The Big 'Let's sell our cars and take buses/ebikes instead' thread (warning: probably very dull)
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on their electric bikes?rjsterry said:
The one place you are likely to be able to catch a bus at pretty much any time is outside a hospital. How do you think all the cleaners get there?MattFalle said:
don't worry, there will be a tram slong to take her home from the ambi station in 30 mins..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It's not nasty, we can just spot bollox when we see it. In this case it seems to be persistent bolloxrick_chasey said:Lol remarkable how nasty the cyclists get when you say the car isn’t the future.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
You might have to get it delivered the same as if you buy a new fridge. Not quite the insurmountable problem.MattFalle said:
it doesn'thave dupport, cycle forum or not, because its afuckingridiculous idea.davebradswmb said:I've just come across this thread and I'm surprised that the idea doesn't have more support on a cycling forum. Sure, it will mean some big changes in the way we live, but it's doable, we just have to accept that we will have less stuff. My car died a year ago and I decided not to fix it or replace it. My commute is 10 miles, I just committed to doing more by bike. The wheels fell off in the cold snap in December, I tried sticking to the gritted main roads for a couple of days but there are a couple of unavoidable deeply unpleasant sections that forced me into borrowing my daughter's car.
I've now invested in a pair of studded tyres.
how you gonna get your Christmas tree with new lights, tinsel and base home on your pushie?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Get it delivered by Rickshaw.rjsterry said:
You might have to get it delivered the same as if you buy a new fridge. Not quite the insurmountable problem.MattFalle said:
it doesn'thave dupport, cycle forum or not, because its afuckingridiculous idea.davebradswmb said:I've just come across this thread and I'm surprised that the idea doesn't have more support on a cycling forum. Sure, it will mean some big changes in the way we live, but it's doable, we just have to accept that we will have less stuff. My car died a year ago and I decided not to fix it or replace it. My commute is 10 miles, I just committed to doing more by bike. The wheels fell off in the cold snap in December, I tried sticking to the gritted main roads for a couple of days but there are a couple of unavoidable deeply unpleasant sections that forced me into borrowing my daughter's car.
I've now invested in a pair of studded tyres.
how you gonna get your Christmas tree with new lights, tinsel and base home on your pushie?
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but thtir are no vans.rjsterry said:
You might have to get it delivered the same as if you buy a new fridge. Not quite the insurmountable problem.MattFalle said:
it doesn'thave dupport, cycle forum or not, because its afuckingridiculous idea.davebradswmb said:I've just come across this thread and I'm surprised that the idea doesn't have more support on a cycling forum. Sure, it will mean some big changes in the way we live, but it's doable, we just have to accept that we will have less stuff. My car died a year ago and I decided not to fix it or replace it. My commute is 10 miles, I just committed to doing more by bike. The wheels fell off in the cold snap in December, I tried sticking to the gritted main roads for a couple of days but there are a couple of unavoidable deeply unpleasant sections that forced me into borrowing my daughter's car.
I've now invested in a pair of studded tyres.
how you gonna get your Christmas tree with new lights, tinsel and base home on your pushie?
Rick has tken them away.
and if I do manage to find someone to deliverme a tree snd lights and base not only will it cost me but I'm gonna have to take time off work to wait around for it to be delivered instead of just putting it in the Anaconda.
So yes, not insurmountable, but a massivefucking pain in the bottom..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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hark him over there.rick_chasey said:Lol remarkable how nasty the cyclists get when you say the car isn’t the future.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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a case of total and utter persistant bollox, some might say.Stevo_666 said:
It's not nasty, we can just spot bollox when we see it. In this case it seems to be persistent bolloxrick_chasey said:Lol remarkable how nasty the cyclists get when you say the car isn’t the future.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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You may want to think again then. Or if you need another clue, ask yourself why 'Escape to the country' is quite a popular show. Seems to appeal to city types.pangolin said:
There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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nsh - his feet won't touch the pedals. Legs too short.First.Aspect said:.
