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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah could be. Reality is, with both congestion and traffic lights the time savings are really marginal.

    Depends where you drive. You are as always city centric, but we don't all live and drive there, do we?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Stevo_666 said:

    webboo said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    webboo said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Just showing yourself up as a bad driver tbh

    Remember folks, doesn't matter what the subject is, Rick knows better :D
    Hmmmm Shirley this is the kettle calling the pan grimeyarse :D
    At least I don't make sweeping assumptions and call people morons because they disagree with me :) Good sign of a p1$$ poor debater if you ask me.

    Anyway, thanks for your valuable contribution ;)
    You should taken the industrial strength pain killers, you might not be so 😡
    I dunno, you go to the trouble of thanking someone....it was a valuable contribution by your standards ;)
    Sorry rick.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    webboo said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    webboo said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    webboo said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Just showing yourself up as a bad driver tbh

    Remember folks, doesn't matter what the subject is, Rick knows better :D
    Hmmmm Shirley this is the kettle calling the pan grimeyarse :D
    At least I don't make sweeping assumptions and call people morons because they disagree with me :) Good sign of a p1$$ poor debater if you ask me.

    Anyway, thanks for your valuable contribution ;)
    You should taken the industrial strength pain killers, you might not be so 😡
    I dunno, you go to the trouble of thanking someone....it was a valuable contribution by your standards ;)
    Sorry rick.
    Thanks again :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,346
    It's a long report, but skipping to the summary:

    7.2. To what extent do drivers comply with the limit?
    Evidence from the journey speed analysis shows that following implementation, 47% of drivers in residential areas and 65% of drivers in city centre areas (equating to 51% across both categories) complied with the new 20mph limit, travelling at speeds of less than 20mph. Whilst a substantial proportion are exceeding the limit, the majority are travelling less than 24mph (i.e. at speeds close to 20mph): 70% in residential areas and 85% in city centre areas. The nature of the roads where the limits have been introduced means that lower speeds were already ‘selfenforced’. Reducing the speed limit to 20mph has helped reinforce this process. There are now slightly
    more drivers travelling at speeds of less than 24mph (+5 percentage points in residential areas, and +7 percentage points in city centre areas), suggesting faster drivers have slowed down.

    7.3. How has the profile of speeds changed?
    The journey speed analysis shows that the median speed has fallen by 0.7mph in residential areas and0.9mph in city centre areas. Faster drivers have reduced their speed more, with the 85th percentile falling by -1.1mph in residential areas and by -1.6mph in city centre areas, based on journey speed data. This is a key finding, as other research shows that higher speeds are associated with increased safety risk
    (more collisions, increased severity, perceptions that the environment is not safe for vulnerable users). The overall change in speeds is greater where speeds were faster before. The median speed fell by -1.3mph on residential roads with a before speed of more than 24mph; and by -1.1mph on ‘important local which typically had higher before speeds. The results suggest that road characteristics have a much larger impact on the speeds that drivers choose to adopt than whether the road has a 30mph or 20mph limit. The differences in speed between the different road categories are far larger than the changes brought about by lowering the speed limit.
    Bigger changes were recorded at individual spot speed sites, with the change in mean speed varying from -7.2mph (reduction) to +4.3mph (increase); and the change in 85th percentile speeds varying from -9.0mph (decrease) to +7.6mph (increase).
    The reductions in average speed in the case study areas are similar to those observed in other research studies, which have reported reductions in average speed of 0.5-2mph (with varying accountability for background trends).

    7.4. What evidence is there of a 20mph limit impact?
    Statistical analysis shows a significant reduction in speeds, relative to similar 30mph comparator areas, for ‘important local roads’ in residential areas and for an aggregation of all road types in city centre areas:
    • The relative change on important local roads in residential areas is estimated at -0.8mph for the median speed and -1.1mph for the 85th percentile speed.
    • The relative change across all roads in city centre area, is estimated at -0.6mph for the median speed, and -1.0mph for the 85th percentile speed.


    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/784905/technical-appendix-2-20mph-gps-journey-speed-analysis-report.pdf
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah could be. Reality is, with both congestion and traffic lights the time savings are really marginal.

