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Centennial Road World Championships, Flanders - 19-26 September 2021 *SPOILERS*

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Yeah, the history of pro winners and rainbow jerseys is 6 years shy, but still...

Thought I'd start this before team selection etc somehow ends up in the SSR thread ;)
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  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 6,532
    GB Teams announced:
    Elite women's road race

    Lizzie Deignan
    Anna Shackley
    Alice Barnes
    Anna Henderson
    Pfeiffer Georgi
    Joss Lowden

    Elite women's TT

    Joss Lowden
    Pfeiffer Georgi

    Elite men's road race

    Tom Pidcock
    Luke Rowe
    Fred Wright
    Jake Stewart
    Connor Swift
    Ben Swift
    Mark Cavendish
    Ethan Hayter

    Elite men's time trial

    Ethan Hayter
    Dan Bigham

    Under-23 men's road race

    Ethan Vernon
    Sam Watson
    Oliver Stockwell
    Robert Donaldson
    Lewis Askey

    Under-23 men's time trial

    Ethan Vernon

    Junior women's road race

    Maddie Leech
    Millie Couzens
    Flora Perkins
    Zoe Bäckstedt

    Junior women's time trial

    Zoe Bäckstedt
    Maddie Leech

    Junior men time trial

    Max Poole
    Finlay Pickering
    Joshua Tarling
    Jack Brough

    Junior men time trial

    Finlay Pickering
    Joshua Tarling

    Mixed team time trial

    Dan Bigham (team leader)
    Alex Dowsett
    John Archibald
    Joss Lowden
    Alice Barnes
    Anna Henderson

  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 11,267
    edited September 2021
    No Hannah Barnes?

    And how many spots do the Elite women's and Men's team actually have?

    I'm assuming it's not everyone they are taking who will get a spot, team of 8 would be great, but it seems unlikely they have qualified for that many places?

    Mixed relay looks interesting.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 27,087
    daniel_b said:

    No Hannah Barnes?

    And how many spots do the Elite women's and Men's team actually have?

    I'm assuming it's not everyone they are taking who will get a spot, team of 8 would be great, but it seems unlikely they have qualified for that many places?

    Mixed relay looks interesting.


    I think that's the full team. Surprisingly GB are ranked 4th in the Men's rankings (12th in the Women's)
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  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 6,532
    I wasn't expecting to see Cav there, but given how lean people comeenting on the ToB said he looked, and the breakaway ride across the Penninies I'd think he has known he was going for a while.

    It'll also be interesting to see how Mr Aero goes in the TT.
  • notquite6footnotquite6foot Posts: 248
    Looking at the men's rankings, GB doesn't have top-tier GC/one-day hitters at Pog/WVA level,* but a big bunch of riders with a wide spread of high-level wins between them. It should also be noted that some of last year's belated results are apparently staying the full 12 months (like Carthy's Vuelta).

    [* Pidcock may be one before long]
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 4,395
    Hayter must be handy in the TT then? Really a very versatile rider it seems.
  • neonriverneonriver Posts: 226
    I can't get my head round Bigham in the ITT. Can't see any result that would justify it. If you think Dowsett has had enough chances at the worlds the Archibald is in good nick and had a 2nd by 1 second only a couple of weeks back. Especially since Bigham DNF the Tour of Britain with a bad back.
  • notquite6footnotquite6foot Posts: 248
    mrb123 said:

    Hayter must be handy in the TT then? Really a very versatile rider it seems.

    He was on for a top 2 or 3 in the Algarve ITT before he crashed (Asgreen closed hard and would have won it regardless). Possible medal contender in a few years if his endurance continues to improve.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 69,760 Lives Here
    Can anyone see past the Belgians?
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 69,760 Lives Here
    edited September 2021



    Men's elite route.
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  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 25,481
    rick_chasey said:

    Can anyone see past the Belgians?

    In the men's RR, strong team: Wout van Aert, Remco Evenepoel, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Tim Declercq, Yves Lampaert, Jasper Stuyven, Dylan Teuns

    But obviously they can be beaten - the Danish team looks pretty much as strong (taken from the Vikings thread): Kasper Asgreen, Magnus Cort, Mikkel Honoré, Michael Valgren, Mads Pedersen, Andreas Kron, Mads Würtz Schmidt, Mikkel Bjerg

    Then there's MVDP came back yesterday, Pidcock was well in the mix in the spring, the reigning champion. The race is a really exciting prospect, which isn't always the case.
  • notquite6footnotquite6foot Posts: 248
    If Pidcock had prepared well, then he'd a contender. He's not looked like doing so since winning the Olympic XC race, Matt Brammeier admits:
    "Tom had quite a big push up to the Olympics and that took quite a bit out of him, emotionally and physically. Going into the Vuelta was an unknown and he’s not worn out. He’s calling and messaging me every day but we just think that he’s not in the right shape to go and nail his hat to the wall and say he wants a win."
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 26,095
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  • ProssPross Posts: 38,834
    notquite6foot said:

    If Pidcock had prepared well, then he'd a contender. He's not looked like doing so since winning the Olympic XC race, Matt Brammeier admits:

    "Tom had quite a big push up to the Olympics and that took quite a bit out of him, emotionally and physically. Going into the Vuelta was an unknown and he’s not worn out. He’s calling and messaging me every day but we just think that he’s not in the right shape to go and nail his hat to the wall and say he wants a win."
    He went well in the one Vuelta stage where he got in the break. Surprised Doull isn't in the team, it looks fairly inexperienced other than Rowe and the Swifts.
  • webboowebboo Posts: 5,859
    Who’s inexperienced in the men’s team.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 27,087
    Pross said:



    He went well in the one Vuelta stage where he got in the break. Surprised Doull isn't in the team, it looks fairly inexperienced other than Rowe and the Swifts.

