The actual I am watching the World Cup thread. No, non World Cup watchers please. Spoilers.

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Dutch really failed to press home the psychological advantage they should have had in extra time and were a little lucky to hang on.

    Can only launch it for so long.
  • Fuckitydoodar, what a couple of matches. Penalties are orrible.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,485
    That was a cracking first couple of penalty saves.
    Nothing wrong with how they were taken.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,610
    Argies win, 3 excellent penalties and 2 great saves.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    well, well, well......

    are the stars aligning?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,610
    And all kicking off again between the players!
  • Why aren't they showing the fights?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Fuckitydoodar, what a couple of matches. Penalties are orrible.

    when its not your team they're quite good fun tbh....
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Lol this is the sh!ttest ref

    Agreed, he should have sent off at least one Dutch and a couple of Argentinians.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    If Holland had won I believe that free kick would have gone down as one of the great World Cup goals.

    To attempt that and execute it at that stage of the game was incredible. The two men either side peeled off to give him a tiny bit of space. There was still one defender in attention though so it required a perfect touch to allow the shot. Brilliant.
  • To attempt that and execute it at that stage of the game was incredible. The two men either side peeled off to give him a tiny bit of space.


    The brilliant thing, besides the execution, was the fact that any team can only do that once, as now all teams will be prepared for it. They had one go at it and pulled it off perfectly as you say.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,485
    Top tip for tomorrow - Argentina nearly followed Brazil in finding out that wasting time while winning is a fool’s errand.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited December 2022
    Thought the fist 2 Holland pens were rubbish and made the keeper look good. Right height, obvious body language where it was gonna go.

    Don’t necessarily agree anyone should have been sent off. Ref lost control of the game as soon as he started booking people on the bench in minute 15.

    He has form too.

    Argies are wind up merchants and the Dutch are easily wound up.

    Is often like that between the two.

    Not sure Holland can feel too hard done by. 3 shots on target doesn’t scream “deserved to win”.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,485

    Argentina hardly classy winners either tbf.
    ...

    Van Gaal was wrong on that point though.
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  • Messi didn't get booked for his handball, Van Dijk didn't get sent off for doing a no arms tackle while play was stopped, Paredes only got booked for one of the tackle and booting the ball at the bench not both.

    The ref was very happy to show yellows seemingly for dissent, but then let players shout in his face without giving the second.

    There's no way that game should have ended 11v11.

    And that wasn't a penalty. He bought every Argentina dive.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited December 2022
    Ah buying pens is part of the game.

    Once the ref starts giving stupid yellows then he loses control as he ruins the game if he follows through with double yellows.
  • Ah buying pens is part of the game.

    Once the ref starts giving stupid yellows then he loses control as he ruins the game if he follows through with double yellows.

    Why is it the ref's fault if a player screams in his face or makes a reckless challenge while on a yellow? They should just not do that.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    edited December 2022

    Ah buying pens is part of the game.

    Once the ref starts giving stupid yellows then he loses control as he ruins the game if he follows through with double yellows.

    Why is it the ref's fault if a player screams in his face or makes a reckless challenge while on a yellow? They should just not do that.
    Yeah, the behaviour of both teams was appalling and spoiled what was otherwise a classic encounter.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Ah buying pens is part of the game.

    Once the ref starts giving stupid yellows then he loses control as he ruins the game if he follows through with double yellows.

    Why is it the ref's fault if a player screams in his face or makes a reckless challenge while on a yellow? They should just not do that.
    Ref would book people for nothing and then not book people for bookable stuff
  • Ah buying pens is part of the game.

    Once the ref starts giving stupid yellows then he loses control as he ruins the game if he follows through with double yellows.

    Why is it the ref's fault if a player screams in his face or makes a reckless challenge while on a yellow? They should just not do that.
    Ref would book people for nothing and then not book people for bookable stuff
    "A player is cautioned if guilty of dissent by word or action."
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Ah buying pens is part of the game.

    Once the ref starts giving stupid yellows then he loses control as he ruins the game if he follows through with double yellows.

    Why is it the ref's fault if a player screams in his face or makes a reckless challenge while on a yellow? They should just not do that.
    Ref would book people for nothing and then not book people for bookable stuff
    "A player is cautioned if guilty of dissent by word or action."
    Yeah. If he actually booked for dissent there’s be 7 players on each side left.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459


    Apparently there was a fair bit coming the other way as the penalties were in progress
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited December 2022



    Apparently there was a fair bit coming the other way as the penalties were in progress
    No doubt. Hard to be a gracious winner when you lose however.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love the drama and you know I like beef in sports. Someone has to behave badly for it and in this instance, it’s Argentina.

    If you win, you don’t get to be sour because, well, you won, which is what matters.
  • Ah buying pens is part of the game.

    Once the ref starts giving stupid yellows then he loses control as he ruins the game if he follows through with double yellows.

    Why is it the ref's fault if a player screams in his face or makes a reckless challenge while on a yellow? They should just not do that.
    Ref would book people for nothing and then not book people for bookable stuff
    "A player is cautioned if guilty of dissent by word or action."
    Yeah. If he actually booked for dissent there’s be 7 players on each side left.
    But he was booking for dissent, then chickening out if they were already on a yellow.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    That’s literally what I said above
  • That’s literally what I said above

    No, you said he was booking for nothing and giving stupid yellows. I'm saying the exact opposite.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    The ref just lost control didn't he - was giving free kicks and even a booking for things that weren't even a foul.

    That and the late drama disguised the fact it was an awful match - I expected far more of the Dutch after their previous game. They just looked set up to try and nullify the Argentinians but without a real plan of how they were going to score - every pass was safe and too few options ahead of the ball. Maybe the fact they took a good team to penalties is justification of the tactics but the better team won in the end.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592

    Ah buying pens is part of the game.

    Once the ref starts giving stupid yellows then he loses control as he ruins the game if he follows through with double yellows.

    Why is it the ref's fault if a player screams in his face or makes a reckless challenge while on a yellow? They should just not do that.
    Ref would book people for nothing and then not book people for bookable stuff
    "A player is cautioned if guilty of dissent by word or action."
    Yeah. If he actually booked for dissent there’s be 7 players on each side left.
    They need to do that a few times and even footballers will cotton on eventually. Not enforcing the rules properly because it would result in too many players getting sent off is a poor argument.