2024 Election thread
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Well the amount of immigration from EU has fallen off a cliff because of Brexit, obviously, so where do you think the shortfall is coming from?
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House price inflation is caused by restriction of supply. The land has been identified and the industry has capacity to build to meet the demand identified every year in national planning policy.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I think I know what you're trying to say. Got any stats to back that up?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I understand supply and demand, ta.
Where does it say we have all the land and capacity to build? I thought that part of the problem mentioned a while back was lack of capacity to build everything.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I assumed you did, but you seemed to suggest that it was all demand led. Every local authority has a Local Plan identifying the quantity and location of development required to meet their housing targets (amongst many other things). Until a few months ago those housing targets were legally binding and set at a national level. So each LA *had* to identify sufficient locations in their Local Plan to match that target. You may have noticed Pross referring to these plans. Of course, having allocated a quantity of housing to an area, someone will see an opportunity to gain a bit of local notoriety by wanging on about building over green fields that they used to play in as a child; maybe discover some newts. And even though an application is recommended for approval by the planning officers, councillors will contrive to refuse the application even though it is is in accordance with their Local Plan. This will eventually be overturned at Appeal, but by that time we are a couple of years down the line and the developer is a few hundred grand worse off.
On capacity: we couldn't catch up 30-40 years of underdevelopment in a year or two, but the annual targets are within the capacity of the construction industry.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Younger population.
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Good to know that the Rwanda Bill is moving the dial...
...even further towards Labour. I guess that the hostile message on immigrants isn't cutting through, and voters have other more important concerns. Who'd a thunk it?
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Haha, though this wouldn't be any better for good government than the Tories' 80-seat majority, which I think might have been mentioned here once or twice.
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I assume that just takes the national picture and uses that to predict seats rather than looking at each Constituency? If so I've never worked out why they even bother with it as it is massively and obviously flawed. Much as that is probably more seats that the Tories deserve I'd be amazed if the majority is much more than 100 if that.
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The 200,000 were young, educated and healthy who came here to work so all paid taxes and be net contributors.
One of the major drivers of the leap to 700,000 is a major increase in the number visas going to dependants. Many of these are poorly educated rural poor.
I honestly do not know why this is Govt policy.
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It's either by design (the logic of which is mysterious) or through incompetence. The latter seems more likely.
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I have stuck my neck out a couple of times on various threads over the last few months and said I believe that it will be a Labour landslide. I am now pretty certain of this.
What I don't get is this cabal of right wing loon bags (Frost, Cash, Anderson amongst many, and their mysterious financial backers) that keep trying to takeover the Tory party. The whole Rwanda fiasco being the latest coup attempt. They don't seem to get that this is not the USA, you cannot just import Trumpian populist politics here, it does not work. The fact that Labour are going to win is not a sign that, as these clowns claim, the Tories need to be more right wing. It is a sign that people want a shift back to the centre and more socially conscious public spending and policy.
I can only think, that much like Corbyn and the hard left, that they don't actually want power, they just want to control the Tory party and have it as their own private plaything.
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The Tory Party banging on about immigration which only resonates with an electorate who thinks they've failed in this area, and despises them for it, is a tip-top strategy and they should ignore the gloomsters on here and stick with it.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Sunak has done a spectacularly bad job.
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Jesus. Not sure that's good for anyone.
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Is that age, earnings or IQ?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I know we've discussed it before, but I think there's no talent left in the team to replace him. The most vocal ones are thick as thick pigshit, and any sensible ones have walked off the scene, unwilling to lie in pretence that it's not been a disaster and try to placate the loons.
Meanwhile, Sunak's again been told off for lying about statistics.
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And Hunt hinting at pre election tax cuts, signs of desperation?
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Entirely predictable. i.e. Even I predicted it.
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Tax cuts in an election year? How unexpected. There couldn't possibly be an ulterior motive there.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Tories cutting taxes? I could understand the surprise if was any other party.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think you mean rowing back on some of the tax rises they brought in.
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Ready for Rishi?
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Would you like some ketchup to go with that chip on your shoulder about the nasty torwies? 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It's a very long river.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Ah, Stevo bingo returns, with an ad hominem to boot. Good work.
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The full clip is still cringe as the lady follows him continuing the conversation- but not as bad as the unfairly clipped one
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I expected you to comment Brian, as Pross seems to coming up to your standards of trying to show how much a former tory voter/centre right type can say he hates them. Birds of a feather and all that 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Try arguing his point that raising tax by £1000 then reducing that by £200 to just £800 more tax isn't a tax reduction. It's just lying. For someone who likes to say "Play the ball, not the man", doing the exact opposite isn't a great tactic. You've now done it twice.
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