The Big 'Let's sell our cars and take buses/ebikes instead' thread (warning: probably very dull)
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The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.0 -
Good point point which I also mentioned upthreadskyblueamateur said:Hydrogen cars. Problem solved 👍
Not sure how the most abundant element in the universe which can be obtained from sea water can be seen as unsustainable, but as its to power cars it doesn't fit in with the utopian solution. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So no one has cars. Fuckinggreatidea
How you getting you and your bike to the velodrome
Same for people going to mtb trail centres
Same for getting your broken bike to the shop
The DJ going to a gig
The band going to a gig
Trades people
Disabled
People with loads of shopping
Going to B&Q for something big
Heading to the coast - or do we class the coast as rural and depopulate that as well?
fuckingmoronic idea.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
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does it have room for an electric bike storage, all the facilities for same, safe, lit roads, someone to service all the bikes and facilities to train everyone to ride the bikes safely?Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
let alone a population that wants to use bikes and can use bikes?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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oi - J1/J2: you've just done 2 weeks of 15 hour days. Best get on your 'leccy bike for the 10 mile journey home.
if you pedal fast enough you'll have time for a cuppa before turning around and coming back.
tbh, if idiocy was trolling Rick has won it. Tbh tbh, he must be trolling - no one can be this deluded..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The irony of Rick giving up worshipping Feynman because Feynman could only see in black and white is not entirely unamusing.0
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You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
What are these 'lit roads' you speak of? I use my old MTB torch if I want to get back from the pub.MattFalle said:
does it have room for an electric bike storage, all the facilities for same, safe, lit roads, someone to service all the bikes and facilities to train everyone to ride the bikes safely?Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
let alone a population that wants to use bikes and can use bikes?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
oi - 50 year old teacher - any chance you can all this marking home?
7 classes' worth.
yeah, no worries yah gallah, pop it in my panniers. its only raining with a force 5 blowing, all will be fine. I won't stop to pick up dinner from the supermarket, I'll dine on knowledge..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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but you mean that there is no infrastructure set up to allow you to cut around on non vandalised free electric bikes?Stevo_666 said:
What are these 'lit roads' you speak of? I use my old MTB torch if I want to get back from the pub.MattFalle said:
does it have room for an electric bike storage, all the facilities for same, safe, lit roads, someone to service all the bikes and facilities to train everyone to ride the bikes safely?Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
let alone a population that wants to use bikes and can use bikes?
you're just trolling now..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I'm still stuck on the 120 mile a day commute.briantrumpet said:The irony of Rick giving up worshipping Feynman because Feynman could only see in black and white is not entirely unamusing.
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everyone loves a retirement to the inner city. Tower Hamlets has a lovely ring to it.Stevo_666 said:
You could be right. Now I'm off to find an episode of 'Escape to the City' to watch on iPlayer. Oh, hang on...First.Aspect said:
I'm afraid it sounds rural.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Unsure why more money isn’t being invested in this tbf. For bigger construction machinery, trucks and airplanes hydrogen seems to make complete sense.Stevo_666 said:
Good point point which I also mentioned upthreadskyblueamateur said:Hydrogen cars. Problem solved 👍
Not sure how the most abundant element in the universe which can be obtained from sea water can be seen as unsustainable, but as its to power cars it doesn't fit in with the utopian solution.
I believe only Toyota has a hydrogen model car? Electric definitely seems to be the accepted future but not sure why.
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Focus as much as you want on buses and ebikes in urban areas.rjsterry said:
0.25% is a town the size of Southend every year. Or Bristol every two and a half years. All of which means that the focus should be within urban areas rather than rural.Stevo_666 said:
I don't view an annual change of 0.25% as significant.pangolin said:
Slow and significant have very different definitions.Stevo_666 said:
It hasn't moved significantly. Even you said it was slow.pangolin said:
Odd to say it hadn't moved significantly in recent years then.Stevo_666 said:
I looked at at same stats. We are pretty close to the limit and you cannot extrapolate ever upwards. Rick seems to think there is still major change in the pipeline, which there is not.pangolin said:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/270369/urbanization-in-the-united-kingdom/#:~:text=The degree of urbanization in,increase over the past decade.Stevo_666 said:
First you've picked on Holland which is one of the most densely populated countries on the planet outside of small islands and city states.rick_chasey said:
Holland was extremely car centric until the 70s.MattFalle said:
because we're realists discussing it openly not living blindly in Ricktopia.rick_chasey said:Remarkable how posting how other countries do it successfully is borderline troll worthy on here, a cycling forum.
