Centennial Road World Championships, Flanders - 19-26 September 2021 *SPOILERS*

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    ddraver said:

    Pross said:

    Pidcock realised he couldn't cover everything himself and so seemed to opt for following those two.

    Hard habit to break when you've done it your whole career ;)
    Whole career? He's 22. 🤣
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    edited September 2021
    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    ddraver said:

    Maybe Wout van Aert will stop complaining about coming second now...

    He looked absolutely gutted...
    Adam Blythe's not impressed with how he races.
    I'm on BBC, what was the gist?
    He said that WvA is too willing to lose rather than going for it and risk dragging others with him. Said he needs to attack more.
    People used to criticise Sagan for the opposite and towing others around.

    I don't think he had it in his legs today though, never looked like the strongest rider which is unusual. Same with MvdP. Unfortunately Pidcock realised he couldn't cover everything himself and so seemed to opt for following those two.
    This April wva was getting criticised on here for doing too much work in small groups because he was getting beaten.

    I think it's a it different when it's the last 30km of the worlds and alaphillippe is attacking. He was going then going again, so if you can, you need to go with him then go again. If you don't/can't, you don't deserve to win.

    What a ride by alaphillippe.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    pblakeney said:

    ddraver said:

    Pross said:

    Pidcock realised he couldn't cover everything himself and so seemed to opt for following those two.

    Hard habit to break when you've done it your whole career ;)
    Whole career? He's 22. 🤣

    But he's been a pro for almost eight months now.
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  • Excellent ride by Pidcock.

    Worth mentioning the Road... well, Everything Worlds* in Scotland are just two years away...

    [* Except cyclo-cross, ironically]
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    ddraver said:

    Maybe Wout van Aert will stop complaining about coming second now...

    He looked absolutely gutted...
    Adam Blythe's not impressed with how he races.
    I'm on BBC, what was the gist?
    He said that WvA is too willing to lose rather than going for it and risk dragging others with him. Said he needs to attack more.
    People used to criticise Sagan for the opposite and towing others around.

    I don't think he had it in his legs today though, never looked like the strongest rider which is unusual. Same with MvdP. Unfortunately Pidcock realised he couldn't cover everything himself and so seemed to opt for following those two.
    Pidcock spent a lot of time at the back of the group. I don't think he had it either today, which is understandable given the nonsense he's spent his summer doing.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    edited September 2021
    He's a mountain biker, not a roadie
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Pidcock will be back. It was his first go, difficult to peak for the Olympics and this so close.

    Flamme Rouge suggesting that Belgium p*ssed away their extra card to play in the finale by burning up Evenepoel just to keep Merckx and the Belgian media happy, when apparently Van Aert just didn't have the legs.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    edited September 2021

    Pidcock will be back. It was his first go

    Second go. He did last year's as there wasn't an u23 race. Still it's probably the best result by a first year pro for a while.

    (I'm now going to spend too long finding out when there was last a better result by a first year pro)
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  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,205
    ddraver said:

    He's a mountain biker, not a roadie

    He's even said it himself...."I was born to mountain bike". ...Which probably annoyed a lot of road fans.....
    All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    RichN95. said:

    Pidcock will be back. It was his first go

    Second go. He did last year's as there wasn't an u23 race. Still it's probably the best result by a first year pro for a while.

    (I'm now going to spend too long finding out when there was last a better result by a first year pro)

    The answer seems to be Piotr Wadecki of Poland who came 6th in 2001
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  • andyrac said:

    ddraver said:

    He's a mountain biker, not a roadie

    He's even said it himself...."I was born to mountain bike". ...Which probably annoyed a lot of road fans.....
    Most people who do mountain biking have to do a day job to support their little hobby.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    edited September 2021
    Not Tom Pidcock tho. He leads the biggest team in the world on the days off between MTB...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    gsk82 said:

    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    ddraver said:

    Maybe Wout van Aert will stop complaining about coming second now...

    He looked absolutely gutted...
    Adam Blythe's not impressed with how he races.
    I'm on BBC, what was the gist?
    He said that WvA is too willing to lose rather than going for it and risk dragging others with him. Said he needs to attack more.
    People used to criticise Sagan for the opposite and towing others around.

    I don't think he had it in his legs today though, never looked like the strongest rider which is unusual. Same with MvdP. Unfortunately Pidcock realised he couldn't cover everything himself and so seemed to opt for following those two.
    Pidcock spent a lot of time at the back of the group. I don't think he had it either today, which is understandable given the nonsense he's spent his summer doing.
    He looked like he had it to me when he nearly closed to the podium group at the end. He also managed to move up from quite a long way back and close the gap on the move that WVA and MvdP got into. I think he was just trying to pick the ones to go with and backed the wrong horses.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    ddraver said:

    Not Tom Pidcock tho. He leads the biggest team in the world on the days off between MTB...