Get it delivered by Rickshaw.rjsterry said:
You might have to get it delivered the same as if you buy a new fridge. Not quite the insurmountable problem.MattFalle said:
it doesn'thave dupport, cycle forum or not, because its afuckingridiculous idea.davebradswmb said:I've just come across this thread and I'm surprised that the idea doesn't have more support on a cycling forum. Sure, it will mean some big changes in the way we live, but it's doable, we just have to accept that we will have less stuff. My car died a year ago and I decided not to fix it or replace it. My commute is 10 miles, I just committed to doing more by bike. The wheels fell off in the cold snap in December, I tried sticking to the gritted main roads for a couple of days but there are a couple of unavoidable deeply unpleasant sections that forced me into borrowing my daughter's car.
I've now invested in a pair of studded tyres.
how you gonna get your Christmas tree with new lights, tinsel and base home on your pushie?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It's the repetitive dogma that's the problem here.rick_chasey said:Lol remarkable how nasty the cyclists get when you say the car isn’t the future.
Let's have another go at rational discourse.
If we all had a houshold environmental impact budget to spend each year, which would be the higher budget?
1. Rural dweller, no kids, two low mileage a year cars, work from home/cycle commute.
2. Town dweller, one low mileage car, one child, 100,000 miles of rail travel a year.0 -
Stevo_666 said:
It's not nasty, we can just spot bollox when we see it. In this case it seems to be persistent bolloxrick_chasey said:Lol remarkable how nasty the cyclists get when you say the car isn’t the future.
Shame you started such a boring thread, Stevo.
RC, if you actually read what I've written you know I don't like cars - it's why I started the car thread to get them out of the way of more interesting stuff. But you can expect pushback if you can't find the nuance in people's arguments against your unfounded assertions about travel outside of urban areas. You might even notice that I don't accept MF's arguing for the status quo. Most of us accept that there's lots you can do in urban environments, and that we could do a lot more.0 -
i'm not arguing for the status quo.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
It's not nasty, we can just spot bollox when we see it. In this case it seems to be persistent bolloxrick_chasey said:Lol remarkable how nasty the cyclists get when you say the car isn’t the future.
Shame you started such a boring thread, Stevo.
RC, if you actually read what I've written you know I don't like cars - it's why I started the car thread to get them out of the way of more interesting stuff. But you can expect pushback if you can't find the nuance in people's arguments against your unfounded assertions about travel outside of urban areas. You might even notice that I don't accept MF's arguing for the status quo. Most of us accept that there's lots you can do in urban environments, and that we could do a lot more.
there has to be change.
i'm just pointing out that Rick is speaking total dinner party beard bollox of the wannabe pseudo intelligentsia and his idea/s is/are fuckingridiculous.
he also can't answer basic questions raised by lots of people so he essentially knows that he is peaking bollox but has dug his own petard so deep in that his sole recourse is to call people trolls and nobs..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Popular whimsy, but in reality people vote with their feet. 84% of them and risingStevo_666 said:
You may want to think again then. Or if you need another clue, ask yourself why 'Escape to the country' is quite a popular show. Seems to appeal to city types.pangolin said:
There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
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That's because new housing is built around towns maybe?pangolin said:
Popular whimsy, but in reality people vote with their feet. 84% of them and risingStevo_666 said:
You may want to think again then. Or if you need another clue, ask yourself why 'Escape to the country' is quite a popular show. Seems to appeal to city types.pangolin said:
There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.1 -
Wonder why they do that?First.Aspect said:
That's because new housing is built around towns maybe?pangolin said:
Popular whimsy, but in reality people vote with their feet. 84% of them and risingStevo_666 said:
You may want to think again then. Or if you need another clue, ask yourself why 'Escape to the country' is quite a popular show. Seems to appeal to city types.pangolin said:
There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
Hmm.
