Giro d'Italia 23 Stage 10: Scandiano - Viareggio, 196 km - Hilly then sprinty ***SPOILERS***
mididoctors
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Some of the early unclassified climbs are stiff they say.
Sprinty finish .check the wind .
Is the climb at 18km to go a problem ?
No idea . I doubt it
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
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Deleted"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Similar profile to Napoli, and that turned out nice in the end
Will depend on whether the sprinters teams have enough to chase over the first half of the stage0 -
140m climb over 9km going up this at its steepest bit https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9078618,10.3471601,3a,75y,303.32h,66.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWVxBRV0kAwdneXyjUfnXqQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656mididoctors said:
Is the climb at 18km to go a problem ?
No idea . I doubt it
Twisty little descent from the top of that.
It might slow down a chase a little bit - I think the break has a decent shout.0 -
Day off and the TT ....one of a few rare sprint possibilities 😉takethehighroad said:Similar profile to Napoli, and that turned out nice in the end
Will depend on whether the sprinters teams have enough to chase over the first half of the stage
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Not similar to 2xNapoli if you properly look at the y-axis – the climbing involved in the first half makes it more like stage 5, Atripalda – Salerno. The difference is that this stage is 25 km longer and the sprint teams have more time, about 70 kilometers after the climbs, to catch the inevitable early break.takethehighroad said:Similar profile to Napoli, and that turned out nice in the end
Will depend on whether the sprinters teams have enough to chase over the first half of the stage
I rode the Passo delle Radici last August and the descent is fast and straightforward, so doesn't really favour a break, not technical enough.
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One for the rules nerds
Does.G wear the pink jersey today? Usually he wouldn't as the leader is a DNS but there's been a rest day
On the podcast he says he'll wear it, and made it sound like it was his choice0 -
It is his choice.0
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Don’t get this ‘rule’ - the jersey isn’t some sort of trophy, it’s a marker to identify the leader of the race.
Maybe if Remco had abandoned this morning it would be ok not to switch it to Thomas, but Remco went home 2 days ago2 -
Not that this matters but I probably wouldn't stick it on.
It's Remco's till he fails to finish the next stage.0 -
gotti didn't wear it the day after pantani was thrown off the race ...out of respect .. still seems odd to me but whateversrick_chasey said:Not that this matters but I probably wouldn't stick it on.
It's Remco's till he fails to finish the next stage.
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
In the same way being virtual leader on the road doesn’t change the colour of your jersey I sort of think the GC reshuffle happens at the finish line not the start.mididoctors said:
gotti didn't wear it the day after pantani was thrown off the race ...out of respect .. still seems odd to me but whateversrick_chasey said:Not that this matters but I probably wouldn't stick it on.
It's Remco's till he fails to finish the next stage.
I also absolutely don’t care so not a hill to die on.
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It was the respect part for pantani I struggled with. Pantani worship is messed up imo . I enjoyed the racing panache but that eras culture messed people up badly ....seemed uncomfortable at the time not just in hindsight . Anyway water under a bridge nowrick_chasey said:
In the same way being virtual leader on the road doesn’t change the colour of your jersey I sort of think the GC reshuffle happens at the finish line not the start.mididoctors said:
gotti didn't wear it the day after pantani was thrown off the race ...out of respect .. still seems odd to me but whateversrick_chasey said:Not that this matters but I probably wouldn't stick it on.
It's Remco's till he fails to finish the next stage.
I also absolutely don’t care so not a hill to die on.
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm2 -
In sport, if you can't easily work out the reason for something happening, it's probably money.
Scandiano will have paid to host a stage start and in return for that expect images of the Maglia Rosa leaving their town alongside the other jumpers to be seen in the press. Simples.================================
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True I guess. OTOH maybe it will be more newsworthy long term for scandiano to be the town no pink jersey started that day ? 🤷♂️wakemalcolm said:In sport, if you can't easily work out the reason for something happening, it's probably money.
Scandiano will have paid to host a stage start and in return for that expect images of the Maglia Rosa leaving their town alongside the other jumpers to be seen in the press. Simples."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Also not a hill I'm willing to die on but my understanding was the GC changes at the end of the day.
