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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,224
    ddraver said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Well, FZ's sales pitch isn't doing much for Tesla's share price... another 10% wiped off today. It's been an impressive 12 months.




    I remember talking to some bloke back in the summer who had invested a fair bit in Tesla amd was trying to persuade me to pile in (was sitting on the same table as him at a wedding and he got onto the subject). Thought better of taking his advice - wonder how he's feeling now?

    Poorer, I guess.

    Oooh, I dunno.

    Muskbros and cryptobros are very similar (indeed often the same). I'm sure it is a sign of unappreciated genius and the stock is about to double...

    I just wonder how much lower Tesla can go before it's thought to be undervalued...
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    Pross said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Well, FZ's sales pitch isn't doing much for Tesla's share price... another 10% wiped off today. It's been an impressive 12 months.




    I remember talking to some bloke back in the summer who had invested a fair bit in Tesla amd was trying to persuade me to pile in (was sitting on the same table as him at a wedding and he got onto the subject). Thought better of taking his advice - wonder how he's feeling now?
    Hope you moved to the bar at the first opportunity to get away from the boring tvvat?
    Hmmmm, 22 pages of greatness and counting...

    Pross said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Well, FZ's sales pitch isn't doing much for Tesla's share price... another 10% wiped off today. It's been an impressive 12 months.




    I remember talking to some bloke back in the summer who had invested a fair bit in Tesla amd was trying to persuade me to pile in (was sitting on the same table as him at a wedding and he got onto the subject). Thought better of taking his advice - wonder how he's feeling now?
    Hope you moved to the bar at the first opportunity to get away from the boring tvvat?
    Hmmmm, 22 pages of greatness and counting...
    If you’d talked about salt you might not have ended up talking to yourself.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Fu(k me salty when you start quoting Norway as some sort of trend setter you are on to abit of a loser. That’s unless you are in to long boats and burning down Monastery’s.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691

    ddraver said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Well, FZ's sales pitch isn't doing much for Tesla's share price... another 10% wiped off today. It's been an impressive 12 months.




    I remember talking to some bloke back in the summer who had invested a fair bit in Tesla amd was trying to persuade me to pile in (was sitting on the same table as him at a wedding and he got onto the subject). Thought better of taking his advice - wonder how he's feeling now?

    Poorer, I guess.

    Oooh, I dunno.

    Muskbros and cryptobros are very similar (indeed often the same). I'm sure it is a sign of unappreciated genius and the stock is about to double...

    I just wonder how much lower Tesla can go before it's thought to be undervalued...
    Well, that's my point, there are many people who think it's undervalued at the moment...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,287
    edited December 2022
    Pross said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Well, FZ's sales pitch isn't doing much for Tesla's share price... another 10% wiped off today. It's been an impressive 12 months.




    I remember talking to some bloke back in the summer who had invested a fair bit in Tesla amd was trying to persuade me to pile in (was sitting on the same table as him at a wedding and he got onto the subject). Thought better of taking his advice - wonder how he's feeling now?
    Hope you moved to the bar at the first opportunity to get away from the boring tvvat?
    I managed to avoid him once the sit down bit was over. Recall saying something about not putting your eggs in one basket before I escaped.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,287
    ddraver said:

    ddraver said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Well, FZ's sales pitch isn't doing much for Tesla's share price... another 10% wiped off today. It's been an impressive 12 months.




    I remember talking to some bloke back in the summer who had invested a fair bit in Tesla amd was trying to persuade me to pile in (was sitting on the same table as him at a wedding and he got onto the subject). Thought better of taking his advice - wonder how he's feeling now?

    Poorer, I guess.

    Oooh, I dunno.

    Muskbros and cryptobros are very similar (indeed often the same). I'm sure it is a sign of unappreciated genius and the stock is about to double...

    I just wonder how much lower Tesla can go before it's thought to be undervalued...
    Well, that's my point, there are many people who think it's undervalued at the moment...
    A lot of them are probably people who hold Tesla stock already.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    Indeed ...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver

  • Look at Giga Berlin though, that's a real manufacturing plant creating real in demand products.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,096
    edited December 2022


    Shanghai.

  • That's a solar roof!


  • I mean, you just can't argue with that level of greatness.

  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812


    Look at Giga Berlin though, that's a real manufacturing plant creating real in demand products.

    Tesla’s order wait time in Europe has plummeted from circa 9 months just 6 months ago to almost immediately now.
    New orders are not keeping up with supply and they have a long inventory list now.
    So ‘in demand’ they may be, but not enough demand for the supply. They have cut production in China this month and it looks likely they will soon be laying off in America.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • As the traditional car manufacturers catch up, which they have, does Tesla not just become another GM?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,224

    As the traditional car manufacturers catch up, which they have, does Tesla not just become another GM?


    I suspect that's part of the share price readjustment... they have a tendency to look past hubris and bullshit.

  • Look at Giga Berlin though, that's a real manufacturing plant creating real in demand products.

    Tesla’s order wait time in Europe has plummeted from circa 9 months just 6 months ago to almost immediately now.
    New orders are not keeping up with supply and they have a long inventory list now.
    So ‘in demand’ they may be, but not enough demand for the supply. They have cut production in China this month and it looks likely they will soon be laying off in America.
    Sure, but globally the economy is on a down turn.