    Depends where you drive. You are as always city centric, but we don't all live and drive there, do we?
    Because that’s where the 20 limits are? In built up areas?
    _
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah could be. Reality is, with both congestion and traffic lights the time savings are really marginal.

    Depends where you drive. You are as always city centric, but we don't all live and drive there, do we?
    Because that’s where the 20 limits are? In built up areas?
    Borders Council are proposing 20 limits in all settlements.

    What qualifies as a settlement is unclear, but I drive through pretty tiny villages with 20 limits down there. Makes a huge difference to the residents quality of life, I'd imagine.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah could be. Reality is, with both congestion and traffic lights the time savings are really marginal.

    Depends where you drive. You are as always city centric, but we don't all live and drive there, do we?
    Because that’s where the 20 limits are? In built up areas?
    Not all. And far from all are appropriate or they wouldn't be so widely ignored by non Sheeple. As mentioned above.

    Your talent for turning a thread about cars which are fun into boring drivel about how everyone needs to be saved from themselves by driving very slowly is immense.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    Anyone seen the new hybrid C63S AMG? Looks like a hybrid I might not be embarrassed to be seen in.
    https://evo.co.uk/mercedes/c63-s-saloon/203167/new-mercedes-amg-c63-s-e-performance-revealed-with-670bhp-hybrid



    A bit porky at over 2 tonnes due that battery and a crying shame the big V8 is no more, but 670bhp and 1,000nm of torque isn't too shabby. Wonder how it handles?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    Stevo_666 said:

    Anyone seen the new hybrid C63S AMG? Looks like a hybrid I might not be embarrassed to be seen in.
    https://evo.co.uk/mercedes/c63-s-saloon/203167/new-mercedes-amg-c63-s-e-performance-revealed-with-670bhp-hybrid



    A bit porky at over 2 tonnes due that battery and a crying shame the big V8 is no more, but 670bhp and 1,000nm of torque isn't too shabby. Wonder how it handles?

    It'll be heavy, so like a hovercraft.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Stevo_666 said:

    Anyone seen the new hybrid C63S AMG? Looks like a hybrid I might not be embarrassed to be seen in.
    https://evo.co.uk/mercedes/c63-s-saloon/203167/new-mercedes-amg-c63-s-e-performance-revealed-with-670bhp-hybrid



    A bit porky at over 2 tonnes due that battery and a crying shame the big V8 is no more, but 670bhp and 1,000nm of torque isn't too shabby. Wonder how it handles?

    1,000 nm should provide a barrel load of laughs, tbh.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    1000nm is indeed pretty impressive.

    It's very good for a hybrid but I think I'll be hanging onto The Panzer for a while longer. The noise... :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    or go for both in the garage.... Panzer for sunny Sundays, hybrid for communting....
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    MattFalle said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Anyone seen the new hybrid C63S AMG? Looks like a hybrid I might not be embarrassed to be seen in.
    https://evo.co.uk/mercedes/c63-s-saloon/203167/new-mercedes-amg-c63-s-e-performance-revealed-with-670bhp-hybrid



    A bit porky at over 2 tonnes due that battery and a crying shame the big V8 is no more, but 670bhp and 1,000nm of torque isn't too shabby. Wonder how it handles?

    1,000 nm should provide a barrel load of laughs, tbh.
    You will be needing new tyres after every trip to supermarket.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Cars cars. Shakes head. Jeremy Clarkson's Diddly Squat farm shop is that -----> way.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Apparently Tesla have recall a million cars in the US.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    edited September 2022
    webboo said:

    Apparently Tesla have recall a million cars in the US.

    WASHINGTON, Sept 22 (Reuters) - Tesla (TSLA.O) is recalling nearly 1.1 million U.S. vehicles because the window automatic reversal system may not react correctly after detecting an obstruction, increasing the risk of injury.

    The electric vehicle manufacturer told the National Highway Traffic SafetyAdministration (NHTSA) that it would perform an over-the-air software update of the automatic window reversal system. The recall covers some 2017-2022 Model 3, 2020-2021 Model Y, and 2021-2022 Model S and Model X vehicles.
    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-recalls-nearly-11-million-us-vehicles-update-window-reversing-software-2022-09-22/
    Firmware updates are like well incredible...
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    orraloon said:

    Cars cars. Shakes head. Jeremy Clarkson's Diddly Squat farm shop is that -----> way.