We’ve already seen some minor success with LTNs.
We are literally running out of space and resources for cars. None of the arguments presented here addresses that challenge. Roads can only be so big, and as we become more and more urbanised, there is an increasing restriction on space to store cars near where the owners are.
Nor is there enough refinable metals for every existing car to be replaced with batteries, and plainly burning fossil fuels is also not sustainable. Plus, for the next decade there is a geopolitical challenge that China refines the vast majority of the metals to a point that that can be used in batteries (around 70-90% depending on the metal) so there is real geopolitical exposure there. China can’t be bossed about like the petrostates can, bluntly.
So unless you can find good arguments against those, the future of general transport cannot fundamentally be orientated around cars as it currently is.
That’s the situation. So if you don’t agree with my train/bike focus, what alternative are you proposing?
Then you've assumed that we are becoming ever more urbanised - in percentage terms the UK is already in the low to mid 80s and that hasn't moved significantly in recent years - probably because there are enough of us who don't want to live there for little reasons like quality of life.
Public transport in many cities is well developed and will probably continue to so. Outside of the big cities, cars are still a major part of getting around and will continue to be because of all their self evident advantages to the user. The only real question is what powers them. The wisdom of relying on electric only as the future is already being being questioned (for example by the head of Toyota) so it will likely end up being a mix. Petrol will be around for a while; batteries and electric will be part of it; Hydrogen may well make a comeback and synthetic fuels are on the horizon.
The degree of urbanization in the United Kingdom amounted to 84.15 percent in 2021. This shows almost a three percentage point increase over the past decade. The upward trend, though slow, has been consistently positive.
Handy to know you view 3% as insignificant, I'll remind you when we next discuss tax rises.
You could view it as a 15% reduction in rural living if that helps.
Given that I struggle to see how it can be a key part of Ricks argument.
In percentage terms its still not significant in terms of being a justification for confiscation of private cars. And as we are already at 84% and some way higher than most similar sized European countries, the scope for further large changes is pretty limited."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
be lovely if you had to use acombo of electric bike and random public transport i reckon.First.Aspect said:
I'm still stuck on the 120 mile a day commute.briantrumpet said:The irony of Rick giving up worshipping Feynman because Feynman could only see in black and white is not entirely unamusing.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Bah, rumbledMattFalle said:
but you mean that there is no infrastructure set up to allow you to cut around on non vandalised free electric bikes?Stevo_666 said:
What are these 'lit roads' you speak of? I use my old MTB torch if I want to get back from the pub.MattFalle said:
does it have room for an electric bike storage, all the facilities for same, safe, lit roads, someone to service all the bikes and facilities to train everyone to ride the bikes safely?Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
let alone a population that wants to use bikes and can use bikes?
you're just trolling now.
It's a good excuse to drive The Panzer. Some nice country roads round here."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
I think it's limited to 2 companies but can't recall the other. There do seem to be issues around storage of hydrogen etc - would need to re-read. But nothing that couldn't be solved if there was the will.skyblueamateur said:
Unsure why more money isn’t being invested in this tbf. For bigger construction machinery, trucks and airplanes hydrogen seems to make complete sense.Stevo_666 said:
Good point point which I also mentioned upthreadskyblueamateur said:Hydrogen cars. Problem solved 👍
Not sure how the most abundant element in the universe which can be obtained from sea water can be seen as unsustainable, but as its to power cars it doesn't fit in with the utopian solution.
I believe only Toyota has a hydrogen model car? Electric definitely seems to be the accepted future but not sure why.
The other advantage is that hydrogen combustion engines are rather like the petrol version so you get a bit of noise and fun rather than a souped up milk float."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
MattFalle said:
oi - 50 year old teacher - any chance you can all this marking home?
