2024 Election thread
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How can you pull the strings on a glove puppet?
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Surely RC wants to be in the sophisticated South East, as the alternative is East Anglia, aka Banjo Country.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Bristol isn't in the SE, by the way, by any definition I could find.
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The hypnotherapist dude is pretty shady and he's the deputy leader. Not a serious party at the moment.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Geography arguments are great especially when there is no right answer. One of my kids spent ages arguing with his teacher about which continent Trinidad is in. Still can't believe the teacher didn't realise there is no right answer to questions like that. Similarly, the largest island in the world or the 3rd largest country.
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When a political party can't even troll properly, you know they're toast.
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By any normal measure, Cambridge is in the East. You get Look East on the TV, it is in East Anglia. It is an hour away on the train from North London. It is not South East by any normal measure.
Until about 10 years ago it wasn’t even a rich city. It was just crusty academics, doctors and inbred locals.
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And when the Tories have lost Tim Stanley... jeez, I had to check that there wasn't a leftie journalist with the same name...
"The brand is just kinda... it's gone. It's gone. No-one likes the Conservative Party any more."
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"Until about 10 years ago it wasn’t even a rich city. It was just crusty academics, doctors and inbred locals."
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It's a label. It doesn't matter.
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Though RC does want us to sympathise with the adventure of his daily rail traversal of the the Eastern Tundra to enter the shining city on the Thames.
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BBC ask a good question of whether the Tories are misreading the room talking about tax cuts and that most would rather functioning public services even at the cost of taxes staying as they are or increasing. Tory response was ignore the question and promise more ‘exciting’ tax cuts being announced today.
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"Offering voters bribes hasn't worked so far, any ideas what else we can do?"
"Well, we could offer bigger bribes"
"I like it, such and exciting idea"
Fecking morons
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Talking of tax - and apologies if this has already been covered - but Labour has canned its plan to reintroduce the LTA on pension pots. Apparently it's too complicated given the way the Tories have complicated the tax system. (This is political genius if you ask me, as it glosses over whether the LTA is actually a good thing and glosses over Labour's former Chancellor's heroic efforts in the field of complicating the tax system.)
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Sunak propising 0% CGT if you sell to a tenant.
So now I have to rent the house for a week before the landlord seller will sell it to me? Moronic.
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Prop-i-sing: verb, proposing something you know you will never do in the knowledge it is not possible
e.g. "The Prime Minister propised zero tax when selling to tenants, in the full knowledge that this would lead to gross distortion of the rental market, with potential vendors doing back room deals with prospective buyers, to avoid stamp duty. This is one of many propisals made by the prime minister in recent weeks."
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There's definitely still a case for reducing the tax free lump sum further - this was reduced by the Conservatives from £450,000 to about £268,275.
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Argh. How are we going to pay to look after an aging population?
It's all tax breaks - public services are already broken.
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That was the point the guy on Breakfast put to today's Tory scapegoat. I think most people are generally turning to the opinion that whilst lower taxes would be nice it isn't great at the expense of declining public services. It's like promising not having to pay a mortgage but in return having to give up your house and live in the shed. I'd rather pay what I'm currently paying or a bit more and see my mum going back to being active rather than sitting at home in pain waiting for years for a knee replacement.
But tax cuts for pensioners, that must be making you consider changing your vote surely?
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The Tories are likely to propise a further reduction in National Insurance today.
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Homebuilding (or lack of) is my biggest priority tbh. I am a subscriber to the Great Theory of Housing, and on balance, Labour are probably the most pro-buildery, though it's all relative and not nearly enough.
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Think this is the moment that the Conservatives have become a Reform tribute act. Firmly in the 'promise anything because you won't have to worry about implementing it' territory.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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So you're going to vote Labour then?
It's summer but turkeys and Christmas spring to mind.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
When both parties are desperately looking for increases in taxes that don't look like increases in taxes, reining in the tax breaks available to pensions makes sense. The big problem is the raging of rich pensioners (or people with large pensions) feeling hard done to is taken very seriously.
I don't think it's those with pension pots of £1m + who are going to struggle to survive in old age.
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Has anyone asked if it is a valid use of Treasury civil servants' time to produce costings based on the governing party's biased assumptions of opposition policy proposals?
Can Labour ask the Treasury to do the same for some Conservative ambitions?
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