Tour de France Team Selections

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  • ibr17xvii
    ibr17xvii Posts: 1,065
    mrb123 said:

    Surely a major function of a cycling team is to get exposure for the sponsors.

    Cav getting the record would be a bigger story than Jakobsen winning every sprint stage.


    ^^^This^^^
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Sagan will be at the Tour.

  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    edited June 2022
    ibr17xvii said:

    mrb123 said:

    Surely a major function of a cycling team is to get exposure for the sponsors.

    Cav getting the record would be a bigger story than Jakobsen winning every sprint stage.


    ^^^This^^^
    Jakobsen winning a stage after his near death crash in the Tour of Poland a couple of years ago is a big story. Maybe not so much in the English-speaking world, but it is in a lot of Europe.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    No team is final until Friday...
  • neonriver
    neonriver Posts: 228
    No kwiatkowski for Ineos not recovered from a muscle tear. From his Twitter no team announcement yet
  • josame
    josame Posts: 1,162
    edited June 2022
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    It'd be hard not to pick Jakobsen - I'd like to see both go but I think one (Cav) would have to be a riding reserve - there if Jakobsen crashed or got caught out - not convinced Cav is one to surf wheels these days I think he prefers a nice clean leadout with as few risks as possible now.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    daniel_b said:

    I know I am not a master tactician or a team manager, but with no out and out GC contender, why not take 2 sprinters, and try and maximise your number of stage wins?

    For which team is this comment aimed at? Sorry for being a dunce.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Bit gutted JA is ruled out. Always good value.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    Just not the same these days... :(

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    It's not the first time they've been raided, right?
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Bora-Hansgrohe reveal their team through a podcast. Twats.

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    mididoctors said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    On the subject of stage threads, I am going to have very little time when I get back.
    Was wondering if anyone fancies taking on the Danish stages?
    That would give me a chance to make a start on the French stages…..

    I'll do one . But it won't be top quality ...
    Cheers midi, feeling off the hook now 👍

    As long as we get the profile and favourites we're good. Danish cuisine isn't anything to write home about anyway, ryebread is nice but they basically just left the top off a sandwich.
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  • bianchi_dave
    bianchi_dave Posts: 933
    ibr17xvii said:

    mrb123 said:

    Surely a major function of a cycling team is to get exposure for the sponsors.

    Cav getting the record would be a bigger story than Jakobsen winning every sprint stage.


    ^^^This^^^
    This indeed. I really thought if JA wasn't going to make the team, taking Cav and going with 2 sprinters would be a no brainer for LeFevre, to maximise sponsorship exposure. The other thing is, at Cav's age, will he ever get another chance to break the record? Who knows what next year will bring.

    A shame as he's on good form going by yesterday's showing, even though it wasn't a flat out sprint at the end. He worked hard most of the race for the win however.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    Called it... 😥



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  • bianchi_dave
    bianchi_dave Posts: 933
    Bit of a backlash on the QS twitter feed re Cav not being selected. Hopefully LeFevre reads it and may reconsider (wishful thinking!)
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  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,756
    Cav is a legend of the sport. I’ve been over in France to see him win stages and I totally get most teams would have taken him to the Tour.

    However if I remove all bias, I don’t see how anyone can dispute the fact that Jakobsen is the fastest sprinter this season. I also think it’s been well known for some time that Jakobsen was going to the Tour this year.

    You can’t take 2 sprinters - you just dilute the strength of your team and Cav/Jakobsen are too similar to cover differing types of finishes. Given the Quickstep are going to want to go for other types of stages, they needed to select a mix of riders to make sure they can compete.

    I’m probably more shocked at Alaphilippe and Senechal not making the team
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Cavendish had very little chance of making the tour team without Jakobson being injured or really off form. But I feel his performance at the giro cemented it. Only winning 1 stage in that sprinting company was poor.
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  • secretsqirrel
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    neonriver said:

    No kwiatkowski for Ineos not recovered from a muscle tear. From his Twitter no team announcement yet

    Always a loss
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    ddraver said:

    Called it... 😥



    Always going to be a disaster going back to BH
    Really weird move that was .
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    It's an interesting conversation isn't it.

    On the one hand, Jakobsen probably has ticked all his prep boxes in the build up to this tour and is the more solid choice. But still, leaving out last year's 4 time stage winner and green jersey would be insane in any other circumstances.

    If Jakobsen misfires Pat Lefevre will have some serious questions to answer. But then, the only person to ask them is...Pat Lefevre.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    I agree with QS not picking Cavendish. Jakobsen has 9 wins this season - he's their top sprinter. There's only five or six sprints, which doesn't merit two sprinters. If you want publicity then taking a punt on Alaphilippe or Evenepoel would do the job.
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  • thejimmymethod
    thejimmymethod Posts: 458
    QS appear to have got plenty of publicity by not taking Cav or Senechel. Lefevre is definitely an all news is good news guy
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    A missed opportunity, I reckon.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,450
    Ineos:

    Castroviejo, Ganna, Martinez, Pidcock, Rowe, Thomas, van Baarle, Yates
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    The original press release referred to "multiple Tour de France stage winner" Adam Yates.

    Even they get them confused.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    thejimmymethod said:

    QS appear to have got plenty of publicity by not taking Cav or Senechel. Lefevre is definitely an all news is good news guy

    If we're talking sponsors, fair play to Deceuninck who got a mention on radio 5live for the Cavendish decision.

  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,610
    andyp said:

    I think Pogacar will be happy with his support.....

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