TDF 2022:- Stage 5: Lille Métropole – Arenberg Porte du Hainaut, 153.7kms ***Spoilers***

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    RichN95. said:

    I think with Stuyven he'd already committed a fair amount of energy and by the time it became nailed on they wouldn't catch the break he may as well keep working enough to get 6th.

    Bettiol is less easy to explain.


    Someone pointed out that Bettiol didn't reduce the gap to the break by a single second. I haven't checked myself. Sometimes people riding on the front are just getting in the way.
    That was the first secteur he led, quite early on. He was absolutely hammering it later.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Watched the ITV highlights - seems they had to miss half the fun judging by the thread.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    RichN95. said:

    Pross said:

    Have EF given Bettiol a proper kicking outside the team bus yet?

    I'm guessing him and Stuyven will be announcing a move to UAE after the Tour.
    Stuyven? Nowt wrong with his ride today. Only after the stage, Trek don't have a GC rider. Pogacar would have gifted it

    And when it became clear that they weren't going to get to the breakaway he stopped working, the gap grew and the peloton almost got back to them.
    He was leading the pair for most of the final Kms when it was clear they weren't going to compete for the win.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    edited July 2022
    RichN95. said:

    I think with Stuyven he'd already committed a fair amount of energy and by the time it became nailed on they wouldn't catch the break he may as well keep working enough to get 6th.

    Bettiol is less easy to explain.


    Someone pointed out that Bettiol didn't reduce the gap to the break by a single second. I haven't checked myself. Sometimes people riding on the front are just getting in the way.
    That was Bettiol's first go on the front.

    The second time is really difficult to explain. Can't have helped Powless' GC position.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    Points for Israel Premier Tech in their relegation fight too - Clarke's a scoring rider for them.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    Re the haybale crash, apparently the moto in front just clipped it and moved it into the road
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    MattFalle said:

    RichN95. said:

    Jumbo and ineos have to take a pop at UAE here ..too good a opportunity


    I can't see Ineos with Ganna, Van Baarle, Rowe and Thomas quietly following wheels
    And TP. I'm assuming his name wasn't mentioned in case it summoned the troll. Put in a decent TT, so he's clearly got some form.
    his name hasn't been mentioned anywhere by anyone because he's out of his depth.

    soz.
    https://youtu.be/Ft5KtV2o0bw
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698

    Daniel Oss withdraws - broken bone in his neck (!)

    Will be out for a few weeks at least.


    Any news on the spectator - the screenshots of that crash at the point of impact look even worse than the video.
    He looked like a big lad, we tend to come out of these things ok...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    I'm assuming UAE will be stronger on mountainous terrain because at some point you'd think a rival or rivals will get up the road and everyone will look at them to chase.

    Plus they have not done any riding yet
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    ddraver said:

    Daniel Oss withdraws - broken bone in his neck (!)

    Will be out for a few weeks at least.


    Any news on the spectator - the screenshots of that crash at the point of impact look even worse than the video.
    He looked like a big lad, we tend to come out of these things ok...
    It was the woman whose shin Oss barreled straight into that I'd be worried about.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,312

    That was fun. Unless you were riding in it, I suspect.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jIyq5RdSU8

    just terrifying to me. the speed of course but the chaos is amazing seen that close
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,334

    Re the haybale crash, apparently the moto in front just clipped it and moved it into the road

    I did wonder about that at the time - can't remember who was on the front at the time, but there was a bit of gesturing that implied the moto was somehow involved.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655

    Re the haybale crash, apparently the moto in front just clipped it and moved it into the road

    I did wonder about that at the time - can't remember who was on the front at the time, but there was a bit of gesturing that implied the moto was somehow involved.
    Not sure who, but an FDJ just swerved it, with one or two others, think Ewan and Roglic were about 4th 5th wheel
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Catching up on the avondetappe.

    Dumolin, Ten Dam, Thomas Dekker and Terpstra round a table.

    Terpstra - doesn't even watch the stage as he's out doing a track day.

    Terpstra's fairly humourless, until they all round on him, though only to prove he's right after all.

    They like him - that's obvious - but he's certainly no charmer haha.

    Terpstra is quite snotty about the bike handling shown in this stage - Ten Dam tells a story on a training run in Feb where Terpstra insists they go and see a bike builder to see how it all works and what decisions they make to impact handling.

    He did and apparently his bike handling improved.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited July 2022
    Dumoulin explains why he's retired.

    Basically still loves riding the bike but got fed up with all the pressures around it, because that's important to him.

    (sub-text, he's made enough money from it that he doesn't have to).

    Also admits that he is not at the level of the new guys and he ended up over-training to catch up and he just doesn't have it in him.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    Basically is to Dutch Cycling Coverage what Geoffry Boycott is to English Cricket Coverage...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Just incredible balls/lack of judgment to be booked onto the programme to discuss the Tour and then not to watch the stage and then admit it!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    When has not seeing something ever stopped you commenting about it, Rick? ;)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited July 2022
    Incredible balls, obviously 😉