7 classes' worth.
yeah, no worries yah gallah, pop it in my panniers. its only raining with a force 5 blowing, all will be fine. I won't stop to pick up dinner from the supermarket, I'll dine on knowledge.
Working practices will change over time, especially as more is done digitally. Transport will change too.
Because things are difficult doesn't mean we should just accept the status quo. We've grown up with easy and cheap transport, then have modelled our lives around this very recent phenomenon. Whether travel will be as cheap and easy in fifty or a hundred years will be an interesting question, and people will have to model their lives around whatever's left, not what we've got now.
For my own part, I decided first where I wanted to live, then found ways to make enough money to live there without endless travel, as I find driving and longer-distance travel mostly very dull and perceive it as a waste of time and resources. I'll admit to twinges of guilt about my escapes to France, given it involves air travel, but is all on 'public transport' or bike & feet.
I guess I drove about 2000 miles max in the last twelve months.0 -
Something I don’t think anyone has mentioned is, the gritting of roads in rural areas. On an icy morning I can’t ride my bike out of my village as there is only one road gritted through the village and that’s a mile away. There are villages that never see a gritter.2
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It may become more of a thing, to decarbonise shipping and trucking, possibly aviation. I can't see batteries being up to those applications.skyblueamateur said:
Unsure why more money isn’t being invested in this tbf. For bigger construction machinery, trucks and airplanes hydrogen seems to make complete sense.Stevo_666 said:
Good point point which I also mentioned upthreadskyblueamateur said:Hydrogen cars. Problem solved 👍
Not sure how the most abundant element in the universe which can be obtained from sea water can be seen as unsustainable, but as its to power cars it doesn't fit in with the utopian solution.
I believe only Toyota has a hydrogen model car? Electric definitely seems to be the accepted future but not sure why.
Also, its a jolly good way to store renewable energy.
Large scale production and storage might be on its way, in which case if there's demand for domestic use, who knows.1 -
Got the facts and stats to support your assumptions?rick_chasey said:
It’s more I think the problem with cars is underestimated. Even if it’s just for rural travel there aren’t enough usable resources around to sustain cars, electric or otherwise.briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
If we assume private cars are not sustainable, electric or otherwise, what solution do you propose for the countryside?First.Aspect said:
You were suggesting policies for the 80% be applied everywhere, and the rural 20% could stuff it. At least that's how it came across.rick_chasey said:
I never said it’s an either or but the problems with cars don’t go away just because you want them to.briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:It’s more if you’re working on sustainable solutions that don’t involve the car, for reasons stated above, given that 80%of people live in urban areas it makes sense to get those urbanites out of cars first, right?
Yes.
Just for a sense of proportion, 20% is roughly 12m people though. That's quite a few. This isn't an either/or. Ditch the "I don't give a fig about the few people who live outside of towns" and you might get a more constructive discussion about how priorities might be met.
I'm quite happy for car driving in towns to be made the least attractive option.
The ideas for towns and cities aren't particularly contentious in themselves.
Cars. With the right technology in the future, and eliminating their use as much as possible when you get to towns.
Your only solution seems to be to depopulate the countryside, cos, well, its the countryside, and you think it's a waste of space.
And you wonder why we bang on about it.
This isn’t a depopulation argument. It’s a - cars are literally not sustainable.
Hoping some technology comes along seems to be a high risk strategy."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Easy solution then.webboo said:Something I don’t think anyone has mentioned is, the gritting of roads in rural areas. On an icy morning I can’t ride my bike out of my village as there is only one road gritted through the village and that’s a mile away. There are villages that never see a gritter.
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90% of working practices won't change.briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:oi - 50 year old teacher - any chance you can all this marking home?
7 classes' worth.
yeah, no worries yah gallah, pop it in my panniers. its only raining with a force 5 blowing, all will be fine. I won't stop to pick up dinner from the supermarket, I'll dine on knowledge.
Working practices will change over time, especially as more is done digitally. Transport will change too.
Because things are difficult doesn't mean we should just accept the status quo. We've grown up with easy and cheap transport, then have modelled our lives around this very recent phenomenon. Whether travel will be as cheap and easy in fifty or a hundred years will be an interesting question, and people will have to model their lives around whatever's left, not what we've got now.
