TDF 2022:- Stage 11: Albertville to Col du Granon, 157.1Km ***Spoilers***

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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    edited July 2022
    Looks like WvA had a puncture on the descent. Eventually the tubeless slime sealed it but a roadside fan lent him a pump to get it back up to pressure.

    WvA gave him his green podium jersey as a thank you. Not bad!

    Edit - descent post finish
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,341
    edited July 2022
    The full results of today will not be known until after tomorrow.
    Some will be overcooked, some will have reserves. We do not know who has what.

    Absolutely brilliant stage though!
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,334

    Looks like WvA had a puncture on the descent. Eventually the tubeless slime sealed it but a roadside fan lent him a pump to get it back up to pressure.

    WvA gave him his green podium jersey as a thank you. Not bad!

    Edit - descent post finish



    Fantastic stuff. I know the warm and cuddly idea that cycling is closer to its fans than any other sport is partly self-mythologising, but moments like this kind of bear it out.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Wouldn't surprise me if it's a UCI fine for taking assistance from a fan !
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,341

    Wouldn't surprise me if it's a UCI fine for taking assistance from a fan !

    Did the fan operate the pump? 😉
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    That was best mountain stage I’ve watched, after so many that have failed to live up to the expectations.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    On the subject of Covid - JV seem to be more cautious. They are using ffp3 masks, and right up to the race start. most others using team branded medical masks. Latter offer much less protection to the wearer.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601

    Wouldn't surprise me if it's a UCI fine for taking assistance from a fan !

    It was on the way down after the finish.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    Not sure why the ineos guys sat on Pogacar for so long after others had risen off. Must've cost Thomas a bucket load of time.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438
    edited July 2022
    gsk82 said:

    Not sure why the ineos guys sat on Pogacar for so long after others had risen off. Must've cost Thomas a bucket load of time.

    I'm watching it now and Thomas sat on Pog's wheel for about a minute max. It made little to no difference IMHO, Thomas was at his limit
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    Don't think there was much choice in the matter.

    Given where they are in the pecking order right now I think Gee rode really well today. Yates gets a 9/10.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    Watching the ITV highlights back, such a good package - I like the Breakaway but you can't beat having people on the ground doing interviews.

    I also don't see a GCN highlights package that actually includes the Breakaway.

    Watching it back it's mental how many times Vingegaard attacked with 50-60k to go!

    G's response to that:
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    RIP to TommyP's top 10 ride a la Zubeldia today.

    Although the rare shots of him just riding along with a smile soaking it all in like a tourist who'd been allowed to join in for a day suggest he's going to be back with a vengeance soon.
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    He's only 11th!
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    I don't think he's a GC kinda guy tbh...

    More of a WvA/JA/MvdP I think (and hope...)
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,819
    gsk82 said:

    He's only 11th!

    Still beat Roglic today.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    ddraver said:

    RIP to TommyP's top 10 ride a la Zubeldia today.

    Although the rare shots of him just riding along with a smile soaking it all in like a tourist who'd been allowed to join in for a day suggest he's going to be back with a vengeance soon.


    Lutsenko and Mas are way ahead of him for that award
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    "He used to work in fish factory" is the new "He used to be a ski jumper"
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    RichN95. said:

    ddraver said:

    RIP to TommyP's top 10 ride a la Zubeldia today.

    Although the rare shots of him just riding along with a smile soaking it all in like a tourist who'd been allowed to join in for a day suggest he's going to be back with a vengeance soon.


    Lutsenko and Mas are way ahead of him for that award
    True, but they have the common decency to look like they're trying...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    ddraver said:



    True, but they have the common decency to look like they're trying...


    How do you know? No-one has seen them.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    I guess a serene face stands out in a sea of pain faces...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Who went first Gaudu or Yates ?
    r0bh said:

    gsk82 said:

    Not sure why the ineos guys sat on Pogacar for so long after others had risen off. Must've cost Thomas a bucket load of time.

    I'm watching it now and Thomas sat on Pog's wheel for about a minute max. It made little to no difference IMHO, Thomas was at his limit

    Just watched it back - Thomas waits until Vingegaard has 30 seconds - maybe could have stayed with Bardet if he'd gone with them as he pretty much holds Bardet after that.

    Yates does seem to stay on Pogacar's wheel far longer than he had to though given the time he pulls out in the final 1.5km - he only leaves Pogacar when Gaudu pushes on. - that does look unnecessarily conservative.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    Has anyone from Jumbo-Visma explained why they burnt out Van Aert to pick up a cooked Roglic plus UAE's top mountain domestique and a bunch of other GC hopefuls?
    I'm still mystified.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726

    Has anyone from Jumbo-Visma explained why they burnt out Van Aert to pick up a cooked Roglic plus UAE's top mountain domestique and a bunch of other GC hopefuls?
    I'm still mystified.

    It's Jumbo.
    They don't need a reason, as they have a long and proud history of pulling off dumb things.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165

    Has anyone from Jumbo-Visma explained why they burnt out Van Aert to pick up a cooked Roglic plus UAE's top mountain domestique and a bunch of other GC hopefuls?
    I'm still mystified.

    Obviously, they brought back Majka back so he would burn himself out a bit more in a vain effort to help. He will then be no use on the Alpe. Roglic's 50 metre effort was just cover for this.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    David Millar suggesting that the collapse was just a result of too much work on the Galibier by Pog.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Has anyone from Jumbo-Visma explained why they burnt out Van Aert to pick up a cooked Roglic plus UAE's top mountain domestique and a bunch of other GC hopefuls?
    I'm still mystified.

    It's Jumbo.
    They don't need a reason, as they have a long and proud history of pulling off dumb things.
    The played their tactics exceptionally well yesterday. Was a big hairy plan and they did it really well.

    This was the only wrinkle and you can see the logic - they presumably wanted to do the same as they did on the Telegraph again.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104

    David Millar suggesting that the collapse was just a result of too much work on the Galibier by Pog.

    I think that's most likely -
    Robbie McEwan mentioned a few times he was doing too much so even at the time it raised eyebrows .

    With hindsight you have to wonder if he even had to mark Roglic rather than waiting for 2-3 domestiques to get back and set a pace - you can forgive him that though with WvA up the road as who knows what gap Roglic would have pulled out.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165

    David Millar suggesting that the collapse was just a result of too much work on the Galibier by Pog.

    Did he come up with a way he could have prepared himself better?