TDF 2022:- Stage 11: Albertville to Col du Granon, 157.1Km ***Spoilers***

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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    edited July 2022
    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Christ alive.

    Hunger knock, Corona or lack of legs?!

    Someone was saying on comms that he hadn't yet been properly tested at higher altitudes, could be as simple as that.
    He's also being wastefully using energy like a Russian oligarch.
    Not just today, but how many stages has he put in an all out sprint at the end for little no profit?
    I caught the end of yesterday's stage and thought he was sprinting for the win and the bonifications.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Jonas overwhelmed... Can jumbo f**k this up still?
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    They had the team and did the right moves mostly . Attacking on the flat like that when he was isolated was really good ...
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,142
    Pross said:

    The gap that Gaudu and Yates created shows just how much Pog was suffering. Did Thomas lose a place of GC despite gaining over a minute on Pog?

    No, because of Kamna dropping out of second. He stays 4th.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Christ alive.

    Hunger knock, Corona or lack of legs?!

    Someone was saying on comms that he hadn't yet been properly tested at higher altitudes, could be as simple as that.
    He's also being wastefully using energy like a Russian oligarch.
    Not just today, but how many stages has he put in an all out sprint at the end for little no profit?
    Yeah, it's been a bit like that Giro where Yates seemed to do that in the early stages before blowing up. Still think it may be Covid though.

    Have to say I'm not a fan of the teammates interrupting interviews that seems to have started being a 'thing' this year.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    kingstongraham said:

    Pross said:

    The gap that Gaudu and Yates created shows just how much Pog was suffering. Did Thomas lose a place of GC despite gaining over a minute on Pog?

    No, because of Kamna dropping out of second. He stays 4th.

    Ah yes, I forgot about Kamna's day out.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    I didn't see that attack on the telegraph...top of galibier was my guess .. instead they attacked everywhere lol
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • josame
    josame Posts: 1,162
    bianchi_dave said:

    1st chance to watch the whole stage live, I got lucky!

    I reckon that's the best live stage I've seen since Froomes Giro stage 18, probably even better as a whole spectacle, so much going on

    Oh behave, I mean nothing compares to Froome excitement :D
    'Do not compare your bike to others, for always there will be greater and lesser bikes'
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Pross said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Christ alive.

    Hunger knock, Corona or lack of legs?!

    Someone was saying on comms that he hadn't yet been properly tested at higher altitudes, could be as simple as that.
    He's also being wastefully using energy like a Russian oligarch.
    Not just today, but how many stages has he put in an all out sprint at the end for little no profit?
    Yeah, it's been a bit like that Giro where Yates seemed to do that in the early stages before blowing up. Still think it may be Covid though.

    Have to say I'm not a fan of the teammates interrupting interviews that seems to have started being a 'thing' this year.
    Orla has just picked up on exactly this, during post stage chat.
    Adam Blythe dismisses it............so it's probably correct.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    G L Y C O G E N
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Christ alive.

    Hunger knock, Corona or lack of legs?!

    Someone was saying on comms that he hadn't yet been properly tested at higher altitudes, could be as simple as that.
    He's also being wastefully using energy like a Russian oligarch.
    Not just today, but how many stages has he put in an all out sprint at the end for little no profit?
    Yeah, it's been a bit like that Giro where Yates seemed to do that in the early stages before blowing up. Still think it may be Covid though.

    Have to say I'm not a fan of the teammates interrupting interviews that seems to have started being a 'thing' this year.
    Orla has just picked up on exactly this, during post stage chat.
    Adam Blythe dismisses it............so it's probably correct.
    LOL
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    mididoctors said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Christ alive.

    Hunger knock, Corona or lack of legs?!

    Someone was saying on comms that he hadn't yet been properly tested at higher altitudes, could be as simple as that.
    He's also being wastefully using energy like a Russian oligarch.
    Not just today, but how many stages has he put in an all out sprint at the end for little no profit?
    Yeah, it's been a bit like that Giro where Yates seemed to do that in the early stages before blowing up. Still think it may be Covid though.

    Have to say I'm not a fan of the teammates interrupting interviews that seems to have started being a 'thing' this year.
    Orla has just picked up on exactly this, during post stage chat.
    Adam Blythe dismisses it............so it's probably correct.
    LOL
    They did also raise the altitude - he lost time to on Col de la Loze apparently? I don't really remember that. But the main other time he's been tested at proper altitude.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,651
    Much of Pog's dominance was psychological - most here bought it as well. Jonas didn't. But holding that psychological edge requires a lot of effort
    Ventoux last year told him he was a genuine player. Today he just showed everyone else.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,142
    So I guess it might take him an extra year to get his 10 wins.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    I don't see either of the Ineos riders going on the offensive, I see them both trying to avoid losses and hope the others have a day like Pog did today.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,651
    Pross said:

    I don't see either of the Ineos riders going on the offensive, I see them both trying to avoid losses and hope the others have a day like Pog did today.