For my own part, I decided first where I wanted to live, then found ways to make enough money to live there without endless travel, as I find driving and longer-distance travel mostly very dull and perceive it as a waste of time and resources. I'll admit to twinges of guilt about my escapes to France, given it involves air travel, but is all on 'public transport' or bike & feet.
I guess I drove about 2000 miles max in the last twelve months.
you still need hospitality, healthcare, trades, production.
all these are long hours, blimmin' hard work. no one will do 10 hours on a builfing site then jump on a 'leccy bike. Rick would last 30 mins doing anything like that. He'd be Derek down the mine.
has great thinker Rick ever done a season in hospitlity let alone years of it? We doubt it. arrive in kitchen at 7 in the morning, leave at 2 the following morning. Where's your bus? and its raining and cold and be late and you've fucked up lunchprep so you're sacked.
I used to work in a sausage roll factory years ago. 12 hour shifts to a factory in the middle of nowhere. Not a chance in hell of getting to work without a car/lift.
white collar working practices can be changed but you can't build a fridge by Zoom. Or, in Rick's case, knit him a polo neck jumper no matter how small it will be to fit him.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Saw the JCB electric digger at a trade show. The battery was the size of a shipping container 😂First.Aspect said:
It may become more of a thing, to decarbonise shipping and trucking, possibly aviation. I can't see batteries being up to those applications.skyblueamateur said:
Unsure why more money isn’t being invested in this tbf. For bigger construction machinery, trucks and airplanes hydrogen seems to make complete sense.Stevo_666 said:
Good point point which I also mentioned upthreadskyblueamateur said:Hydrogen cars. Problem solved 👍
Not sure how the most abundant element in the universe which can be obtained from sea water can be seen as unsustainable, but as its to power cars it doesn't fit in with the utopian solution.
I believe only Toyota has a hydrogen model car? Electric definitely seems to be the accepted future but not sure why.
Also, its a jolly good way to store renewable energy.
Large scale production and storage might be on its way, in which case if there's demand for domestic use, who knows.
Really good point with regards storage of energy
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B - would you be happy comingbback from a gig at 4 in the morning on public transport carrying your trumpet which we assume is eorth a bit?
youknows, neds, pissheads, chavs, couple of crack heads in the same carriage....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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sounds quite harmless good funStevo_666 said:
Bah, rumbledMattFalle said:
but you mean that there is no infrastructure set up to allow you to cut around on non vandalised free electric bikes?Stevo_666 said:
What are these 'lit roads' you speak of? I use my old MTB torch if I want to get back from the pub.MattFalle said:
does it have room for an electric bike storage, all the facilities for same, safe, lit roads, someone to service all the bikes and facilities to train everyone to ride the bikes safely?Stevo_666 said:
Nope, the railway line that used to pass through it was closed in the 1960s. It has zero shops, 2 pubs, a village hall, a primary school and a postbox if that helps you to categorise it? I admit there is a bus stop but I've not actually seen a bus in months.First.Aspect said:
Depends if it has a railway station. That would make it a legitimate conurbation.Stevo_666 said:
The number was derived from the 2022 population of the UK of 67.5m multiplied by Ricks fraction of those who,live in the countryside 1/5). Which one is wrong?pangolin said:
It's around 10.67 million and dropping. What's 3 million here or there though.Stevo_666 said:
That's only about 13.5m people in the UK, why bother about such a small number?rick_chasey said:Why is everyone still going on about the countryside when 4 out of 5 people don’t live there?
Although we're quite happy to keep it that way.
Do you actually live in a rural area?
I live in a village in Kent. Pretty sure Ricktopians would call that rural.
let alone a population that wants to use bikes and can use bikes?
you're just trolling now.
It's a good excuse to drive The Panzer. Some nice country roads round here.
rick'll soon stop that..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Careful now. B is actually Charles Bronson, and I've seen some documentaries on how he behaves on public transport with neds and pissheads.MattFalle said:B - would you be happy comingbback from a gig at 4 in the morning on public transport carrying your trumpet which we assume is eorth a bit?
youknows, neds, pissheads, chavs, couple of crack heads in the same carriage...
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