Olympics All Format Spoiler Thread

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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611

    Feel like the Keirin's lost something with the new derny rules. used to love them hurtling around behind the bike, now it seems a bit more pedestrian

    It's not anything remotely like a derny at these games. It's a flat bar electric push bike. At least at Rio it was an electric motorbike.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited August 2021

    Feel like the Keirin's lost something with the new derny rules. used to love them hurtling around behind the bike, now it seems a bit more pedestrian

    Amazingly lightweight women's final, with the few big names present all missing out.
    Reads like an indie film cast.
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  • webboo said:

    As I posted early in this thread in the UK we use the French grading system for sports climbs.

    Yeah - was answering someone's question about why there are so many different grading systems. Different styles of climbing need different information from the grading, basically.
  • Turned on the TV to find Kluge going out the back. Always nice to have some constants in this topsy-turvy world.
  • i LOVE the elimination race
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    webboo said:

    As I posted early in this thread in the UK we use the French grading system for sports climbs.

    Yeah - was answering someone's question about why there are so many different grading systems. Different styles of climbing need different information from the grading, basically.
    However when discussing high graded UK traditional routes for instance an E9 6c people will often say “ It’s about French 8a+ or it’s got a Font 7c crux move”.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,389
    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293

    i LOVE the elimination race

    Would love to have it as an Olympic discipline all on it's own :)
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,041
    Do we know who Carlin is up against in his semi final tomorrow?
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  • neonriver
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    daniel_b said:

    Do we know who Carlin is up against in his semi final tomorrow?

    Harrie Laveyrsen
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611
    edited August 2021
    Gold for Matt Walls in the Omnium

    Kiwi managed to take a lap, making the catch on the last lap of the race to snatch silver from Viviani!
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,389

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
    I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
    I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
    I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    elbowloh said:

    JimD666 said:

    Rather gutted for KJT in the heptathlon. Pulled up with an achilles injury in the 200m, hops to the finish to register a time and then gets DQ's because she left her lane.

    Yes, such a shame for her. To come back and compete after the last injury and be sitting in third was incredible.

    KJD
    DAS
    Adam Gemili

    All out injured. Not good for the athletics team or individuals.
    Dina was back this AM for the really. GB broke the national record. Slight challenge is Jamaica will bring in both Fraser-Price and Thompson-Hear for the final.

    Felt for Gemili as he pulled his hamstring in warm up, although maybe he was right on the edge heading to Tokyo. Fine margins and all that.

    However, those talking him up as medal shot were being rather optimistic. It was going to take 19.7 to get top 3 and he has never looked at that level.

    KJT has had 6 months out.

    The issue for Athletics in the UK is we have no where near the depth of medal chances we had in past times. So there's a lot of focus on a few athletes who, rightly or wrongly, are seen as 'big names'.

    Beneath the headlines the likes of Jodie Williams going sub 50 in the 400 is great, similar the guy who came 7th in the Pole Vault and Nick Miller 6th in the Hammer. Lizzie Bird came 9th in a British Record in the women's 'chase. All good stuff and no more than can probably be asked of them as individuals, but that will go below the radar of most casual viewers.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,389
    edited August 2021

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
    I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
    I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
    Possibly right about the triple jump. And the modern Pentathlon (the what landed gentry do on Sundays competition)

    The jumping over things quickly events possibly have more of a place in athletics. But humans were designed to run around to get anywhere fast. Not running in order to get somewhere less fast, while having a little man following you looking for shadows under both trainers, is akin to having a track cycling event using full sus 29ers with the UCI checking to ensure that no one has the forks locked out.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    Athletics equivalent of breastroke. Do this thing but don't do it the fastest way.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718

    Feel like the Keirin's lost something with the new derny rules. used to love them hurtling around behind the bike, now it seems a bit more pedestrian

    It's the way you don't get the engine pitch rising and rising, then BANG! Crowd explodes GO! imo.

    Was like having a music crescendo but...less lame that that would be
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,389

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    Athletics equivalent of breastroke. Do this thing but don't do it the fastest way.
    Well you know you can't have too many swimming medals now can you? Hiw else would Australia get high up in the medals table?
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
    I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
    I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
    I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,389

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
    I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
    I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
    I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
    It's a water sport?

    Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
    I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
    I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.


    Different ways to swim a set distance also in that category ?
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    ddraver said:

    Some Anglo-Oranje bitchyness....

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/team-gb-netherlands-hockey-tokyo-2020-b1896727.html

    Dutchies rather won that battle tho

    Dear me. Imagine winning and still having them living rent-free in your heads like that.

    Wearied flex to come out with that and accuse the GB team of arrogance.

    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Any trackies can explain why Nicholas Paul didn't get the decision in that third sprint?

    Read someone on twitter say the encroachment rule doesn't apply until last 200 - I had thought it was when the sprint has opened ?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262

    Any trackies can explain why Nicholas Paul didn't get the decision in that third sprint?

    Read someone on twitter say the encroachment rule doesn't apply until last 200 - I had thought it was when the sprint has opened ?


    While that’s true the other rider still impeded him surely
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  • neonriver
    neonriver Posts: 228
    edited August 2021

    Any trackies can explain why Nicholas Paul didn't get the decision in that third sprint?

    Read someone on twitter say the encroachment rule doesn't apply until last 200 - I had thought it was when the sprint has opened ?

    Because the comms are useless, thats the exact same thing Katy Marchant get relegated for in the keirin yesterday

    Edit - your right its when the sprint opens not last 200m
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,041
    neonriver said:

    daniel_b said:

    Do we know who Carlin is up against in his semi final tomorrow?

    Harrie Laveyrsen
    That's a shame, suspect if he is able to win the semi final he won't have enough in his legs to take gold. Hopefully I am wrong, and perhaps JH might be taken to 3.
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  • elbowloh said:

    JimD666 said:

    Rather gutted for KJT in the heptathlon. Pulled up with an achilles injury in the 200m, hops to the finish to register a time and then gets DQ's because she left her lane.

    Yes, such a shame for her. To come back and compete after the last injury and be sitting in third was incredible.

    KJD
    DAS
    Adam Gemili

    All out injured. Not good for the athletics team or individuals.
    Dina was back this AM for the really. GB broke the national record. Slight challenge is Jamaica will bring in both Fraser-Price and Thompson-Hear for the final.

    Felt for Gemili as he pulled his hamstring in warm up, although maybe he was right on the edge heading to Tokyo. Fine margins and all that.

    However, those talking him up as medal shot were being rather optimistic. It was going to take 19.7 to get top 3 and he has never looked at that level.

    KJT has had 6 months out.

    The issue for Athletics in the UK is we have no where near the depth of medal chances we had in past times. So there's a lot of focus on a few athletes who, rightly or wrongly, are seen as 'big names'.

    Beneath the headlines the likes of Jodie Williams going sub 50 in the 400 is great, similar the guy who came 7th in the Pole Vault and Nick Miller 6th in the Hammer. Lizzie Bird came 9th in a British Record in the women's 'chase. All good stuff and no more than can probably be asked of them as individuals, but that will go below the radar of most casual viewers.
    I have longtime felt that British athletics's Olympic performances have been the best argument against British cycling ( and of course by default, Skineos) having this magical performance enhancing substance that somehow propels them around a track faster than anybody else.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
    I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
    I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
    I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
    It's a water sport?

    Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
    Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,389

    Why is Olympic walking still a thing?

    The world record for the 50km walk is 3 hour marathon pace. Crazy.
    I know as an athletic endeavour it is super human, but that's not the point. I bet if you made running backwards an Olympic event you would see some pretty amazing times.
    I class it with triple jump as an event that doesn't make much sense to be there. Maybe 400m hurdles too.
    I'm not sure that many sports make sense if viewed in complete isolation. I never get the point of rowing given how slowly they go relative people on the bank.
    It's a water sport?

    Objectively, racing backwards doesn't seem all that sensible though, I agree. Just ask the bow of the GB IV.
    Why race in the water when you can walk by the side? If they were racing on a sea to some island then I could just about understand, but as it is, it is very inefficient way of making progress. A bit like hopping the 100m.
    Um, pretty sure it's faster to use a boat unless there's a tow path. Just ask someone who lives in the Amazon.