    I think Cavendish has done a few races
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  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 12,973
    Full lineup for the Vikings. Very strong, likely to give the Belgians something to worry about
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    The full Viking lineup for the Worlds

    Elite rr men

    Kasper Asgreen (Deceuninck - Quick Step)
    Magnus Cort (EF Education - Nippo)
    Mikkel Honoré (Deceuninck - Quick Step)
    Michael Valgren (EF Education - Nippo)
    Mads Pedersen (Trek - Segafredo)
    Andreas Kron (Lotto Soudal)
    Mads Würtz Schmidt (Israel Start-Up Nation)
    Mikkel Bjerg (UAE-Team Emirates)

    Elite TT men
    Mikkel Bjerg (UAE-Team Emirates)
    Kasper Asgreen (Deceuninck - Quick Step)


    Elite rr women

    Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig (FDJ)
    Julie Leth (Ceratizit-WNT)
    Emma Norsgaard (Team Movistar)

    Amalie Dideriksen (Trek-Segafredo)
    Marita Jensen (Team ABC Dame Elite)
    Rebecca Koerner (Team ABC Dame Elite)
    Trine Holmsgaard (Isorex No-Aqua Ladies)

    Elite TT women
    Emma Norsgaard (Team Movistar)
    Rebecca Koerner (Team ABC Dame Elite)

    Mixed TT relay thing
    Mikkel Bjerg (UAE-Team Emirates)
    Magnus Cort (EF Education - Nippo)
    Mathias Norsgaard (Movistar)
    Amalie Dideriksen (Trek-Segafredo)
    Julie Leth (Ceratizit-WNT)
    Emma Norsgaard (Team Movistar)

    U19 rr women
    Ida Krum (Give Cykelklub)
    Laura Auerbach-Lind (Give Cykelklub)
    Solbjørk Anderson (Team RYTGER powered by Cykeltøj-Online.dk)
    Victoria Lund (Team RYTGER powered by Cykeltøj-Online.dk)

    U19 TT women
    Laura Auerbach-Lind (Give Cykelklub)
    Victoria Lund (Team RYTGER powered by Cykeltøj-Online.dk)

    U19 rr men
    Carl-Frederik Bévort (Team ABC Junior)
    Gustav Wang (Team ABC Junior)
    Poul Holten Andersen (Team ABC Junior)
    Simon Dalby (Mascot Workwear)
    Henrik Pedersen (Team NPV Carl Ras Roskilde Junior)

    U19 TT men
    Carl-Frederik Bévort (Team ABC Junior) - DM TT 2021
    Gustav Wang (Team ABC Junior) - DM TT 2019 og 2020

    U23 TT men
    Jacob Hindsgaul (Uno-X Pro Cycling Team)
    Marcus Sander Hansen (BHS - PL Beton Bornholm)
    Sebastian Kolze Changizi (ColoQuick)
    William Blume Levy (ColoQuick)
    Mathias Larsen (Restaurant Suri - Carl Ras)

    U23 rr men
    Johan Price-Pejtersen (Uno-X Pro Cycling Team)
    Adam Holm (BHS - PL Beton Bornholm)
    Marcus Sander Hansen (BHS - PL Beton Bornholm)

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    The Vikings are coming!
  • ProssPross Posts: 38,834
    RichN95. said:

    Pross said:



    He went well in the one Vuelta stage where he got in the break. Surprised Doull isn't in the team, it looks fairly inexperienced other than Rowe and the Swifts.

    I think Cavendish has done a few races
    Somehow missed his name, probably as I wasn't expecting to see it there.
  • yorkshirerawyorkshireraw Posts: 1,628
    kingstongraham said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Can anyone see past the Belgians?

    In the men's RR, strong team: Wout van Aert, Remco Evenepoel, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Tim Declercq, Yves Lampaert, Jasper Stuyven, Dylan Teuns

    But obviously they can be beaten - the Danish team looks pretty much as strong (taken from the Vikings thread): Kasper Asgreen, Magnus Cort, Mikkel Honoré, Michael Valgren, Mads Pedersen, Andreas Kron, Mads Würtz Schmidt, Mikkel Bjerg

    Then there's MVDP came back yesterday, Pidcock was well in the mix in the spring, the reigning champion. The race is a really exciting prospect, which isn't always the case.
    Has Evenepoel ever raced on the cobbles?
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 69,760 Lives Here
    yorkshireraw said:

    kingstongraham said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Can anyone see past the Belgians?

