2022 Pre Season Chat Thread

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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,018
    Pog talking about doing MSR & Flanders.

    Hubba
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,262
    Seriously?


    That’s be amaaazing
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,359
    Don't think he can do anything in MSR. He isn't a good enough descender to attack early on the Poggio and stay away. Winning Flanders seems unlikely, but is definitely interesting.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,018
    m.r.m. said:

    Don't think he can do anything in MSR. He isn't a good enough descender to attack early on the Poggio and stay away. Winning Flanders seems unlikely, but is definitely interesting.

    I had forgotten he was there last year. Finished in the group 2" back in 12th
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,262
    Lad has a massive engine can definitely see him being there or there abouts in Flanders
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,018

    Seriously?


    That’s be amaaazing

    Flanders as prep for Tour cobbles ... but who knows

    TDF, Vuelta, Lombardy, LBL, Tirreno and you'd assume worlds too
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 41,151
    Is the season due to be back to normal this year?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,187
    Pross said:

    Is the season due to be back to normal this year?


    Europe wise, mostly I think.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,463
    Strade Bianchi is the day before Tirreno Adriatico starts, so is likely to have a slightly slimmer field. WvA isn't riding it. MvdP might be a bit undercooked due to his back problems. Bernal could be interested
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,262
    MvdP back problems aren't going away apparently, so it seems likely he'll be undercooked going into the season.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,262
    Hirschi having hip surgery so is out of action till at least March.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    Looking forward to Roubaix being back in the proper slot.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,137
    People are assuming MvdP is going to be riding the start of the season; if he has to miss the spring classics then so be it. I can't help but think riding the Road Worlds & P-R wasn't the brightest idea.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,262
    andyrac said:

    People are assuming MvdP is going to be riding the start of the season; if he has to miss the spring classics then so be it. I can't help but think riding the Road Worlds & P-R wasn't the brightest idea.

    Almost won PR so that seems a bit unfair.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,137
    He missed the MTB Worlds at the end of August, and did a race or two before those two races. He then had a rest before prepping for the CX season - then had a training crash, did one race, and retired from another with back problems.

    I always got the feeling he was rushed back.....maybe they've learned their lesson, and he'll have a proper rest, and be back when he's ready, not when they want him back.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,262
    That’s what they’ve said “no training until there is zero pain”
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,179

    Lad has a massive engine can definitely see him being there or there abouts in Flanders

    I know a lot is made of positioning at Flanders, with good reason I think, but it's hard to see who on the UAE roster can actually support Pogacar in that race, with the exception of Trentin. Laengen possibly, as I assume he did that role for Kristoff, but then you are scratching around looking for sacrificial lambs.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,262
    Trentin is fairly major tbf
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,813
    He's an underdog who will just be able to follow the wheels.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,463
    Jumbo core team for the Tour looks pretty savage. Vingegaard will be protected this time though. Add another tractor and a climber?

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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,482
    According to a Cycling News headline Dennis joined Jumbo Visma because Ineos are copying them anyway. I haven't read the story so I don't know how misleading the headline is or isn't.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,187
    edited January 2022
    gsk82 said:

    According to a Cycling News headline Dennis joined Jumbo Visma because Ineos are copying them anyway. I haven't read the story so I don't know how misleading the headline is or isn't.


    That's pretty much what he said. He didn't really elaborate
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,262
    Dumoulin still insisting he wants to ride the Giro GC
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,482

    Dumoulin still insisting he wants to ride the Giro GC

    Is anyone else bothering? The vuelta is going to be stacked this year.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,820
    edited January 2022
    Ffs, just had a post held for approval, again, because I used Tom P's surname?

    Anyway, Tom P said on an episode of GTCC podcast that he would do the Giro this year. Having used La Vuelta last year as a 3 week GT taster?

    ....see if this one gets blocked... edit, no it didn't. Thought the babyish censorbot had been tuned to accept his surname.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    andyp said:

    Lad has a massive engine can definitely see him being there or there abouts in Flanders

    I know a lot is made of positioning at Flanders, with good reason I think, but it's hard to see who on the UAE roster can actually support Pogacar in that race, with the exception of Trentin. Laengen possibly, as I assume he did that role for Kristoff, but then you are scratching around looking for sacrificial lambs.

    I completely missed that Kristoff had left.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 41,151
    gsk82 said:

    According to a Cycling News headline Dennis joined Jumbo Visma because Ineos are copying them anyway. I haven't read the story so I don't know how misleading the headline is or isn't.

    So they're copying the team that copied them?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 41,151

    Jumbo core team for the Tour looks pretty savage. Vingegaard will be protected this time though. Add another tractor and a climber?

    It seems a bit early to be talking about Tour squads.
  • Pross said:

    Jumbo core team for the Tour looks pretty savage. Vingegaard will be protected this time though. Add another tractor and a climber?

    It seems a bit early to be talking about Tour squads.
    It's too early for Jumbo to even be talking about training: camp cancelled, as they have a Covid outbreak.

    As for Dennis's reason for leaving Ineos: after all these years of taking much stick for bringing "unnecessary" innovation to the sport, all they were doing was copying the Dutch.
    Who would have thought?
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    So he left because Ineos were copying Jumbo who were copying Sky.