TDF 2023: Stage 16:- Passy to Combloux, 22.4km ITT ***Spoilers***
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DSM Lanterne rouge candidates cheating by arriving late for their startsWarning No formatter is installed for the format2
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Degenkolb bins it on the very first corner."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
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Degenkolb got his start time OK, but stcked it on the first corner
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"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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I highly doubt it.rick_chasey said:Is Wout gonna win this one?
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
DSM slack energy ..."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Renard from Cofidis has also stacked it first cornerWarning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Reynard down.
Already another crash on that first corner......."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Same corner cofidis"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Something on that corner"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Mørkøv fastest at first time check...
The vikings are coming!
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My guess is Pog or Vingegaard will have too much advantage on the climbs, but I reckon Wout is the only one that can challenge themrick_chasey said:Is Wout gonna win this one?
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Another DSM down on the first corner, have they greased it?Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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I thought it was going to be a bit more technical and twisty meaning the advantages of a TT bike would be more limited.andyp said:
For equal power output, a TT bike would be faster to the foot of the finishing climb. The question the teams have to answer is whether the time taken to switch bikes will be worth the time lost by riding a (heavier) TT bike up the climb, especially the steeper first 2 kms.Pross said:
The technical aspect is what made me surprised anyone is considering a bike change. I can't see there being many parts of the course where a TT bike will be advantageous.andyp said:
What it lacks in length, it makes up for with technical challenges. The first climb is steeper than the profile shows, followed by a technical descent, then the final climb is right on the cusp of the decision point to switch from a TT bike to a road bike or not. The severity of the last 15 mins or so of effort will also benefit those who get their pacing strategy absolutely spot on.rick_chasey said:Hadn't realised *quite* how short this is.
Not impressed.
Definite issue on the first corner.0 -
And another ....pause the stage clean the corner"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Petit using bandages to extend the length of his sock past the maximum legal length.2
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Petit stiff as a board"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Côte de Domancy is another in the new Zwift climb portal (you get 25Km free every calendar month, lead-in to portal in France is ~1.3Km iirc). A number of steep double-digit ramps connected by small sections that ease off.
https://forums.zwift.com/t/zwift-climb-portal-2023/608777
Swapping to a light road setup looks a no-brainer, but comes with the risk of time costing blunders.================
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Mørkøv 3km from the finish, in the big ring - think that's why a bike swap might be dodgyWarning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Wærenskjold proving the point.No_Ta_Doctor said:Mørkøv 3km from the finish, in the big ring - think that's why a bike swap might be dodgy
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Uh-oh - Carlton's into the startlist of potential winners
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Mørkøv just breaks the 40 minute mark.
Sean Kelly has arrived at the same conclusion: that the winning time will be around 33'"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Lot of Danish fans on the route. Mørkøv said they played Rock Around The Clock for him - a 6 days thing, from when pair 7 attacked. They might have wrecked his lanterne ambitions, as he said he kept thhe chain tight and had good legs.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Bjerg did a very unconvincing swap, though he's only tootling around as slow as possible anywayWarning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Well UAE ought to not do a bike change for Pog based on that effort.0
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If they miss their slot, does the actual time start only when they cross a timing beam anyway?No_Ta_Doctor said:DSM Lanterne rouge candidates cheating by arriving late for their starts
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Attacking the Lantern Rouge... Sensible!No_Ta_Doctor said:Degenkolb got his start time OK, but stcked it on the first corner
They're all on some newfangled carbon one-pice wheelsWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Delgado missed his slot in 1989 and lost time as a result. No more modern info.larkim said:
If they miss their slot, does the actual time start only when they cross a timing beam anyway?No_Ta_Doctor said:DSM Lanterne rouge candidates cheating by arriving late for their starts
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Certainly not in the past. If it changed it was done very quietlylarkim said:
If they miss their slot, does the actual time start only when they cross a timing beam anyway?No_Ta_Doctor said:DSM Lanterne rouge candidates cheating by arriving late for their starts
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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