Last time it happened was Tony Martin in the Tour 15. Froome didn't wear the MJ until the end of the next day
With it being a rest day yesterday maybe that changes things and there's been a reshuffle at the end of the rest day0 -
This is just it, it's a convoluted way for everyone to pretend that we don't all know that Thomas is leading the race and Remco's at home eating frites and googling covid conspiracy theories
(yeah, I don't really care either way, I just find it odd)0 -
In other news, it's filthy weather. That could favour the break - I'm assuming they're going to be on some twisty llittle roads quite a bit where Ineos will probably try and keep things very calmWarning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Oh and for the rules nerds - the pink jersey would be obliged to do some official press engagements on the rest day. If he didn't do them because he'd withdrawn sick, then I think the race would regard that as being the DNF/DNS that reset the jerseyWarning No formatter is installed for the format1
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Did G do a presser on the rest day ?No_Ta_Doctor said:Oh and for the rules nerds - the pink jersey would be obliged to do some official press engagements on the rest day. If he didn't do them because he'd withdrawn sick, then I think the race would regard that as being the DNF/DNS that reset the jersey
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
The jersey's a convenience for spectators to denote who's leading the race, so if someone is a confirmed DNS then I don't see why Thomas can't pull it on. Cycling is full of "unwritten rules" that are basically just vibes though, so whatever the vibes say is good enough for me - I'd hate for cycling to lose these slightly weird grey areas by legislating them all away.
Like Rick I'm not that bothered either way, but it'll fill a few column inches for those that need them.2 -
Not that I know of.mididoctors said:
Did G do a presser on the rest day ?No_Ta_Doctor said:Oh and for the rules nerds - the pink jersey would be obliged to do some official press engagements on the rest day. If he didn't do them because he'd withdrawn sick, then I think the race would regard that as being the DNF/DNS that reset the jersey
Anyway, here's G and Rowe chatting pink
Rowe has some very straightforward opinions
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Pantani was excluded because he failed a haematocrit test before the start of the penultimate stage. Gotti finished third on that stage and assumed the lead. Only then did he wear the jersey, and that was only for the final sprint stage into Milan.mididoctors said:
gotti didn't wear it the day after pantani was thrown off the race ...out of respect .. still seems odd to me but whateversrick_chasey said:Not that this matters but I probably wouldn't stick it on.
It's Remco's till he fails to finish the next stage.
I can't remember if he was second on GC after the previous stage, that Pantani won, or not. Procyclingstats doesn't have that level of detail, sadly.
Edit: Found it elsewhere, Gotti was third on GC behind Pantani and Salvodelli at the end of the previous stage.0 -
Pozzovivo and Mads Wurst Schmidt out as well.0
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At this rate @mididoctors will be in pink purely for the Giro threads0
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Blazing can't get back too soon. My threads suck .poweredbyidris said:At this rate @mididoctors will be in pink purely for the Giro threads
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Your right it was salvodelli bit confused on my part cos I think gotti took it off salvodelli?andyp said:
Pantani was excluded because he failed a haematocrit test before the start of the penultimate stage. Gotti finished third on that stage and assumed the lead. Only then did he wear the jersey, and that was only for the final sprint stage into Milan.mididoctors said:
gotti didn't wear it the day after pantani was thrown off the race ...out of respect .. still seems odd to me but whateversrick_chasey said:Not that this matters but I probably wouldn't stick it on.
It's Remco's till he fails to finish the next stage.
I can't remember if he was second on GC after the previous stage, that Pantani won, or not. Procyclingstats doesn't have that level of detail, sadly.
Edit: Found it elsewhere, Gotti was third on GC behind Pantani and Salvodelli at the end of the previous stage.
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Yes. Kind of. As far as I remember Salvodelli refused to wear the jersey, then he lost over four minutes to Gotti to lose the GC lead.mididoctors said:
Your right it was salvodelli bit confused on my part cos I think gotti took it off salvodelli?andyp said:
Pantani was excluded because he failed a haematocrit test before the start of the penultimate stage. Gotti finished third on that stage and assumed the lead. Only then did he wear the jersey, and that was only for the final sprint stage into Milan.mididoctors said:
gotti didn't wear it the day after pantani was thrown off the race ...out of respect .. still seems odd to me but whateversrick_chasey said:Not that this matters but I probably wouldn't stick it on.
It's Remco's till he fails to finish the next stage.
I can't remember if he was second on GC after the previous stage, that Pantani won, or not. Procyclingstats doesn't have that level of detail, sadly.
Edit: Found it elsewhere, Gotti was third on GC behind Pantani and Salvodelli at the end of the previous stage.0 -
Well his number is pinned on the pink jersey. He's just posted on Instagram from the bus.0
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[Troll]Ohhhhh don't know if I hold with that... disrespectful [/troll]thegreatdivide said:Well his number is pinned on the pink jersey. He's just posted on Instagram from the bus.
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm1 -
Everyone on the race masked up"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