    Yeah, I thinks that's where they are, but it's what they've got. Will be hard to isolate Vingegaard with the team he's got around him
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  • iantr
    iantr Posts: 31
    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Christ alive.

    Hunger knock, Corona or lack of legs?!

    Someone was saying on comms that he hadn't yet been properly tested at higher altitudes, could be as simple as that.
    He's also being wastefully using energy like a Russian oligarch.
    Not just today, but how many stages has he put in an all out sprint at the end for little no profit?
    Yeah, it's been a bit like that Giro where Yates seemed to do that in the early stages before blowing up. Still think it may be Covid though.

    Have to say I'm not a fan of the teammates interrupting interviews that seems to have started being a 'thing' this year.
    Orla has just picked up on exactly this, during post stage chat.
    Adam Blythe dismisses it............so it's probably correct.
    An outstanding contribution from Orla today as well.
  • jam1e
    jam1e Posts: 1,068
    Presumably G won't as he's unlikely to be able to beat Vinegaard and JV even if Pogacar does crack again, especially when you'd imagine he'd be as well waiting for the TT to consolidate 2nd/3rd place?
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Was WVA move pointless or not?
  • Jtomesgreen
    Jtomesgreen Posts: 190
    shirley_basso said:

    Was WVA move pointless or not?

    Yes, will likely be forgotten about due to the result. But it prevented Pog having to work in the valley and gave him Majka to set pace on the climb which to me actually meant that we didn't see Pog look weak until late
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Thanks for the reply. So a real waste of energy unless he was going forward to support Vingegaard.

    Tomorrow looks brutal and Pog has told TV he plans to attack!
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Christ alive.

    Hunger knock, Corona or lack of legs?!

    Someone was saying on comms that he hadn't yet been properly tested at higher altitudes, could be as simple as that.
    He's also being wastefully using energy like a Russian oligarch.
    Not just today, but how many stages has he put in an all out sprint at the end for little no profit?
    Yeah, it's been a bit like that Giro where Yates seemed to do that in the early stages before blowing up. Still think it may be Covid though.

    Have to say I'm not a fan of the teammates interrupting interviews that seems to have started being a 'thing' this year.
    Orla has just picked up on exactly this, during post stage chat.
    Adam Blythe dismisses it............so it's probably correct.
    LOL
    Pross said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Christ alive.

    Hunger knock, Corona or lack of legs?!

    Someone was saying on comms that he hadn't yet been properly tested at higher altitudes, could be as simple as that.
    He's also being wastefully using energy like a Russian oligarch.
    Not just today, but how many stages has he put in an all out sprint at the end for little no profit?
    Yeah, it's been a bit like that Giro where Yates seemed to do that in the early stages before blowing up. Still think it may be Covid though.

    Have to say I'm not a fan of the teammates interrupting interviews that seems to have started being a 'thing' this year.
    ASO will probably institute a protocol...see it coming
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • bianchi_dave
    bianchi_dave Posts: 933
    Forum today - "Come on Jonas!"
    Forum tomorrow- "Come on Pog!"
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    shirley_basso said:

    Thanks for the reply. So a real waste of energy unless he was going forward to support Vingegaard.

    Tomorrow looks brutal and Pog has told TV he plans to attack!

    Why not ..not going to win staying in third
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Pog will sit in and attack on the ALPe I guess .
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    If he can
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    I don't think Vingegaard taking time today was a shock - 3 minutes yes definitely - but most discussions on here the majority were saying the race wasn't over. When I heard UAE had lost 2 with covid yesterday (turned out to be one) I actually said to my wife (convenient I know) I'd have Vingegaard as slight favourite just because Pog hadn't broken him and late attacks often mean a rider knows they can't attack earlier - and without a team that control you are in trouble.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    edited July 2022
    above_the_cows said:

    OK so who is going to blow up most spectacularly on the Granon in this GC group?

    Well, well, well, well, well...

    Anyway for lack of any cows or horses, have some local sculpture meets sprinkler system.





    Correlation is not causation.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,312
    Made me think how hard or lucky Froome was to achieve 4 in the modern era
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    If roglic is in the mood I would
    rick_chasey said:

    If he can

    If he can
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm

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