    Talking of which, he's not doing Roubaix next week. Is that right? Maybe a rethink might be in order
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    Loved the race. Suspense was built tremendously towards the end. Alaphilippe with 3 amazing attacks. It's insane how he still had the legs for the third.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    RichN95. said:

    ddraver said:

    Not Tom Pidcock tho. He leads the biggest team in the world on the days off between MTB...


    Talking of which, he's not doing Roubaix next week. Is that right? Maybe a rethink might be in order
    I'm finding it hard to pick a Roubaix favourite based on that race. Which of the likely contenders looked good? The usual five star names looked a bit off colour (Van Aert, VdP, Sagan etc). Maybe Stybar? Question for another thread probably.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited September 2021
    it was an incredible ride, and as ever, Flemish roads make for good racing.

    JA is the hitter's hitter.

    I do sometimes feel with a ride like that, we get all consumed by the tactics in the build up to the finale, but then, in hindsight, it's all an irrelevance when JA actually has legs like that.
  • 6 / 5*s from L'Equipe


  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    I haven't read the 15 pages, but presumably you've all been saying what a good race it was.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,205

    andyrac said:

    ddraver said:

    He's a mountain biker, not a roadie

    He's even said it himself...."I was born to mountain bike". ...Which probably annoyed a lot of road fans.....
    Most people who do mountain biking have to do a day job to support their little hobby.
    As bad as F1 fans dissing on Sportscars & rallying........Not clever!
    All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    I haven't read the 15 pages, but presumably you've all been saying what a good race it was.

    It got quite interesting and then JA made a big attack uphill, got caught, went again and he was just doing his impressive JA massive gear flying through everything and gained 30s in about 10km
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    RichN95. said:

    ddraver said:

    Not Tom Pidcock tho. He leads the biggest team in the world on the days off between MTB...


    Talking of which, he's not doing Roubaix next week. Is that right? Maybe a rethink might be in order
    I kinda just assumed he's won the U23 version already but that might be a bit much even for him
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • andyrac said:

    andyrac said:

    ddraver said:

    He's a mountain biker, not a roadie

    He's even said it himself...."I was born to mountain bike". ...Which probably annoyed a lot of road fans.....
    Most people who do mountain biking have to do a day job to support their little hobby.
    As bad as F1 fans dissing on Sportscars & rallying........Not clever!
    He isn't exactly concentrating mostly on mountain biking, is he? He's earning a really good salary on the road (which might not be his passion, I don't know) and going to do a few mountain bike races. Fair enough, because he's good enough.
  • 6 / 5*s from L'Equipe


    Tell me the winner was French without telling me the winner was French.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    RichN95. said:

    Pidcock will be back. It was his first go

    Second go. He did last year's as there wasn't an u23 race. Still it's probably the best result by a first year pro for a while.

    (I'm now going to spend too long finding out when there was last a better result by a first year pro)
    Lance won it I think ... Maybe his second year tbh
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    edited September 2021
    Pidcock was great .. little out of position at times and didn't realise how much he left in the tank compared to others .... It's a long race .

    JA has amazing endurance . And did nothing while the race was active for so long . Just activating the race at km 100 like that started draining everyone. French stratergy worked
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912

    it was an incredible ride, and as ever, Flemish roads make for good racing.

    JA is the hitter's hitter.

    I do sometimes feel with a ride like that, we get all consumed by the tactics in the build up to the finale, but then, in hindsight, it's all an irrelevance when JA actually has legs like that.

    French activated the attacking . JA finished it off
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Powless was in multiple breaks all day ... Looked over performance there
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    edited September 2021
    Belgiums should have committed to remco and sat in the wheels behind .. Hind sight ... Once they committed to WvA Then the section when the Belgium team ripped the race up and made the final selection was also a mistake ... Just bring the race on mass to the finish late as possible . Belgium team was strong but not that strong
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    bigmat said:


    I'm finding it hard to pick a Roubaix favourite based on that race. Which of the likely contenders looked good? The usual five star names looked a bit off colour (Van Aert, VdP, Sagan etc). Maybe Stybar? Question for another thread probably.

    Van Baarle is an interesting outsider. He consistently makes the top 20, but maybe he's got the form to make the main selection this time.
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