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Cos it's cheaper to build them closer to existing mains infrastructure. Unless you are arguing that Mondeo man was really demanding new housing next to motorways, seems to me that cheap wins the day.pangolin said:
Wonder why they do that?First.Aspect said:
That's because new housing is built around towns maybe?pangolin said:
Popular whimsy, but in reality people vote with their feet. 84% of them and risingStevo_666 said:
You may want to think again then. Or if you need another clue, ask yourself why 'Escape to the country' is quite a popular show. Seems to appeal to city types.pangolin said:
There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
Hmm.
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Actually, don't let me put you off your little urban rabbit hutch. The country is probably better that waypangolin said:
Popular whimsy, but in reality people vote with their feet. 84% of them and risingStevo_666 said:
You may want to think again then. Or if you need another clue, ask yourself why 'Escape to the country' is quite a popular show. Seems to appeal to city types.pangolin said:
There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
They probably also breed a bit faster in the crowded bitsFirst.Aspect said:
Cos it's cheaper to build them closer to existing mains infrastructure. Unless you are arguing that Mondeo man was really demanding new housing next to motorways, seems to me that cheap wins the day.pangolin said:
Wonder why they do that?First.Aspect said:
That's because new housing is built around towns maybe?pangolin said:
Popular whimsy, but in reality people vote with their feet. 84% of them and risingStevo_666 said:
You may want to think again then. Or if you need another clue, ask yourself why 'Escape to the country' is quite a popular show. Seems to appeal to city types.pangolin said:
There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
Hmm.
🤔"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Look, sorry, this dreary thread needs someone to tart it up with greatness.0
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Ypu are right. Let's start over.
So, we accept the car is unsustainable, right, so....0 -
electric bikes and public transport.
move people to urban areas
reduce rural habitation and and using up finite resources for a tiny %age of the population
tax car owners massive amounts to pay for public transport
problem sorted.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Of the two, I'd say the nippy hatchback is more sustainable than the SUV.focuszing723 said:
You're welcome.0 -
I mean, I think some of you guys are in denial if you think your biggest problem will be getting hold of a Christmas tree. Like worrying that hitting an iceberg will scratch the paint.MattFalle said:
but thtir are no vans.rjsterry said:
You might have to get it delivered the same as if you buy a new fridge. Not quite the insurmountable problem.MattFalle said:
it doesn'thave dupport, cycle forum or not, because its afuckingridiculous idea.davebradswmb said:I've just come across this thread and I'm surprised that the idea doesn't have more support on a cycling forum. Sure, it will mean some big changes in the way we live, but it's doable, we just have to accept that we will have less stuff. My car died a year ago and I decided not to fix it or replace it. My commute is 10 miles, I just committed to doing more by bike. The wheels fell off in the cold snap in December, I tried sticking to the gritted main roads for a couple of days but there are a couple of unavoidable deeply unpleasant sections that forced me into borrowing my daughter's car.
I've now invested in a pair of studded tyres.
how you gonna get your Christmas tree with new lights, tinsel and base home on your pushie?
Rick has tken them away.
and if I do manage to find someone to deliverme a tree snd lights and base not only will it cost me but I'm gonna have to take time off work to wait around for it to be delivered instead of just putting it in the Anaconda.
So yes, not insurmountable, but a massivefucking pain in the bottom.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Do you have a car?rjsterry said:
I mean, I think some of you guys are in denial if you think your biggest problem will be getting hold of a Christmas tree. Like worrying that hitting an iceberg will scratch the paint.MattFalle said:
but thtir are no vans.rjsterry said:
You might have to get it delivered the same as if you buy a new fridge. Not quite the insurmountable problem.MattFalle said:
it doesn'thave dupport, cycle forum or not, because its afuckingridiculous idea.davebradswmb said:I've just come across this thread and I'm surprised that the idea doesn't have more support on a cycling forum. Sure, it will mean some big changes in the way we live, but it's doable, we just have to accept that we will have less stuff. My car died a year ago and I decided not to fix it or replace it. My commute is 10 miles, I just committed to doing more by bike. The wheels fell off in the cold snap in December, I tried sticking to the gritted main roads for a couple of days but there are a couple of unavoidable deeply unpleasant sections that forced me into borrowing my daughter's car.