    In my superior opinion Tesla should kick off a smaller more affordable EV smartish, Model 2 or whatever.

  • Look at that though, admire it, praise it.




  • Look at that though, admire it, praise it.
    It is massively impressive to be fair

  • Look at Giga Berlin though, that's a real manufacturing plant creating real in demand products.

    Tesla’s order wait time in Europe has plummeted from circa 9 months just 6 months ago to almost immediately now.
    New orders are not keeping up with supply and they have a long inventory list now.
    So ‘in demand’ they may be, but not enough demand for the supply. They have cut production in China this month and it looks likely they will soon be laying off in America.
    Sure, but globally the economy is on a down turn.

    In my superior opinion Tesla should kick off a smaller more affordable EV smartish, Model 2 or whatever.
    What are Tesla actually offering now that is any different to what’s on the market from VW, Hyundai or Kia? They’re just another car company and if anything are now tainted by Musk’s recent behaviour.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,460


    Look at that though, admire it, praise it.
    It is massively impressive to be fair
    Isn’t it just a rocket launch on rewind?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,460


    Look at Giga Berlin though, that's a real manufacturing plant creating real in demand products.

    Tesla’s order wait time in Europe has plummeted from circa 9 months just 6 months ago to almost immediately now.
    New orders are not keeping up with supply and they have a long inventory list now.
    So ‘in demand’ they may be, but not enough demand for the supply. They have cut production in China this month and it looks likely they will soon be laying off in America.
    Sure, but globally the economy is on a down turn.

    In my superior opinion Tesla should kick off a smaller more affordable EV smartish, Model 2 or whatever.
    What are Tesla actually offering now that is any different to what’s on the market from VW, Hyundai or Kia? They’re just another car company and if anything are now tainted by Musk’s recent behaviour.
    Batteries are probably still more advanced. Other than that the ability to use their charging network was the big selling point when I was considering electric but the thing about their connections being opened up to others presumably kills that.

  • Look at Giga Berlin though, that's a real manufacturing plant creating real in demand products.

    Tesla’s order wait time in Europe has plummeted from circa 9 months just 6 months ago to almost immediately now.
    New orders are not keeping up with supply and they have a long inventory list now.
    So ‘in demand’ they may be, but not enough demand for the supply. They have cut production in China this month and it looks likely they will soon be laying off in America.
    Sure, but globally the economy is on a down turn.

    In my superior opinion Tesla should kick off a smaller more affordable EV smartish, Model 2 or whatever.
    What are Tesla actually offering now that is any different to what’s on the market from VW, Hyundai or Kia? They’re just another car company and if anything are now tainted by Musk’s recent behaviour.
    I would guess cutting edge battery technology and with that range, charging network, progress to self driving/safety. It's true though the competition is getting stronger, something Musk encouraged from the get go.

    All their patents are Open Source. The MO is to evolve quicker so it isn't an issue.
  • Pross said:


    Look at that though, admire it, praise it.
    It is massively impressive to be fair
    Isn’t it just a rocket launch on rewind?
    Even if it is, to launch rockets is still pretty impressive 😂
  • Pross said:


    Look at that though, admire it, praise it.
    It is massively impressive to be fair
    Isn’t it just a rocket launch on rewind?
    If only greatness could be so easy/simple.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,460

    Pross said:


    Look at that though, admire it, praise it.
    It is massively impressive to be fair
    Isn’t it just a rocket launch on rewind?
    Even if it is, to launch rockets is still pretty impressive 😂
    It’s been happening for nearly 70 years though!

  • Look at Giga Berlin though, that's a real manufacturing plant creating real in demand products.

    Tesla’s order wait time in Europe has plummeted from circa 9 months just 6 months ago to almost immediately now.
    New orders are not keeping up with supply and they have a long inventory list now.
    So ‘in demand’ they may be, but not enough demand for the supply. They have cut production in China this month and it looks likely they will soon be laying off in America.
    Sure, but globally the economy is on a down turn.

    In my superior opinion Tesla should kick off a smaller more affordable EV smartish, Model 2 or whatever.
    What are Tesla actually offering now that is any different to what’s on the market from VW, Hyundai or Kia? They’re just another car company and if anything are now tainted by Musk’s recent behaviour.
    I would guess cutting edge battery technology and with that range, charging network, progress to self driving/safety. It's true though the competition is getting stronger, something Musk encouraged from the get go.

    All their patents are Open Source. The MO is to evolve quicker so it isn't an issue.
    Range is such now that it’s not really an issue. I’m sure that progression with battery technology will continue but I don’t see Tesla as anything other then a traditional car manufacturer now.
  • Pross said:

    Pross said:


    Look at that though, admire it, praise it.
    It is massively impressive to be fair
    Isn’t it just a rocket launch on rewind?
    Even if it is, to launch rockets is still pretty impressive 😂
    It’s been happening for nearly 70 years though!
    Reusable/cost.

    You knew that Pross, just praise the greatness.

    There should be a damn sight more praise in this glorious thread.