The actual I am watching the World Cup thread. No, non World Cup watchers please. Spoilers.
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this, exactly.pblakeney said:What's often missed when referencing peak Barcelona tikitaka was the sheer graft they put in to get the ball back if they lost it.
Look at Barca, look at City - its the sheer graft, positional awareness, teamwork to get the ball back when lost.
City work on 5 second turnover retrieval, Barca the same. The rest of them - not so much.
We know Rick can't see this so we'll kindly ignore his post and let him off.
Rick - don't confuse tikitaka with gegenpress or sudenpress - 3 different things, the third of which was a major foundation of the Dutch offensief flankerend of the mid 60s onwards which we are sure you are aware of..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Yeah. I read the same comment. I read it as, if you have the likes of xavi, inesta, messi all on the same team, you can really rattle through a short-passing, heavy possession game and have all the incisive passing you need because they have that incredible skill.
Spain's current midfield does not have that ability, so they just pass it around a lot and don't score much.0 -
6 billion trophies don't lie..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It just seems a very specific solution to a very specific set of circumstances, and without that context it's sh!te - and we can see Pep thinks along similar lines.
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And anway, since I am over-reliant on Football Manager, I am clearly all over Gegenpress as for the last 3 iterations that has been seriously OP.0
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it has been around for 30 years so it is more than a specific solution (ie false 9)rick_chasey said:It just seems a very specific solution to a very specific set of circumstances, and without that context it's sh!te - and we can see Pep thinks along similar lines.
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6 billion trophies don't lierick_chasey said:It just seems a very specific solution to a very specific set of circumstances, and without that context it's sh!te - and we can see Pep thinks along similar lines.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Not really. In the iteration we all know as Tika-Taka it's basically since Pep's Barca team.surrey_commuter said:
it has been around for 30 years so it is more than a specific solution (ie false 9)rick_chasey said:It just seems a very specific solution to a very specific set of circumstances, and without that context it's sh!te - and we can see Pep thinks along similar lines.
The phrase was certainly not in use till then and I think it's different to the Cruyff approach; it's a derivative of, sure.0 -
Cruyf was the founder and his work was carried on by his dutch successors, by the time Pep was in charge the pipeline of kids indoctrinated in it was bearing fruit.rick_chasey said:
Not really. In the iteration we all know as Tika-Taka it's basically since Pep's Barca team.surrey_commuter said:
it has been around for 30 years so it is more than a specific solution (ie false 9)rick_chasey said:It just seems a very specific solution to a very specific set of circumstances, and without that context it's sh!te - and we can see Pep thinks along similar lines.
The phrase was certainly not in use till then and I think it's different to the Cruyff approach; it's a derivative of, sure.0 -
This is the most open WC I have seen in my lifetime. You could make the case that of the 8 qtr finalists, 6 of them (I am discounting Morocco and Croatia as I can't see either winning it) are genuine contenders.
You usually have 2 or 3 teams at most who are really likely to win it at this stage, the fact there are more this time should make for some good matches for the rest of the tournament.0 -
Anyone watching the proper footy tonight?.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It starts again on boxing day.MattFalle said:Anyone watching the proper footy tonight?
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negatron.
Stockport vs Charlton Ath on right now
Its mega stuff but looks soooooo cold. really entertaining game
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Kidderminster v Chester was in UHD on BT sport tonight.MattFalle said:negatron.
Stockport vs Charlton Ath on right now
Its mega stuff but looks soooooo cold. really entertaining game1 -
Sweeeeeet. Any good?kingstongraham said:
Kidderminster v Chester was in UHD on BT sport tonight.MattFalle said:negatron.
Stockport vs Charlton Ath on right now
Its mega stuff but looks soooooo cold. really entertaining game
S vs CA turned tasty.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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rick_chasey said:
Yeah. I read the same comment. I read it as, if you have the likes of xavi, inesta, messi all on the same team, you can really rattle through a short-passing, heavy possession game and have all the incisive passing you need because they have that incredible skill.
Spain's current midfield does not have that ability, so they just pass it around a lot and don't score much.
I mean I wasn't watching the game that closely but I think to make it work you need movement and rotations to shift the opposition and create overloads and Spain looked a little bit static and safe.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Precisely. Tikitaka done properly is not just passing for the sake of it, it is passing to create space to exploit. It takes a lot of work.DeVlaeminck said:rick_chasey said:Yeah. I read the same comment. I read it as, if you have the likes of xavi, inesta, messi all on the same team, you can really rattle through a short-passing, heavy possession game and have all the incisive passing you need because they have that incredible skill.
Spain's current midfield does not have that ability, so they just pass it around a lot and don't score much.
I mean I wasn't watching the game that closely but I think to make it work you need movement and rotations to shift the opposition and create overloads and Spain looked a little bit static and safe.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Looks like I was a bit hasty in discounting Croatia as contenders the other day....0
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all a bit tight, innit. be intriguing to see how this pans out..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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One of those games that is so tight and tactical, it has been good to watch. Croatia have definitely imposed their game plan better than Brazil. Has shown the blueprint to stop Brazil and highlighted a lack of options in their game.0
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agree completrly 👍👍MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:One of those games that is so tight and tactical, it has been good to watch. Croatia have definitely imposed their game plan better than Brazil. Has shown the blueprint to stop Brazil and highlighted a lack of options in their game.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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that Neymar fella is quite good isn't he?
Then again, lets see how he is at the Den on a January Weds night.....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Never count out Croatia... I have learnt this to my cost
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That extra time was superb0
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I don't believe you are allowed to stop in your run up, yet loads of players do.0
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Good night Brazil!!!!!!!!!!!!!0
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Oh
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Word.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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tailwindhome said:
Pound for pound I don't think there's a team consistently performs as well as Croatia
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