the Trek Baloise riders with the exception of Nieuwenheus by the looks of things.

gethinceri

Any relation of Smewenheus?

webboo

andyp said:

seanoconn said:

andyrac said:

Back to the racing, and a predictably pathetic entry for the Val di Sole World Cup........
Compare and contrast to a Val di Sole MTB World Cup........

Can’t blame them really. Enjoy watching them slide around the snow and ice but dangerous. Puck will be giving it a go no doubt.

The men's field isn't missing many of the current top riders, just the Trek Baloise riders with the exception of Nieuwenheus by the looks of things.

In the mens field there is 14 of the top 30 ranked riders. In the womens there is only 7 of the top thirty.
They need to start paying some decent start money😏

pinno

The Exact cross is on Saturday and FvE is leading the women's elite. I wonder if this is more about travel.
Perhaps the UCI should consider that 14 events is too much.
Maybe riders feel that it's not worth the risk.

andyrac

The UCI don't choose the calendar....it's Flanders Classics - the more rounds, the more hosting fees they get; it's exactly the same how F1/WRC works......the FiA don't have anything to do with the calendar, apart from publishing it.

In MTB, there's no doubt that the World Cup is THE series to do; other series wouldn't dream of hosting events the same weekend. CX needs to be the same...8-10 rounds with events spread over the weekend. Other weekends are free for X20, Superprestige, ExactCross.......