    Funnily enough, Clarkson loves AMGs. Nicknamed the old C63 the 'Axe Murderer with Headlights' :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    Ah, C63 black series though.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    focuszing723 said:

    Ah, C63 black series though.

    There was one up for sale at a car auction I went to back in May. Guide price £120k-£145k. Ironically it was white...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,550
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Just showing yourself up as a bad driver tbh

    Remember folks, doesn't matter what the subject is, Rick knows better :D
    I mean seeing as you were just telling someone who designs roads for a living that you knew better than them, I think that's only fair. 🙂
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited October 2022


    $100yards later and not much to show for it
    _
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    edited October 2022
    rick_chasey said:



    $100(B) later and not much to show for it

    Interesting. I liked this part.

    " In 2017, Levandowski founded a religion called the Way of the Future, centered on the idea that AI was becoming downright godlike."

    Sounds like we have a disciple on here. 😉
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    They could come in quite handy for getting you back home from the pub on an evening.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,796
    Audi 100 Coupe S

    Just saw one of these today on my commute. My uncle had one back in the day. Lovely car. We had a crash in it though. It was an automatic and it jumped out of gear going up the M6 so we got rear-ended by a car behind. My aunt was driving with me, my sis, my mum and my cousin. I was about 8 years old. Quite scary. Cops and ambulances etc. I recall the cops took a dim view of the box of 1970's jizz -mags my uncle had in the boot at the time!



    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    photonic69 said:

    ...I recall the cops took a dim view of the box of 1970's censored -mags my uncle had in the boot at the time!

    Were they "Turning Japanese" or did they simply "confiscate" them? 🤣
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,796
    pblakeney said:

    photonic69 said:

    ...I recall the cops took a dim view of the box of 1970's censored -mags my uncle had in the boot at the time!

    Were they "Turning Japanese" or did they simply "confiscate" them? 🤣
    I recall him being pee'd off cos he didn't get them back!!


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    edited October 2022
    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:



    $100(B) later and not much to show for it

    Interesting. I liked this part.

    " In 2017, Levandowski founded a religion called the Way of the Future, centered on the idea that AI was becoming downright godlike."

    Sounds like we have a disciple on here. 😉
    You are sat there having typed that into a keyboard and now your thoughts can be read around the world. So what's that, say eighty years to evolve to this, from the first basic computer?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    focuszing723 said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:



    $100(B) later and not much to show for it

    Interesting. I liked this part.

    " In 2017, Levandowski founded a religion called the Way of the Future, centered on the idea that AI was becoming downright godlike."

    Sounds like we have a disciple on here. 😉
    You are sat there having typed that into a keyboard and now your thoughts can be read around the world. So what's that, say eighty years to evolve to this, from the first basic computer?
    Yes. And.....
    Scratch that, I'm not interested.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    pblakeney said:

    focuszing723 said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:



    $100(B) later and not much to show for it

    Interesting. I liked this part.

    " In 2017, Levandowski founded a religion called the Way of the Future, centered on the idea that AI was becoming downright godlike."

    Sounds like we have a disciple on here. 😉
    You are sat there having typed that into a keyboard and now your thoughts can be read around the world. So what's that, say eighty years to evolve to this, from the first basic computer?
    Yes. And.....
    Scratch that, I'm not interested.
    How quickly technology has evolved is the obvious answer, which you clearly take for granted.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    edited October 2022
    focuszing723 said:

    pblakeney said:

    focuszing723 said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:



    $100(B) later and not much to show for it

    Interesting. I liked this part.

    " In 2017, Levandowski founded a religion called the Way of the Future, centered on the idea that AI was becoming downright godlike."

    Sounds like we have a disciple on here. 😉
    You are sat there having typed that into a keyboard and now your thoughts can be read around the world. So what's that, say eighty years to evolve to this, from the first basic computer?
    Yes. And.....
    Scratch that, I'm not interested.
    How quickly technology has evolved is the obvious answer, which you clearly take for granted.
    I don't take it for granted, in fact I'm very grateful. However I believe your faith in the religion of AI to be as misplaced as autonomous vehicles.

    Nice that the hat fits! 🤣
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.

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