    In the men's RR, strong team: Wout van Aert, Remco Evenepoel, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Tim Declercq, Yves Lampaert, Jasper Stuyven, Dylan Teuns

    But obviously they can be beaten - the Danish team looks pretty much as strong (taken from the Vikings thread): Kasper Asgreen, Magnus Cort, Mikkel Honoré, Michael Valgren, Mads Pedersen, Andreas Kron, Mads Würtz Schmidt, Mikkel Bjerg

    Then there's MVDP came back yesterday, Pidcock was well in the mix in the spring, the reigning champion. The race is a really exciting prospect, which isn't always the case.
    Has Evenepoel ever raced on the cobbles?
    He's from Flanders. He's raced on cobbles.
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  • yorkshirerawyorkshireraw Posts: 1,628
    rick_chasey said:

    yorkshireraw said:

    kingstongraham said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Can anyone see past the Belgians?

    In the men's RR, strong team: Wout van Aert, Remco Evenepoel, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Tim Declercq, Yves Lampaert, Jasper Stuyven, Dylan Teuns

    But obviously they can be beaten - the Danish team looks pretty much as strong (taken from the Vikings thread): Kasper Asgreen, Magnus Cort, Mikkel Honoré, Michael Valgren, Mads Pedersen, Andreas Kron, Mads Würtz Schmidt, Mikkel Bjerg

    Then there's MVDP came back yesterday, Pidcock was well in the mix in the spring, the reigning champion. The race is a really exciting prospect, which isn't always the case.
    Has Evenepoel ever raced on the cobbles?
    He's from Flanders. He's raced on cobbles.
    Fair enough. DQS best chance of having the WC jersey next season do seem to rest away from the Belgian team tho. Can't see Lefevre being happy with Tim D, Remco and Yves helping put the jersey on the back of a Jumbo rider, in a Flanders WCs.

    Assume Senechal will be in the French team supporting Julian A.
  • takethehighroadtakethehighroad Posts: 6,528
    rick_chasey said:

    yorkshireraw said:

    kingstongraham said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Can anyone see past the Belgians?

    In the men's RR, strong team: Wout van Aert, Remco Evenepoel, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Tim Declercq, Yves Lampaert, Jasper Stuyven, Dylan Teuns

    But obviously they can be beaten - the Danish team looks pretty much as strong (taken from the Vikings thread): Kasper Asgreen, Magnus Cort, Mikkel Honoré, Michael Valgren, Mads Pedersen, Andreas Kron, Mads Würtz Schmidt, Mikkel Bjerg

    Then there's MVDP came back yesterday, Pidcock was well in the mix in the spring, the reigning champion. The race is a really exciting prospect, which isn't always the case.
    Has Evenepoel ever raced on the cobbles?
    He's from Flanders. He's raced on cobbles.
    Outside the time limit in Paris Roubaix juniors in 2018 was his last race on cobbles I think
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 25,481

  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 25,481
    takethehighroad said:

    rick_chasey said:

    yorkshireraw said:

    kingstongraham said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Can anyone see past the Belgians?

    In the men's RR, strong team: Wout van Aert, Remco Evenepoel, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Tim Declercq, Yves Lampaert, Jasper Stuyven, Dylan Teuns

    But obviously they can be beaten - the Danish team looks pretty much as strong (taken from the Vikings thread): Kasper Asgreen, Magnus Cort, Mikkel Honoré, Michael Valgren, Mads Pedersen, Andreas Kron, Mads Würtz Schmidt, Mikkel Bjerg

    Then there's MVDP came back yesterday, Pidcock was well in the mix in the spring, the reigning champion. The race is a really exciting prospect, which isn't always the case.
    Has Evenepoel ever raced on the cobbles?
    He's from Flanders. He's raced on cobbles.
    Outside the time limit in Paris Roubaix juniors in 2018 was his last race on cobbles I think
    Do Druivenkoers - Overijse and Brussels Cycling Classic not count?
  • takethehighroadtakethehighroad Posts: 6,528
    Nah, they're not proper cobbles. It's only the Muur x
  • arnufarnuf Posts: 94
    Well good for Remco then, because there will be no proper cobbles in the worlds either.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 18,687
    rick_chasey said:

    Can anyone see past the Belgians?

    Dutch are fairly tall
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 18,687
    Dorset_Boy said:


    Elite men's road race

    Tom Pidcock
    Luke Rowe
    Fred Wright
    Jake Stewart
    Connor Swift
    Ben Swift
    Mark Cavendish
    Ethan Hayter


    Geraint?

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  • carbonclemcarbonclem Posts: 1,487
    edited September 2021
    tailwindhome said:

    Dorset_Boy said:


    Elite men's road race

    Tom Pidcock
    Luke Rowe
    Fred Wright
    Jake Stewart
    Connor Swift
    Ben Swift
    Mark Cavendish
    Ethan Hayter


    Geraint?

    Doing the Italian races. I assume before Lombadia?
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  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 6,532
    Anna vdB won't be defending her TT title.
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