I've now invested in a pair of studded tyres.
how you gonna get your Christmas tree with new lights, tinsel and base home on your pushie?
Rick has tken them away.
and if I do manage to find someone to deliverme a tree snd lights and base not only will it cost me but I'm gonna have to take time off work to wait around for it to be delivered instead of just putting it in the Anaconda.
So yes, not insurmountable, but a massivefucking pain in the bottom.0 -
So we're calling north Kent, 'the country' now? 🤔Stevo_666 said:
Actually, don't let me put you off your little urban rabbit hutch. The country is probably better that waypangolin said:
Popular whimsy, but in reality people vote with their feet. 84% of them and risingStevo_666 said:
You may want to think again then. Or if you need another clue, ask yourself why 'Escape to the country' is quite a popular show. Seems to appeal to city types.pangolin said:
There are 2 great ones in my post you replied to.Stevo_666 said:
Think about why there isn't such a series on TV.pangolin said:
There's no need to escape somewhere if most of us are already there. Just makes no sense to make a show that would appeal to such a small and aging demographicStevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
Didn't have you down as a daytime TV watcher 😀.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Because we’re capable of seeing a) the bits where cycling isn’t really a viable option and b) that not everyone is able to use a bike (or even an e-bike).davebradswmb said:I've just come across this thread and I'm surprised that the idea doesn't have more support on a cycling forum. Sure, it will mean some big changes in the way we live, but it's doable, we just have to accept that we will have less stuff. My car died a year ago and I decided not to fix it or replace it. My commute is 10 miles, I just committed to doing more by bike. The wheels fell off in the cold snap in December, I tried sticking to the gritted main roads for a couple of days but there are a couple of unavoidable deeply unpleasant sections that forced me into borrowing my daughter's car.
I've now invested in a pair of studded tyres.
If you’ve just stumbled on the thread you may not have seen the post on the car thread that started this. In summary it went along the lines of completely doing away with personal vehicles as they are unsustainable and everyone making their journeys by public transport with e-bikes for the few miles at either end where needed. I’m all for improving sustainable transport so that it becomes not just a viable option but the easiest / preferred option and discouraging car use but there are just too many situations where it simply isn’t viable and is highly likely it never will be without a massive shift in how we do everything that has become the norm in a developed country.0 -
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okrjsterry said:
I mean, I think some of you guys are in denial if you think your biggest problem will be getting hold of a Christmas tree. Like worrying that hitting an iceberg will scratch the paint.MattFalle said:
but thtir are no vans.rjsterry said:
You might have to get it delivered the same as if you buy a new fridge. Not quite the insurmountable problem.MattFalle said:
it doesn'thave dupport, cycle forum or not, because its afuckingridiculous idea.davebradswmb said:I've just come across this thread and I'm surprised that the idea doesn't have more support on a cycling forum. Sure, it will mean some big changes in the way we live, but it's doable, we just have to accept that we will have less stuff. My car died a year ago and I decided not to fix it or replace it. My commute is 10 miles, I just committed to doing more by bike. The wheels fell off in the cold snap in December, I tried sticking to the gritted main roads for a couple of days but there are a couple of unavoidable deeply unpleasant sections that forced me into borrowing my daughter's car.
I've now invested in a pair of studded tyres.
how you gonna get your Christmas tree with new lights, tinsel and base home on your pushie?
Rick has tken them away.
and if I do manage to find someone to deliverme a tree snd lights and base not only will it cost me but I'm gonna have to take time off work to wait around for it to be delivered instead of just putting it in the Anaconda.
So yes, not insurmountable, but a massivefucking pain in the bottom.
a wardrobe
a week's shopping
a new bicycle
anything you friggin' want to list that won't in a pannier but will in the back of my anaconda.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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