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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 18,152
    Pog talking about doing MSR & Flanders.

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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,446 Lives Here
    Seriously?


    That’s be amaaazing
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  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,848
    Don't think he can do anything in MSR. He isn't a good enough descender to attack early on the Poggio and stay away. Winning Flanders seems unlikely, but is definitely interesting.
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 18,152
    m.r.m. said:

    Don't think he can do anything in MSR. He isn't a good enough descender to attack early on the Poggio and stay away. Winning Flanders seems unlikely, but is definitely interesting.

    I had forgotten he was there last year. Finished in the group 2" back in 12th
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,446 Lives Here
    Lad has a massive engine can definitely see him being there or there abouts in Flanders
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 18,152
    rick_chasey said:

    Seriously?


    That’s be amaaazing

    Flanders as prep for Tour cobbles ... but who knows

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  • ProssPross Posts: 34,868
    Is the season due to be back to normal this year?
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,463
    Pross said:

    Is the season due to be back to normal this year?


    Europe wise, mostly I think.
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  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,940
    Strade Bianchi is the day before Tirreno Adriatico starts, so is likely to have a slightly slimmer field. WvA isn't riding it. MvdP might be a bit undercooked due to his back problems. Bernal could be interested
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,446 Lives Here
    MvdP back problems aren't going away apparently, so it seems likely he'll be undercooked going into the season.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,446 Lives Here
    Hirschi having hip surgery so is out of action till at least March.
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  • yorkshirerawyorkshireraw Posts: 1,614
    Looking forward to Roubaix being back in the proper slot.
  • andyracandyrac Posts: 937
    People are assuming MvdP is going to be riding the start of the season; if he has to miss the spring classics then so be it. I can't help but think riding the Road Worlds & P-R wasn't the brightest idea.

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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,446 Lives Here
    andyrac said:

    People are assuming MvdP is going to be riding the start of the season; if he has to miss the spring classics then so be it. I can't help but think riding the Road Worlds & P-R wasn't the brightest idea.

    Almost won PR so that seems a bit unfair.
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  • andyracandyrac Posts: 937
    He missed the MTB Worlds at the end of August, and did a race or two before those two races. He then had a rest before prepping for the CX season - then had a training crash, did one race, and retired from another with back problems.

    I always got the feeling he was rushed back.....maybe they've learned their lesson, and he'll have a proper rest, and be back when he's ready, not when they want him back.

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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,446 Lives Here
    That’s what they’ve said “no training until there is zero pain”
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  • andypandyp Posts: 9,163
    rick_chasey said:

    Lad has a massive engine can definitely see him being there or there abouts in Flanders

    I know a lot is made of positioning at Flanders, with good reason I think, but it's hard to see who on the UAE roster can actually support Pogacar in that race, with the exception of Trentin. Laengen possibly, as I assume he did that role for Kristoff, but then you are scratching around looking for sacrificial lambs.

  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,446 Lives Here
    Trentin is fairly major tbf
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  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 17,755
    He's an underdog who will just be able to follow the wheels.
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,940
    Jumbo core team for the Tour looks pretty savage. Vingegaard will be protected this time though. Add another tractor and a climber?

    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

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  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 3,231
    According to a Cycling News headline Dennis joined Jumbo Visma because Ineos are copying them anyway. I haven't read the story so I don't know how misleading the headline is or isn't.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,463
    edited January 2022
    gsk82 said:

    According to a Cycling News headline Dennis joined Jumbo Visma because Ineos are copying them anyway. I haven't read the story so I don't know how misleading the headline is or isn't.


    That's pretty much what he said. He didn't really elaborate
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,446 Lives Here
    Dumoulin still insisting he wants to ride the Giro GC
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  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 3,231
    rick_chasey said:

    Dumoulin still insisting he wants to ride the Giro GC

    Is anyone else bothering? The vuelta is going to be stacked this year.
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  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 11,218
    edited January 2022
    Ffs, just had a post held for approval, again, because I used Tom P's surname?

    Anyway, Tom P said on an episode of GTCC podcast that he would do the Giro this year. Having used La Vuelta last year as a 3 week GT taster?

    ....see if this one gets blocked... edit, no it didn't. Thought the babyish censorbot had been tuned to accept his surname.
  • yorkshirerawyorkshireraw Posts: 1,614
    andyp said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Lad has a massive engine can definitely see him being there or there abouts in Flanders

    I know a lot is made of positioning at Flanders, with good reason I think, but it's hard to see who on the UAE roster can actually support Pogacar in that race, with the exception of Trentin. Laengen possibly, as I assume he did that role for Kristoff, but then you are scratching around looking for sacrificial lambs.

    I completely missed that Kristoff had left.
  • ProssPross Posts: 34,868
    gsk82 said:

    According to a Cycling News headline Dennis joined Jumbo Visma because Ineos are copying them anyway. I haven't read the story so I don't know how misleading the headline is or isn't.

    So they're copying the team that copied them?
  • ProssPross Posts: 34,868
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Jumbo core team for the Tour looks pretty savage. Vingegaard will be protected this time though. Add another tractor and a climber?

    It seems a bit early to be talking about Tour squads.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 20,381
    Pross said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Jumbo core team for the Tour looks pretty savage. Vingegaard will be protected this time though. Add another tractor and a climber?

    It seems a bit early to be talking about Tour squads.
    It's too early for Jumbo to even be talking about training: camp cancelled, as they have a Covid outbreak.

    As for Dennis's reason for leaving Ineos: after all these years of taking much stick for bringing "unnecessary" innovation to the sport, all they were doing was copying the Dutch.
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  • webboowebboo Posts: 5,012
    So he left because Ineos were copying Jumbo who were copying Sky.
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