TDF 2023: Stage 15: - Les Gets to Saint Gervais, 180km ***Spoilers***

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Vingers should have gone over the top
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Vingegaard has his measure
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Ok who backs themselves in the TT?
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    Looks like another juice game.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Pog has lost his edge
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    Surprised Vingegaard didn't push on a bit there, he seemed to have the measure of Pogacar
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Well, it was strange but ultimately disappointing
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    It was a good plan but pog didn't have the legs
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    blazing_saddles said:

    Well, it was strange but ultimately disappointing

    You sound just like my wife
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  • dannbodge
    dannbodge Posts: 1,152
    As much as this is interesting as they've got the measure of each other, it's also a bit dull imo
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    I need a rest day
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,818
    dannbodge said:

    As much as this is interesting as they've got the measure of each other, it's also a bit dull imo

    Don't be silly.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,341
    CK actually posed an intriguing question.
    Could this come down to a sprint on the Champs-Élysées?
    Would bring the race to another level.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited July 2023
    I was not bored all day
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Felt sorry wout poul got little attention
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    pangolin said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Well, it was strange but ultimately disappointing

    You sound just like my wife
    Very good
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,334
    At some point the final denouement of this year's tour will happen. Every stage like this that ends inconclusively is simply building to that point, and it seems weird to complain about that just because that final payoff didn't happen.

    I'd rather have stage after stage of them swinging at each other without landing a knockout blow than to have the knockout blow in week one and spend the rest of the tour frantically hoping the break does something interesting.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    I can’t help but think that Vinegar missed a golden opportunity today.
    Ultra conservative this week after being who dares wins, last week.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    edited July 2023
    blazing_saddles said:

    I can’t help but think that Vinegar missed a golden opportunity today.
    Ultra conservative this week after being who dares wins, last week.

    Not been that conservative, he rode his team into the ground yesterday to try and craft an opportunity but it didn't quite come off.

    But he's playing the long game, it's all about the attrition
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,818
    The TT really is hard to predict. Feel perhaps Pog needs the rest day more.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited July 2023
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    mrb123 said:

    The TT really is hard to predict. Feel perhaps Pog needs the rest day more.

    Third week TTs are 2-0 to Jonas... But very different race situations (Pog cruising in yellow in the first, Vingegaard doing the same in the second)

    Not sure who does well/badly after a rest day though


    Tuesday and Wednesday look like being decisive
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,334
    I really hope it's not the time trial that decides this. The racing on the road has been engrossing, and it feels like it should be decided shoulder to shoulder and not as seconds on a clock.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited July 2023
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,818
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    I really hope it's not the time trial that decides this. The racing on the road has been engrossing, and it feels like it should be decided shoulder to shoulder and not as seconds on a clock.

    Maybe they could send them off together in the TT.

  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438
    mrb123 said:

    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    I really hope it's not the time trial that decides this. The racing on the road has been engrossing, and it feels like it should be decided shoulder to shoulder and not as seconds on a clock.

    Maybe they could send them off together in the TT.

    Do it on Zwift with drafting disabled
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    That was super stuff.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    They've got a tt then a stage with almost 1000 more metres of climbing
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    rick_chasey said:

    Ok who backs themselves in the TT?

    tailwindhome said:

    Sorry to jump ahead.
    I don't think I appreciated just how close pog and vinnie are against the clock

    Stage 20

    Stage 1


    Stating the obvious I know. Unless one can break the other this is going to squeaky

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    kingstongraham said:

    They've got a tt then a stage with almost 1000 more metres of climbing

    Col de Loze/
    Courchevel on Wednesday. The TT can't really decide this, as there's always an opportunity there. It's another stage that favours Jonas on paper. I think he's spent two weeks trying to soften Pog up for these two days. It's going to be fun finding out if it's worked
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